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mahatmakanejeeves

(56,897 posts)
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:22 AM Apr 2021

Apple will spend $1 billion for 3,000-employee campus in Raleigh

Source: WFMY, Greensboro NC

BUSINESS

Apple will spend $1 billion for 3,000-employee campus in Raleigh

Raleigh officials confirmed Apple announced its decision to build a new campus in Wake County.

Author: Chris Venzon (WFMY News2)
Published: 7:56 AM EDT April 26, 2021
Updated: 11:17 AM EDT April 26, 2021

RALEIGH, N.C. -- Apple is coming to Raleigh. State officials confirmed Monday, the tech giant plans on building a campus in the Research Triangle. ... The Apple campus is expected to bring 3,000 jobs and $1 billion to North Carolina. This will be Apple's first entirely new U.S. campus in more than 20 years and signifies a long-term investment in the state and region.

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The jobs would pay an average of $187,000 a year starting in 2023, according to the commerce department. ... The announcement comes the day Cooper plans to hold his 'State of the State' address at 7 p.m.

A spokesperson with North Carolina A&T said the school is included in Apple's planned investments of $100 million to support schools in the state and a $110 million investment in infrastructure to support enhancing broadband connectivity.

"With 3,000 proposed jobs in engineering, 5G technology graduates in the school's STEM programs are poised to be a significant human resource and talent component for the new campus," the spokesperson said.

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Read more: https://www.wfmynews2.com/article/money/business/apple-campus-raleigh-north-carolina/83-0286a052-dbf6-435f-9a28-9b0b04eb095f?ref=exit-recirc



"The jobs would pay an average of $187,000 a year starting in 2023, according to the commerce department."

Full disclosure: I own shares of Apple.
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Apple will spend $1 billion for 3,000-employee campus in Raleigh (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2021 OP
bailing the state that built u. so long and dont let the door hit u in the rump. AllaN01Bear Apr 2021 #1
I don't think they are bailing on California USAFRetired_Liberal Apr 2021 #3
Exactly. This is a good thing. Dream Girl Apr 2021 #14
There is no mention of closing the CA location Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #6
Um, are you aware of the size of the new Silicon Valley campus Apple has built? brooklynite Apr 2021 #32
Turning NC Blue 4Q2u2 Apr 2021 #2
Musk's move into Texas Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #8
Mostly going to 4Q2u2 Apr 2021 #18
Anyone capable of dangerous Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #21
Left-leaning engineers still hire right wing plumbers. High paying jobs rainin Apr 2021 #23
YES! And next SC. joetheman Apr 2021 #34
Libertarian anti union Musk? ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2021 #36
Apple should disengage from China RussBLib Apr 2021 #4
Building factories in the US is not feasible... targetpractice Apr 2021 #7
Gave it up to Japan then S Korea then China I believe. LiberalArkie Apr 2021 #12
Whoopee. 2naSalit Apr 2021 #5
Have you thought of just buying an older/used one from like craigslist? Hugh_Lebowski Apr 2021 #9
You were in my head just now, Hugh_Lebowski n/t targetpractice Apr 2021 #11
Highly unusual story. targetpractice Apr 2021 #10
As has been said, this is an unusual story. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2021 #15
There's a... 2naSalit Apr 2021 #27
Call the bookstore or look at their website. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2021 #30
Thanks, I'm looking for their info... 2naSalit Apr 2021 #31
I've had incredible customer service from Apple over the past 20+ years. Elwood P Dowd Apr 2021 #17
a while back i bought a dell. ( big mistake) 4 hard drive crashes and no tec suppourt AllaN01Bear Apr 2021 #22
That's what my sister tells me... 2naSalit Apr 2021 #28
Me neither, since early 80's. DENVERPOPS Apr 2021 #29
The last time I bought a Mac, I went to Best Buy jmowreader Apr 2021 #35
Apple supporting Red state maliaSmith Apr 2021 #13
One hopes that NC residents weigh in and keep us abreast of how things are going in NC these days. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2021 #16
Apple's CEO, Tim Cook, is gay and has been promoting LGBT and women's rights for years. Elwood P Dowd Apr 2021 #19
Apple's Move 4Q2u2 Apr 2021 #20
This is a huge win for NC mnhtnbb Apr 2021 #24
High Tech jobs means racial and cultural diversity. Yavin4 Apr 2021 #25
That's the sound of NC shooting themselves in the foot. SpankMe Apr 2021 #26
NC with a Democratic Governor and AG is a "repressive red State"? brooklynite Apr 2021 #33
Do you know anything about NC? moose65 Apr 2021 #37

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
3. I don't think they are bailing on California
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:31 AM
Apr 2021

This is an expansion....which is good politics wise as it moves or attracts liberal professionals to a state trending purple

Miguelito Loveless

(4,438 posts)
6. There is no mention of closing the CA location
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:49 AM
Apr 2021

so I don't understand the hostility.

Also, as Apple has a green power mandate, that means more pressure on state to install more renewable energy.

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
2. Turning NC Blue
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:30 AM
Apr 2021

Just like Musk will do in Texas.
Reds selling themselves out for job that most will never get.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,438 posts)
8. Musk's move into Texas
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:53 AM
Apr 2021

creates an existentialist dilemma for the oil industry/power. Texas prides itself on high tech jobs, and Tesla brings them by the bushel. Meanwhile, cybertrucks show up in the middle of "pickup truck country", and Tesla's power division starts competing with Texas' incompetent electric utilities.

SpaceX also has a huge presence in Texas, and it was just awarded the project to take us back to the moon.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,438 posts)
21. Anyone capable of dangerous
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:59 PM
Apr 2021

jobs like working as a rigger in an oil field, can handle installing/servicing wind turbines, solar panels, and working assembly lines at an auto plant, regardless of ideology. Whether their ideology will allow them to take such jobs is a different issue.

 

joetheman

(1,450 posts)
34. YES! And next SC.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 04:09 PM
Apr 2021

Paying back the minorities who have been left out of the tech economy in large scale.

RussBLib

(8,985 posts)
4. Apple should disengage from China
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:31 AM
Apr 2021

Sure, it's a huge market, but you have to kowtow to the Chinese government.

Build the factories in America, pay good wages, and yes, the products will cost more, but maybe we can get over this, "which product is cheapest" hangup we have been on.

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
7. Building factories in the US is not feasible...
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:51 AM
Apr 2021

... Not just because wages are higher... But, most practically... The ENTIRE supply chain for third party components in Apple products is in Asia (e.g., screens, chips, etc.) There is no way that Apple could replicate the supply chain in the US... At least not in the near future.

The US gave up semi-conductor manufacturing to Asia many years ago. Not a good move, but that's what happened.

LiberalArkie

(15,686 posts)
12. Gave it up to Japan then S Korea then China I believe.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:16 PM
Apr 2021

I believe all the stuff is produced in and around Shenzhen now. So it is very easy to move parts and manufacturing around.

2naSalit

(86,061 posts)
5. Whoopee.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:38 AM
Apr 2021

I hate to tell ya this but actually not. I have been attempting to purchase an Apple laptop for the past45 days and all I get is BS and NO customer service no matter where I go. Seems I'm not allowed to buy one unless I purchase it online which is not going to happen since I don;t have a credit card that I would post online. I have been to three, that's all there is within a hundred miles of me, shops to make a purchase through them and was thwarted by hundreds of dollars in mark-ups and alleged warranties.

So this has spoiled my desire to spend a minimum of &1700 for the device I wanted with no customer service, nobody can tell me about the apps I wanted or anything other than the payment plan at that location and the fact that I can't have it unless I order it online. What a crock of poo. And that's beside the point that I hate their hardware and don't really care for their other products, but I wanted a certain program and it's only available with their hardware so i was willing to overlook that for the sake of having the program I wanted and spend a couple thousand dollars for it.

Well not after the BS run around I have been experiencing and that is holding up a project I need to work on.

So screw Apple and their overpriced products and no customer service of any kind.

I'll have to put a different set up together to get my project done, should have ignored Apple in the first place for all the aggravation it has brought me. Such a crock of poo.





 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
9. Have you thought of just buying an older/used one from like craigslist?
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:56 AM
Apr 2021

I don't even understand how one can like ... function in life these days ... w/o using a credit card/debit card online.

Do you have paypal or venmo or something like that?

Literally there's like $500,000,000,000 a year spent on the internet. It's just as secure as using a credit card in a store, if not more so. It's extremely important to many many businesses that the process is safe, and most banks and CC issuers are good at detecting fraud, and about letting you off w/o paying if you are a victim of identity theft.

Just sayin'

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
10. Highly unusual story.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:59 AM
Apr 2021

You can purchase a Mac in the store if you want, but custom builds and normal stock is limited in stores due to the pandemic.

Are. you trying to pay cash? Just sayin'... If you are involved in technology, I don't understand how you make it without giving a credit card for online purchases. Maybe get a Venmo or Cash App card and putting money there for specifically online purchases.

Also, AppleCare+ is great when needed, but you don't need to decide at purchase. And, Apple's customer support is crazy awesome.

mahatmakanejeeves

(56,897 posts)
15. As has been said, this is an unusual story.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:28 PM
Apr 2021

You probably get more protection shopping online with a credit card than you do with any other form of payment. If you detect an unauthorized use of your card, you can shut it down right away, and losses are limited, if any.

Are you near any universities? Their bookstores more than likely carry Apple products.

Again, I own Apple stock, but I'm trying to remain neutral.

2naSalit

(86,061 posts)
27. There's a...
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 02:52 PM
Apr 2021

university over in the next county, where I had been shopping, and I hadn't thought about the bookstore.

I might try that. I function on a debit card and that's really all I usually need. I bought a car for cash a few years ago that was a few times more than my cash ATM limit so I went to half the ATMs in the county seat for a couple days maxing out my cash limit. It was kind of fun.

I expected to be able to get one from Costco but was told at the store that I had to order it online. I don't care to buy things online for that amount of $$ so I try to find other routes. I was told, at the small store up in town, that he would take a hit if he sold me what I had ordered through him. As we were going through the order wizard, it showed that they are not offering some of their products anymore and mine was on the margin, a MacBook Pro, real simple with the next step up memory... and he said that they had restrictions making it a cost for him to sell it to me and that I had to go to a big box store which puts me back at Costco from whom I would have ordered if they had helped me.

It also seems that everything from demos of programs and option to get a hands on trial at at store is not an option. Every time I touched a demo I was talked into going somewhere else, even when I told them I was ready to buy the damned thing right now. Nobody has them in stock because they say it costs too much to have them.

SMH.

For smaller purchases I go get a gift card and use that online, it works for me.

mahatmakanejeeves

(56,897 posts)
30. Call the bookstore or look at their website.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 03:06 PM
Apr 2021

A university bookstore might be accustomed to ordering special options in the computers they sell.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
17. I've had incredible customer service from Apple over the past 20+ years.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:44 PM
Apr 2021

Never, ever had a complaint with their products or their service.

AllaN01Bear

(17,383 posts)
22. a while back i bought a dell. ( big mistake) 4 hard drive crashes and no tec suppourt
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 01:42 PM
Apr 2021

from staples and or dell. the os was windoze vista. yuck. also bought a apple had same problem. called apple support , even though the machine was well out of warrenty and apple care , i described my issue to apple and they sent me a box and fixed it . had a problem later but a friend of mine replaced the disc. i now have a late macbook pro and going to upgrade to the newest version of the os . apple care rocks . dell does not. oops did i just rhyme ?

2naSalit

(86,061 posts)
28. That's what my sister tells me...
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 03:04 PM
Apr 2021

She has one for her business.

I have used them at work in various places over the years but I don't like them. I remember using one of those things with the 5" monitor way back when. I have used one of those Mac Pro things too and I didn't like them, hard to describe, just easier to sum it up by saying I just don't like them. But I was willing to overlook all that to work my projects. There are other similar software packages out there that will work on the unit I just bought that isn't a Mac so I think I'll go with a plan B, probably end up costing the same in the end. It's just so frustrating that every purchase has to be done online.

jmowreader

(50,453 posts)
35. The last time I bought a Mac, I went to Best Buy
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 05:25 PM
Apr 2021

I needed to replace my iPad (iPads and porcelain floors do not mix, folks) and according to the Apple website the local Apple store didn't have the one I wanted - 128GB and gold in color - so I ordered it directly from Apple. Cool thing about buying those online is you can get them Karen-proofed by having your name engraved on the back, and that's a free service.

maliaSmith

(80 posts)
13. Apple supporting Red state
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:22 PM
Apr 2021

I quit buying Apple products 10 years ago. Apple is now going to help support a state that just created racist anti voting laws, and other laws against LGBT and Women's rights. I will never purchase anything with an Apple on it. They support racist and sexist laws and probably got a huge tax break from the racist GOP who govern this state. I put my money on states that haven't created racist sexist laws.

mahatmakanejeeves

(56,897 posts)
16. One hopes that NC residents weigh in and keep us abreast of how things are going in NC these days.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:29 PM
Apr 2021

I'm guessing that members of the LGBT community don't do too poorly in the Research Triangle.

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Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
19. Apple's CEO, Tim Cook, is gay and has been promoting LGBT and women's rights for years.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:50 PM
Apr 2021

He raised money for Hillary in the 2016 campaign. Maybe Apple can help turn NC blue.

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
20. Apple's Move
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:53 PM
Apr 2021

will turn that Red State further Blue and allow it to change it's racist and discriminatory practices.
Last year Senatorial vote was a 95k difference. With some idiot that could not do the right thing.
It will all start with winning more State House seats to redraw the voting maps.

mnhtnbb

(31,319 posts)
24. This is a huge win for NC
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 02:28 PM
Apr 2021

more info here in the WRAL story:


The 1-million-sq.-ft. building will bring more than 3,000 additional jobs to RTP.
Jobs will be offered in machine learning, artificial intelligence, software engineering and other cutting-edge industries and will eventually pay a minimum average salary of $187,000.
Apple says it will invest more than $1 billion in the state.
In addition to the new campus, the company will invest $100 million to support schools and community initiatives in the Triangle and will put more than $110 million toward infrastructure in 80 North Carolina counties.
Political leaders and local economists say the move will easily attract people and companies from across the U.S. and from other countries to the state and the Triangle.


https://www.wral.com/apple-picks-triangle-north-carolina-for-new-campus/19646410/

Tim Cook, the CEO of Apple, is a graduate of Duke's business school. Apparently our Governor Cooper (Dem) has been wooing Mr. Cook and it has now paid off. Big time.

Yavin4

(35,357 posts)
25. High Tech jobs means racial and cultural diversity.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 02:41 PM
Apr 2021

Means more votes for better K-12 schools. Means more tolerant, less judgmental communities. Means more critical thinkers less biblical thinkers.

Means more Democrats get elected to office.

SpankMe

(2,937 posts)
26. That's the sound of NC shooting themselves in the foot.
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 02:50 PM
Apr 2021

High paying jobs will lead to high housing prices and will displace lower income workers.

Apple will bring a significantly blue tint to NC and the klan will lose yet another foothold in the south.

Frankly, I don't think Tim Cook should reward repressive red states with jobs and prestige, even if it will work in progressives' favor in the long term.

moose65

(3,164 posts)
37. Do you know anything about NC?
Mon Apr 26, 2021, 09:06 PM
Apr 2021

We who actually live here are working hard to try to defeat these knuckle-dragging Republicans. Isn’t it a GOOD thing to attract more educated, left-leaning people?

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