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Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:22 AM

Apple will spend $1 billion for 3,000-employee campus in Raleigh

Source: WFMY, Greensboro NC

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Apple will spend $1 billion for 3,000-employee campus in Raleigh

Raleigh officials confirmed Apple announced its decision to build a new campus in Wake County.

Author: Chris Venzon (WFMY News2)
Published: 7:56 AM EDT April 26, 2021
Updated: 11:17 AM EDT April 26, 2021

RALEIGH, N.C. -- Apple is coming to Raleigh. State officials confirmed Monday, the tech giant plans on building a campus in the Research Triangle. ... The Apple campus is expected to bring 3,000 jobs and $1 billion to North Carolina. This will be Apple's first entirely new U.S. campus in more than 20 years and signifies a long-term investment in the state and region.

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The jobs would pay an average of $187,000 a year starting in 2023, according to the commerce department. ... The announcement comes the day Cooper plans to hold his 'State of the State' address at 7 p.m.

A spokesperson with North Carolina A&T said the school is included in Apple's planned investments of $100 million to support schools in the state and a $110 million investment in infrastructure to support enhancing broadband connectivity.

"With 3,000 proposed jobs in engineering, 5G technology graduates in the school's STEM programs are poised to be a significant human resource and talent component for the new campus," the spokesperson said.

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Read more: https://www.wfmynews2.com/article/money/business/apple-campus-raleigh-north-carolina/83-0286a052-dbf6-435f-9a28-9b0b04eb095f?ref=exit-recirc



"The jobs would pay an average of $187,000 a year starting in 2023, according to the commerce department."

Full disclosure: I own shares of Apple.

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Reply Apple will spend $1 billion for 3,000-employee campus in Raleigh (Original post)
mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2021 OP
AllaN01Bear Apr 2021 #1
USAFRetired_Liberal Apr 2021 #3
Dream Girl Apr 2021 #14
Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #6
brooklynite Apr 2021 #32
4Q2u2 Apr 2021 #2
Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #8
4Q2u2 Apr 2021 #18
Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #21
rainin Apr 2021 #23
joetheman Apr 2021 #34
ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2021 #36
RussBLib Apr 2021 #4
targetpractice Apr 2021 #7
LiberalArkie Apr 2021 #12
2naSalit Apr 2021 #5
Hugh_Lebowski Apr 2021 #9
targetpractice Apr 2021 #11
targetpractice Apr 2021 #10
mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2021 #15
2naSalit Apr 2021 #27
mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2021 #30
2naSalit Apr 2021 #31
Elwood P Dowd Apr 2021 #17
AllaN01Bear Apr 2021 #22
2naSalit Apr 2021 #28
DENVERPOPS Apr 2021 #29
jmowreader Apr 2021 #35
maliaSmith Apr 2021 #13
mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2021 #16
Elwood P Dowd Apr 2021 #19
4Q2u2 Apr 2021 #20
mnhtnbb Apr 2021 #24
Yavin4 Apr 2021 #25
SpankMe Apr 2021 #26
brooklynite Apr 2021 #33
moose65 Apr 2021 #37

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:27 AM

1. bailing the state that built u. so long and dont let the door hit u in the rump.

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Response to AllaN01Bear (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:31 AM

3. I don't think they are bailing on California

This is an expansion....which is good politics wise as it moves or attracts liberal professionals to a state trending purple

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Response to USAFRetired_Liberal (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:24 PM

14. Exactly. This is a good thing.

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Response to AllaN01Bear (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:49 AM

6. There is no mention of closing the CA location

so I don't understand the hostility.

Also, as Apple has a green power mandate, that means more pressure on state to install more renewable energy.

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Response to AllaN01Bear (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 03:57 PM

32. Um, are you aware of the size of the new Silicon Valley campus Apple has built?

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:30 AM

2. Turning NC Blue

Just like Musk will do in Texas.
Reds selling themselves out for job that most will never get.

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Response to 4Q2u2 (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:53 AM

8. Musk's move into Texas

creates an existentialist dilemma for the oil industry/power. Texas prides itself on high tech jobs, and Tesla brings them by the bushel. Meanwhile, cybertrucks show up in the middle of "pickup truck country", and Tesla's power division starts competing with Texas' incompetent electric utilities.

SpaceX also has a huge presence in Texas, and it was just awarded the project to take us back to the moon.

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Reply #8)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:45 PM

18. Mostly going to

Highly educated left leaning voters.

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Response to 4Q2u2 (Reply #18)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:59 PM

21. Anyone capable of dangerous

jobs like working as a rigger in an oil field, can handle installing/servicing wind turbines, solar panels, and working assembly lines at an auto plant, regardless of ideology. Whether their ideology will allow them to take such jobs is a different issue.

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Response to 4Q2u2 (Reply #18)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 02:16 PM

23. Left-leaning engineers still hire right wing plumbers. High paying jobs

help everyone.

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Response to 4Q2u2 (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 04:09 PM

34. YES! And next SC.

Paying back the minorities who have been left out of the tech economy in large scale.

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Response to 4Q2u2 (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 05:35 PM

36. Libertarian anti union Musk?

Or is there a different Musk?

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:31 AM

4. Apple should disengage from China

Sure, it's a huge market, but you have to kowtow to the Chinese government.

Build the factories in America, pay good wages, and yes, the products will cost more, but maybe we can get over this, "which product is cheapest" hangup we have been on.

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Response to RussBLib (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:51 AM

7. Building factories in the US is not feasible...

... Not just because wages are higher... But, most practically... The ENTIRE supply chain for third party components in Apple products is in Asia (e.g., screens, chips, etc.) There is no way that Apple could replicate the supply chain in the US... At least not in the near future.

The US gave up semi-conductor manufacturing to Asia many years ago. Not a good move, but that's what happened.

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Response to targetpractice (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:16 PM

12. Gave it up to Japan then S Korea then China I believe.

I believe all the stuff is produced in and around Shenzhen now. So it is very easy to move parts and manufacturing around.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:38 AM

5. Whoopee.

I hate to tell ya this but actually not. I have been attempting to purchase an Apple laptop for the past45 days and all I get is BS and NO customer service no matter where I go. Seems I'm not allowed to buy one unless I purchase it online which is not going to happen since I don;t have a credit card that I would post online. I have been to three, that's all there is within a hundred miles of me, shops to make a purchase through them and was thwarted by hundreds of dollars in mark-ups and alleged warranties.

So this has spoiled my desire to spend a minimum of &1700 for the device I wanted with no customer service, nobody can tell me about the apps I wanted or anything other than the payment plan at that location and the fact that I can't have it unless I order it online. What a crock of poo. And that's beside the point that I hate their hardware and don't really care for their other products, but I wanted a certain program and it's only available with their hardware so i was willing to overlook that for the sake of having the program I wanted and spend a couple thousand dollars for it.

Well not after the BS run around I have been experiencing and that is holding up a project I need to work on.

So screw Apple and their overpriced products and no customer service of any kind.

I'll have to put a different set up together to get my project done, should have ignored Apple in the first place for all the aggravation it has brought me. Such a crock of poo.





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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:56 AM

9. Have you thought of just buying an older/used one from like craigslist?

I don't even understand how one can like ... function in life these days ... w/o using a credit card/debit card online.

Do you have paypal or venmo or something like that?

Literally there's like $500,000,000,000 a year spent on the internet. It's just as secure as using a credit card in a store, if not more so. It's extremely important to many many businesses that the process is safe, and most banks and CC issuers are good at detecting fraud, and about letting you off w/o paying if you are a victim of identity theft.

Just sayin'

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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #9)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:01 PM

11. You were in my head just now, Hugh_Lebowski n/t

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:59 AM

10. Highly unusual story.

You can purchase a Mac in the store if you want, but custom builds and normal stock is limited in stores due to the pandemic.

Are. you trying to pay cash? Just sayin'... If you are involved in technology, I don't understand how you make it without giving a credit card for online purchases. Maybe get a Venmo or Cash App card and putting money there for specifically online purchases.

Also, AppleCare+ is great when needed, but you don't need to decide at purchase. And, Apple's customer support is crazy awesome.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:28 PM

15. As has been said, this is an unusual story.

You probably get more protection shopping online with a credit card than you do with any other form of payment. If you detect an unauthorized use of your card, you can shut it down right away, and losses are limited, if any.

Are you near any universities? Their bookstores more than likely carry Apple products.

Again, I own Apple stock, but I'm trying to remain neutral.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #15)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 02:52 PM

27. There's a...

university over in the next county, where I had been shopping, and I hadn't thought about the bookstore.

I might try that. I function on a debit card and that's really all I usually need. I bought a car for cash a few years ago that was a few times more than my cash ATM limit so I went to half the ATMs in the county seat for a couple days maxing out my cash limit. It was kind of fun.

I expected to be able to get one from Costco but was told at the store that I had to order it online. I don't care to buy things online for that amount of $$ so I try to find other routes. I was told, at the small store up in town, that he would take a hit if he sold me what I had ordered through him. As we were going through the order wizard, it showed that they are not offering some of their products anymore and mine was on the margin, a MacBook Pro, real simple with the next step up memory... and he said that they had restrictions making it a cost for him to sell it to me and that I had to go to a big box store which puts me back at Costco from whom I would have ordered if they had helped me.

It also seems that everything from demos of programs and option to get a hands on trial at at store is not an option. Every time I touched a demo I was talked into going somewhere else, even when I told them I was ready to buy the damned thing right now. Nobody has them in stock because they say it costs too much to have them.

SMH.

For smaller purchases I go get a gift card and use that online, it works for me.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #27)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 03:06 PM

30. Call the bookstore or look at their website.

A university bookstore might be accustomed to ordering special options in the computers they sell.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #30)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 03:10 PM

31. Thanks, I'm looking for their info...

Won't be long. It's not even a special/custom set up.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:44 PM

17. I've had incredible customer service from Apple over the past 20+ years.

Never, ever had a complaint with their products or their service.

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Reply #17)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 01:42 PM

22. a while back i bought a dell. ( big mistake) 4 hard drive crashes and no tec suppourt

from staples and or dell. the os was windoze vista. yuck. also bought a apple had same problem. called apple support , even though the machine was well out of warrenty and apple care , i described my issue to apple and they sent me a box and fixed it . had a problem later but a friend of mine replaced the disc. i now have a late macbook pro and going to upgrade to the newest version of the os . apple care rocks . dell does not. oops did i just rhyme ?

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Reply #17)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 03:04 PM

28. That's what my sister tells me...

She has one for her business.

I have used them at work in various places over the years but I don't like them. I remember using one of those things with the 5" monitor way back when. I have used one of those Mac Pro things too and I didn't like them, hard to describe, just easier to sum it up by saying I just don't like them. But I was willing to overlook all that to work my projects. There are other similar software packages out there that will work on the unit I just bought that isn't a Mac so I think I'll go with a plan B, probably end up costing the same in the end. It's just so frustrating that every purchase has to be done online.

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Response to Elwood P Dowd (Reply #17)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 03:05 PM

29. Me neither, since early 80's.

That is, until Jobs died and Mr. $$$$'s took over.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 05:25 PM

35. The last time I bought a Mac, I went to Best Buy

I needed to replace my iPad (iPads and porcelain floors do not mix, folks) and according to the Apple website the local Apple store didn't have the one I wanted - 128GB and gold in color - so I ordered it directly from Apple. Cool thing about buying those online is you can get them Karen-proofed by having your name engraved on the back, and that's a free service.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:22 PM

13. Apple supporting Red state

I quit buying Apple products 10 years ago. Apple is now going to help support a state that just created racist anti voting laws, and other laws against LGBT and Women's rights. I will never purchase anything with an Apple on it. They support racist and sexist laws and probably got a huge tax break from the racist GOP who govern this state. I put my money on states that haven't created racist sexist laws.

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Response to maliaSmith (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:29 PM

16. One hopes that NC residents weigh in and keep us abreast of how things are going in NC these days.

I'm guessing that members of the LGBT community don't do too poorly in the Research Triangle.

How North Carolina Voted

This page showed live results during the 2016 election.
Click here for our main North Carolina results page.

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Response to maliaSmith (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:50 PM

19. Apple's CEO, Tim Cook, is gay and has been promoting LGBT and women's rights for years.

He raised money for Hillary in the 2016 campaign. Maybe Apple can help turn NC blue.

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Response to maliaSmith (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:53 PM

20. Apple's Move

will turn that Red State further Blue and allow it to change it's racist and discriminatory practices.
Last year Senatorial vote was a 95k difference. With some idiot that could not do the right thing.
It will all start with winning more State House seats to redraw the voting maps.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 02:28 PM

24. This is a huge win for NC

more info here in the WRAL story:


The 1-million-sq.-ft. building will bring more than 3,000 additional jobs to RTP.
Jobs will be offered in machine learning, artificial intelligence, software engineering and other cutting-edge industries and will eventually pay a minimum average salary of $187,000.
Apple says it will invest more than $1 billion in the state.
In addition to the new campus, the company will invest $100 million to support schools and community initiatives in the Triangle and will put more than $110 million toward infrastructure in 80 North Carolina counties.
Political leaders and local economists say the move will easily attract people and companies from across the U.S. and from other countries to the state and the Triangle.


https://www.wral.com/apple-picks-triangle-north-carolina-for-new-campus/19646410/

Tim Cook, the CEO of Apple, is a graduate of Duke's business school. Apparently our Governor Cooper (Dem) has been wooing Mr. Cook and it has now paid off. Big time.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 02:41 PM

25. High Tech jobs means racial and cultural diversity.

Means more votes for better K-12 schools. Means more tolerant, less judgmental communities. Means more critical thinkers less biblical thinkers.

Means more Democrats get elected to office.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 02:50 PM

26. That's the sound of NC shooting themselves in the foot.

High paying jobs will lead to high housing prices and will displace lower income workers.

Apple will bring a significantly blue tint to NC and the klan will lose yet another foothold in the south.

Frankly, I don't think Tim Cook should reward repressive red states with jobs and prestige, even if it will work in progressives' favor in the long term.

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Response to SpankMe (Reply #26)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 03:59 PM

33. NC with a Democratic Governor and AG is a "repressive red State"?

Good to know.

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Response to SpankMe (Reply #26)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 09:06 PM

37. Do you know anything about NC?

We who actually live here are working hard to try to defeat these knuckle-dragging Republicans. Isnít it a GOOD thing to attract more educated, left-leaning people?

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