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Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
Tue May 4, 2021, 06:39 PM May 2021

Derek Chauvin files motion for new trial in George Floyd case, alleging jury misconduct

Source: NBC News

Chauvin’s attorney, Eric Nelson, filed the request alleging that the former officer's ability to have a fair trial was affected by pretrial publicity.

Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin filed an appeal for a new trial Tuesday after being convicted last month of murdering George Floyd.

Chauvin’s attorney, Eric Nelson, filed the request alleging that Chauvin's ability to have a fair trial was affected by pretrial publicity. The motion alleges that the court abused its discretion by denying the requests for a change in venue and a new trial.

Since the court failed to sequester the jury or "admonish them to avoid all media," they were not only subjected to prejudicial publicity but also "jury intimidation or potential fear of retribution," Nelson's filing said.



Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/derek-chauvin-files-motion-new-trial-george-floyd-case-alleging-n1266341



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Derek Chauvin files motion for new trial in George Floyd case, alleging jury misconduct (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 May 2021 OP
That's not likely to go anywhere. Ocelot II May 2021 #1
Pretty much 'as anticipated' Siwsan May 2021 #2
All anyone needed to see was the video. Budi May 2021 #3
Oh, I agree with you. Rhiannon12866 May 2021 #4
This is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth forever in this case... Moostache May 2021 #5
Completely agree there LittleGirl May 2021 #47
They call it jury shopping. JohnnyRingo May 2021 #6
It's a bit too late for all that mucifer May 2021 #7
Probably so.... JohnnyRingo May 2021 #39
Not going to happen. onenote May 2021 #12
You're probably right JohnnyRingo May 2021 #40
Well then why didn't he testify himself bluestarone May 2021 #8
Because it wouldn't have been relevant testimony. onenote May 2021 #9
If he had testified, it would have opened up all kinds of embarrassing lines of questioning localroger May 2021 #26
That degree of narcissism is impossible to hide. ShazzieB May 2021 #36
Well, Derek, next time you commit a murder make sure it's not recorded on video abqtommy May 2021 #10
the facts are the facts bdamomma May 2021 #11
The entire world saw the video. The only venue left to him is Mars. Irish_Dem May 2021 #13
Indeed! Chuckling here, but it's true! The only venue left to him is Mars! msfiddlestix May 2021 #15
Right, let the Martians deal with Chauvin. Irish_Dem May 2021 #19
Someone could break the news to him and his lawyer msfiddlestix May 2021 #22
One of my cousins works for NASA. Maybe she can book them a one way trip on a Mars Rover. Irish_Dem May 2021 #23
Excellent idea! Let's make that happen! msfiddlestix May 2021 #25
I'll send her an email. Irish_Dem May 2021 #31
hee hee msfiddlestix May 2021 #32
Boohoo Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2021 #14
No surprise because of juror 52, Brandon Mitchell. What was Mitchell thinking, and then going JohnSJ May 2021 #16
Unfortunately I think he will get a new trial questionseverything May 2021 #17
He should be, especially if he committed perjury. This makes me sick and angry. All the work JohnSJ May 2021 #20
Exactly! nt Raine May 2021 #28
Yup, the juror lied and got on the jury then instead of laying low Raine May 2021 #27
I didn't hear about this. Was this the alternate juror or an actual juror? brush May 2021 #33
Actual juror, he said he knew nothing about Black Lives Matter Raine May 2021 #42
Thank you. brush May 2021 #44
He was pictured wearing a shirt that said "get off of our necks" MichMan May 2021 #52
No, he was not the juror who was iniitally undecided Deminpenn May 2021 #48
The motion has little or nothing to do with Mitchell onenote May 2021 #41
You don't think that will be used when they request a new trial? JohnSJ May 2021 #43
That's not what I said. onenote May 2021 #50
ok, got it JohnSJ May 2021 #51
He's worried about potential "jury intimidation or potential fear of retribution"? Rocknation May 2021 #18
that's what cops do azureblue May 2021 #29
Well you knew this was coming as soon as that story came out Fullduplexxx May 2021 #21
Well, if you murder someone Aussie105 May 2021 #24
Shut the fuck up and rot in your cell, Chauvin Blue Owl May 2021 #30
Did they kneel on his neck for 9 minutes and 29 seconds? truthisfreedom May 2021 #34
Yadda, yadda, yadda. Case dismissed. marble falls May 2021 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Pas-de-Calais May 2021 #37
huh? onenote May 2021 #38
Fuck this dickhead BradAllison May 2021 #45
Oh, for God's sake ailsagirl May 2021 #46
"jury intimidation or potential fear of retribution"... Dawson Leery May 2021 #49

Ocelot II

(115,669 posts)
1. That's not likely to go anywhere.
Tue May 4, 2021, 06:40 PM
May 2021

Abuse of discretion is a pretty tough standard of review for an appeal, which he's trying to set up.

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
2. Pretty much 'as anticipated'
Tue May 4, 2021, 06:42 PM
May 2021

If they were so worried about jury contamination/intimidation, perhaps they should have opted for a directed verdict.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
3. All anyone needed to see was the video.
Tue May 4, 2021, 06:43 PM
May 2021

Nothing, NOTHING could have predjudiced those 9 minutes.

Evidence was Chauvin's own appalling behavior.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
5. This is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth forever in this case...
Tue May 4, 2021, 06:48 PM
May 2021

There are two elements to this that locked in Chauvin's guilt.

1) it is so clearly excessive and deadly that it is painful for moral people to watch, its traumatizing because empathetic humans do not like to watch snuff films.

2) Chauvin's sneering veneer in the still photos from his time murdering George Floyd are more than enough ALONE to know that his guilt was not really in dispute.

LittleGirl

(8,282 posts)
47. Completely agree there
Wed May 5, 2021, 05:32 AM
May 2021

with your two points. Those two points are what did him in.
Nobody likes to watch someone take their last breath with that smug faced piece of shit kneeling on his neck!
There was no remorse.
Go to Jail Chauvin!
Rot the rest of your life there.

JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
6. They call it jury shopping.
Tue May 4, 2021, 06:55 PM
May 2021

To get a sympathetic white jury pool, Chauvin will try to get a change of venue to an upper class suburban location. It may not help, but his odds suddenly become better.

On second thought, he may just go for a county that voted 90+% for Donald Trump.

JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
40. You're probably right
Tue May 4, 2021, 10:06 PM
May 2021

Unless he gets his new trial.
Then they can go for a venue change to somewhere more friendly to that Thin Blue Line.

localroger

(3,626 posts)
26. If he had testified, it would have opened up all kinds of embarrassing lines of questioning
Tue May 4, 2021, 08:26 PM
May 2021

For example, the fact that he'd done this before would have probably come out. Also he is not a very sympathetic witness. You can tell he was coached to do his best (all the "taking notes" was meant to demonstrate interest, but he didn't sell it and he just looked more interested in the notepad than the trial). But he just can't hide his own arrogance. It's become too much of a habit for him.

ShazzieB

(16,359 posts)
36. That degree of narcissism is impossible to hide.
Tue May 4, 2021, 09:46 PM
May 2021

You're right about the arrogance being readily discernible. People like that don't know how to hide it. When you think you're better, more important, and smarter than everyone else, you don't think anyone has the intelligence to see through your facade.

His "above it all" self-estimation was abundantly apparent in the video as well. He wasn't fooling anyone on that score.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
10. Well, Derek, next time you commit a murder make sure it's not recorded on video
Tue May 4, 2021, 07:32 PM
May 2021

and audio! As far as I'm concerned, the jury you're complaining about gave you exactly
what you deserve.

msfiddlestix

(7,278 posts)
15. Indeed! Chuckling here, but it's true! The only venue left to him is Mars!
Tue May 4, 2021, 07:45 PM
May 2021

Or maybe Venus, but hell, we got stuff up on Mars... could set up court there.

hee, hee..

JohnSJ

(92,123 posts)
16. No surprise because of juror 52, Brandon Mitchell. What was Mitchell thinking, and then going
Tue May 4, 2021, 07:45 PM
May 2021

to interview after the trial.

While I think the odds are against a new trial, this was not necessary

JohnSJ

(92,123 posts)
20. He should be, especially if he committed perjury. This makes me sick and angry. All the work
Tue May 4, 2021, 08:11 PM
May 2021

and preparation the prosecution did

and I am not too happy that Maxine Waters thought it necessary to make those comments before the verdict, and I am none too happy that the judge didn't sequester the jury either.

If a new trial is found, I fully expect the defense to change the venue, and move to an extremely conservative district.

That is what happened with the Rodney King trial. They moved it to Simi Valley here in California, which is a conservative stronghold politically, and I suspect the defense will do the same thing in Minnesota

Raine

(30,540 posts)
27. Yup, the juror lied and got on the jury then instead of laying low
Tue May 4, 2021, 08:28 PM
May 2021

stupidly put himself in the public eye.

brush

(53,764 posts)
33. I didn't hear about this. Was this the alternate juror or an actual juror?
Tue May 4, 2021, 09:41 PM
May 2021

And what was the lie?

It was reported that 11 jurors wanted to convict immediately but one was undecided, which it why it took as long as it did before the undecided juror finally came around. Would that be the juror that lied?

Raine

(30,540 posts)
42. Actual juror, he said he knew nothing about Black Lives Matter
Tue May 4, 2021, 10:18 PM
May 2021

but then a picture surfaced of him at a BLM protest after he did a TV interview last week.

MichMan

(11,907 posts)
52. He was pictured wearing a shirt that said "get off of our necks"
Wed May 5, 2021, 10:41 PM
May 2021

Terrible if that ends up overturning the verdict

Deminpenn

(15,278 posts)
48. No, he was not the juror who was iniitally undecided
Wed May 5, 2021, 06:28 AM
May 2021

It's likey he will face questioning by the judge, though.

onenote

(42,690 posts)
41. The motion has little or nothing to do with Mitchell
Tue May 4, 2021, 10:07 PM
May 2021

It was undoubtedly prepared well before the story about Mitchell broke and doesn't refer to Mitchell.

Here's a copy of the motion.
https://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/27-CR-20-12646/Notice-of-Motion-and-Motion.pdf

onenote

(42,690 posts)
50. That's not what I said.
Wed May 5, 2021, 01:45 PM
May 2021

I was pointing out that you were mistaken in linking the the decision to file the motion to the Mitchell disclosure.

Rocknation

(44,575 posts)
18. He's worried about potential "jury intimidation or potential fear of retribution"?
Tue May 4, 2021, 07:58 PM
May 2021

What does he think he's doing NOW???


rocktivity

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
29. that's what cops do
Tue May 4, 2021, 08:31 PM
May 2021

Amazing projection there. get scheduled to testify against a cop on trial and see what happens.. You get stopped, your friends get stopped and drugs planted. Your grandma's house gets invaded over a "suspicious drug activity"

Aussie105

(5,377 posts)
24. Well, if you murder someone
Tue May 4, 2021, 08:21 PM
May 2021

in broad daylight in front of witnesses, some holding cell phones cameras . . .

You are going to get 'pre trial publicity'. All over the news.

Expecting anything else is just unrealistic.

By all means have a retrial. The end result will be the same. Maybe a longer sentence?

Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
49. "jury intimidation or potential fear of retribution"...
Wed May 5, 2021, 01:30 PM
May 2021

is what Chauvin's former department still does on a regular basis to minorities.

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