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reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
Fri May 7, 2021, 07:00 AM May 2021

Accused Capitol rioter had 'Foxitis,' his attorney says: He 'started believing what was being fed to

Source: Washington Post

Accused Capitol rioter had ‘Foxitis,’ his attorney says: He 'started believing what was being fed to him’

In the six months leading up to the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, Anthony Antonio spent his days watching Fox News — a habit that actually made him ill, his attorney told a D.C. federal magistrate judge on Thursday.

His ailment? “Foxitis,” his attorney said, the HuffPost reported. “He became hooked with what I call … ‘Foxmania.’ ”

In the virtual hearing, which went awry when another alleged Capitol rioter interrupted with obscenities, Antonio’s attorney, Joseph Hurley, claimed that Fox News’s decision to regularly air then-President Donald Trump’s false claims of mass election fraud contributed to Antonio’s decision to participate in the insurrection.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/05/07/fox-news-anthony-antonio-capitol-riot/



Ah! The old Twinkie defense!
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Accused Capitol rioter had 'Foxitis,' his attorney says: He 'started believing what was being fed to (Original Post) reACTIONary May 2021 OP
I suppose he was bound and gagged and forced to watch Fox MissMillie May 2021 #1
It shouldn't OldBaldy1701E May 2021 #12
Its not like anyone kicked him in the yarbels and made him watch fox hot2na May 2021 #47
Another insurrectionist filed an amicus brief... reACTIONary May 2021 #2
They need to do this for every single one of them OldBaldy1701E May 2021 #16
If all of your friends were jumping off of a cliff would you? twodogsbarking May 2021 #3
In fact, he did. nt reACTIONary May 2021 #4
Sorry, you're an adult. You have free will oldsoftie May 2021 #5
Can we start re-education camps, like the commies did, for a-hole dissenters? mpcamb May 2021 #6
Yes, and forced labor breaking stones with a sledge, stones painted up w/Trump's image! machoneman May 2021 #11
He can sue fox news, right after his conviction. n/t Yonnie3 May 2021 #7
That's a great idea, a mass class action lawsuit against misinformation. KS Toronado May 2021 #35
The owneR of FQX lives in Australia. Justice matters. May 2021 #62
I was thinking FQX the business, but yes it should include Rupert Murdoch KS Toronado May 2021 #68
Yes, he has homes in NY, CA and England TexasBushwhacker May 2021 #69
Lachlan Murdoch now lives in COVID-free Australia. Justice matters. May 2021 #70
Infoxicated The Wizard May 2021 #8
lol Ohioboy May 2021 #9
+1. Excellent extension of language. I will be using it! NCjack May 2021 #49
He had rube-ella. LudwigPastorius May 2021 #57
This is not going to work Best_man23 May 2021 #10
Stupidity is a choice and not a defense. ancianita May 2021 #13
He isn't wrong whopis01 May 2021 #14
This Laha May 2021 #18
Amen. Wednesdays May 2021 #32
Everything they claim to be is BS. Justice matters. May 2021 #63
I agree PatSeg May 2021 #37
while I agree Skittles May 2021 #67
"But, Judge, they FORCED me to watch FOX!!" FailureToCommunicate May 2021 #15
So, does this mean that we should grant amnesty to Nazi participants in the Holocaust... Montauk6 May 2021 #17
I think I've heard of it rpannier May 2021 #19
Admitting you are a gullible fool is a start, TNNurse May 2021 #20
Well at least he didn't plead "affluenza". nt JustABozoOnThisBus May 2021 #21
The first word that popped into my head. niyad May 2021 #27
A Republican/Nazi was moronic enough to ingest, and act on, bullshit. Same old, same old. johnthewoodworker May 2021 #22
White conservatives can come up with the most creative excuses. Baitball Blogger May 2021 #23
this is no joke - this is how propaganda works NewHendoLib May 2021 #24
Not to mention a complete failure of critical thinking lonely bird May 2021 #28
and a heavy dose of narcissism, aided by social networking tools NewHendoLib May 2021 #30
Propaganda and brainwashing. summer_in_TX May 2021 #65
I love this defense. louis-t May 2021 #25
I never cut my ex-friends any slack due to their "Foxitis." Paladin May 2021 #26
nonsensical. bah humbug. lunacy. silly AllaN01Bear May 2021 #29
So many of these idiots running with the fox made me do it angle Devil Child May 2021 #31
I always got the impression Hurley was kind of an a$$hole defense attorney woodsprite May 2021 #33
I didn't know this guy is well known... reACTIONary May 2021 #61
That isn't going to fly JohnSJ May 2021 #34
Ah, the self-proclaimed "Party of Personal Responsibility" strikes again! Aristus May 2021 #36
This is your brain when Fox is on. Any questions? Marcuse May 2021 #38
"Foxitis" is right up there with "affluenza" BumRushDaShow May 2021 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author The Unmitigated Gall May 2021 #40
Using "Foxitis" as a defense is nonsense, hadEnuf May 2021 #41
It would be a good side effect if Fox faces some consequences for inciting violence IronLionZion May 2021 #42
21st century twinkie defense keroro gunsou May 2021 #43
Atkins, Van Houten, Krenwinkel and Watson... The Unmitigated Gall May 2021 #44
The Stupid -- It Burns ThatJustHappened May 2021 #45
Nice UpInArms May 2021 #66
If "Ignorance of the law is no excuse," then how about plain ignorance? malthaussen May 2021 #46
Is this the new Twinkie defense? Jetheels May 2021 #48
Unsolicited testimonial? czarjak May 2021 #50
Foxmentia. Wingus Dingus May 2021 #51
How convenient - these right-wing fuckers SpankMe May 2021 #52
The righties are always throwing out the Dr. T May 2021 #53
They want to be in charge... AngryOldDem May 2021 #54
Just another version of "The Devil made me do it!" n/t Eyeball_Kid May 2021 #55
"Your Honor, my client is a mouth-breathing moron...basically, a walking brain stem...so, he... LudwigPastorius May 2021 #56
Back In The Early 1950's I Remember My Dad Glued To The Radio To Listen To Gabriel Heater DallasNE May 2021 #58
"Diminished Capacity" ThatJustHappened May 2021 #59
welcome to DU! nt reACTIONary May 2021 #60
The owneR of FQX lives in Australia. Justice matters. May 2021 #64
Kick ck4829 May 2021 #71

MissMillie

(38,548 posts)
1. I suppose he was bound and gagged and forced to watch Fox
Fri May 7, 2021, 07:07 AM
May 2021

Being drunk doesn't excuse anyone for driving drunk and killing someone. Why should this defense fly?

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
2. Another insurrectionist filed an amicus brief...
Fri May 7, 2021, 07:11 AM
May 2021

The hearing grew increasingly chaotic when another alleged rioter, who was waiting for his own hearing, interjected repeatedly.... At the mention of “Foxitis,” he yelled, “I object," “F--- all of you,” “I don’t like you people” and “You can’t come get me if I don’t want you to,”. The judge ordered him evaluated for mental competency.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,113 posts)
16. They need to do this for every single one of them
Fri May 7, 2021, 07:46 AM
May 2021

And, once it is shown that they were in their right minds, and that their actions were the result of arrogance and massive Dunning Kruger Syndrome, then we can stop with the attempts to prove these insurrectionists were anything other than asshats. And, dangerous ones at that for buying into anything some flashy television how tells them is real. Their only 'ailment' is stupidity, which is devastating, but is not illegal inandof itself.

oldsoftie

(12,530 posts)
5. Sorry, you're an adult. You have free will
Fri May 7, 2021, 07:13 AM
May 2021

And if he REALLY spent his "days" watching nothing but Fox, the prosecution can show plenty of clips from actual NEWS people to contradict the blathering from Tucker et al.
Hell, Fox was the first network to call the election for Biden!

KS Toronado

(17,198 posts)
35. That's a great idea, a mass class action lawsuit against misinformation.
Fri May 7, 2021, 09:43 AM
May 2021

FQX needs to go down the drain for the good of the country. Maybe we should push the DOJ or FCC to do something.

KS Toronado

(17,198 posts)
68. I was thinking FQX the business, but yes it should include Rupert Murdoch
Sat May 8, 2021, 10:30 AM
May 2021

since he's the owner. Fairly certain we can extradite him if necessary, besides I believe he's in this country
quite a bit.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,173 posts)
69. Yes, he has homes in NY, CA and England
Sat May 8, 2021, 10:54 PM
May 2021

He hasn't lived in Australia in decades and became an American citizen in 1985.

Justice matters.

(6,925 posts)
70. Lachlan Murdoch now lives in COVID-free Australia.
Sat May 8, 2021, 11:50 PM
May 2021


Rupert MuRdoch's Evil EmpiRe has been handed down to his two sons, James & Lachlan. James Murdoch resigned from his post over the Evil-EmpiRe's standing on Climate Change (denying it). Lachlan, the remaining CEO of the Evil EmpiRe, recently moved to COVID-free Australia because he wanted to live in a COVID-free environment.

LudwigPastorius

(9,136 posts)
57. He had rube-ella.
Fri May 7, 2021, 02:41 PM
May 2021

assfluenza

dolt-theria

cretinpox

twit-itus

kooktussis

clownulosis

and

Acquired Graymatter Deficiency Syndrome

Best_man23

(4,897 posts)
10. This is not going to work
Fri May 7, 2021, 07:39 AM
May 2021

Unless they can prove someone at Faux strapped him to a chair in front of a TV w/Faux News and forced his eyes open, like in Robot Chicken.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
13. Stupidity is a choice and not a defense.
Fri May 7, 2021, 07:43 AM
May 2021

Defense lawyers can put lipstick on the stupidity pig, but it insults both judges and pigs.

whopis01

(3,510 posts)
14. He isn't wrong
Fri May 7, 2021, 07:44 AM
May 2021

He still still bears the full blame and consequences of his actions. But pointing out the role that Fox and other media sources played in this is important.

This movement didn’t happen because a bunch of independently thinking people came to the same conclusion and then decided to band together. These people were told what to believe and what to do and then happily went along with it. The large media entities pushing the lies and stoking the fears played an integral role in what happened.

He deserves no absolution based on this. But at the same time, Fox, and other entities, should be held responsible as well.

Laha

(407 posts)
18. This
Fri May 7, 2021, 07:58 AM
May 2021

As more and more people come out and say 'I did it because Fox told me to,' Fox should be held more and more accountable for what they say. They're not just screaming fire in a crowded theatre, they're screaming it across the country and people have already lost their lives as a result. Fucker Carlson and the rest have blood on their hands.

Wednesdays

(17,342 posts)
32. Amen.
Fri May 7, 2021, 09:21 AM
May 2021

Fox is a scourge on this country.

And yet, wasn't it the Repug Party that, for two generations, endlessly repeated "Personal responsibility! Personal responsibility!"?

Justice matters.

(6,925 posts)
63. Everything they claim to be is BS.
Fri May 7, 2021, 10:40 PM
May 2021
The owner of FQX lives in Australia (Rupert Murdoch's son).

R there extradition treaties with Aussies?

PatSeg

(47,397 posts)
37. I agree
Fri May 7, 2021, 09:48 AM
May 2021

Though he still bares responsibility for his actions, it is good to call out Fox News whenever possible. I hope more lawyers try to use this defense so Fox can be indicted along side the insurrectionists. Perhaps it will help to loosen Fox's grip on some Americans. Maybe it will eventually lead to some class action lawsuits as well.

Montauk6

(8,075 posts)
17. So, does this mean that we should grant amnesty to Nazi participants in the Holocaust...
Fri May 7, 2021, 07:46 AM
May 2021

...because they suffered from Goebbelsitis?

Or we should look the other way on racist White supremacist/separatist groups because they're victims of "Lost Cause"-itis?


GTFOH!!!

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
19. I think I've heard of it
Fri May 7, 2021, 08:04 AM
May 2021

That's the one where you are highly contagious and need to be totally isolated from everyone for 15-20 years

Baitball Blogger

(46,699 posts)
23. White conservatives can come up with the most creative excuses.
Fri May 7, 2021, 08:17 AM
May 2021

I heard of the "You made me do it" defense. And now it's the "Fox made me do it" defense.

NewHendoLib

(60,014 posts)
24. this is no joke - this is how propaganda works
Fri May 7, 2021, 08:37 AM
May 2021

we have nearly half of the population infected with Rushitis, Hannityitis, Foxmania, etc - but IT WORKS. It is NOT a defense for the listener - it is a warning that the half of us who maintains our sanity can't take it lightly - somehow it must be confronted. That the BIG LIE persists is an utter failure of our system, and our media.

lonely bird

(1,685 posts)
28. Not to mention a complete failure of critical thinking
Fri May 7, 2021, 09:00 AM
May 2021

Our society does not encourage critical thinking. Faux Noise in particular and conservatism in general do not want people thinking. Add in instant gratification and poor impulse control and what do we get? Mass idiocy and the maturity of spoiled 4 year olds.

summer_in_TX

(2,732 posts)
65. Propaganda and brainwashing.
Sat May 8, 2021, 12:06 AM
May 2021

The documentary "The Brainwashing of My Dad" is a real example of the changes a diet of RW media had on a man, and then how his personality changed again when his wife and daughter made it impossible for him to have a solely RW media diet anymore.

An earlier documentary, "Outfoxed: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism," showed some of the techniques they used.

Heck, Jon Stewart illustrated the Republicans' brainwashing techniques perfectly. The administration spokesperson would use a new turn of phrase in the morning, then every pundit and anchor on RW media would use the exact same phrase. Studies into Hitler and Goebbels' techniques showed the power of repetition ("broken record technique&quot and the "bandwagon effect" (a desire to join what seems to be a trend).

The notion that Obama wasn't born in the U.S. was given credence and wings by the toxic stew of RW media plus a few well-dressed members of Congress plus a certain loud-mouthed billionaire along with repetition.

Not that those who fall for the lies aren't responsible for their actions. But theirs isn't the only culpability here.

Paladin

(28,252 posts)
26. I never cut my ex-friends any slack due to their "Foxitis."
Fri May 7, 2021, 08:51 AM
May 2021

So I'm good with this Capitol rioter spending the rest of his miserable life behind bars.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
31. So many of these idiots running with the fox made me do it angle
Fri May 7, 2021, 09:15 AM
May 2021

I could’ve sworn these types also claimed they were the critical thinkers!?

woodsprite

(11,911 posts)
33. I always got the impression Hurley was kind of an a$$hole defense attorney
Fri May 7, 2021, 09:28 AM
May 2021

taking high profile cases in DE like Capano, Grossberg/Peterson, etc.

Supposedly he dropped Capano before the hearing because he had a message from God during a church service.

Wonder what God is telling him about Antonio?

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
61. I didn't know this guy is well known...
Fri May 7, 2021, 10:11 PM
May 2021

.... his defense strategy sounds like something a billboard lawyer with a 1-800 number would come up with.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
36. Ah, the self-proclaimed "Party of Personal Responsibility" strikes again!
Fri May 7, 2021, 09:44 AM
May 2021

"It's not my fault, Your Honor! I have a syndrome! I have a condition! I'm the victim here!"



BumRushDaShow

(128,840 posts)
39. "Foxitis" is right up there with "affluenza"
Fri May 7, 2021, 09:51 AM
May 2021

We are going to need a whole new medical dictionary for what "ails" the GOP loons!

Response to reACTIONary (Original post)

hadEnuf

(2,187 posts)
41. Using "Foxitis" as a defense is nonsense,
Fri May 7, 2021, 09:54 AM
May 2021

but it still identifies Fox as the subversive and brainwashing propaganda toll that it is.

Fox needs to be broken up and identified for what it really is.

IronLionZion

(45,426 posts)
42. It would be a good side effect if Fox faces some consequences for inciting violence
Fri May 7, 2021, 10:01 AM
May 2021

and other RW media like hate radio.

 

ThatJustHappened

(78 posts)
45. The Stupid -- It Burns
Fri May 7, 2021, 10:09 AM
May 2021

Get ready for lots more of this
Cuz the Capitol Rioters
Are the dumbest of the dumb

The one thing the radicalized / indoctrinated
Have in common
Is extreme unintelligence and ignorance

It's what all extremists have in common:
Opus Dei, ISIS, Heaven's Gate, David Koresh
Ruby Ridge, McVeigh, Militia Members, Nazis
Religious nutbags (i.e., ~80% of the GOP)
Covid/Mask/Vaxx/Climate/Science/Reality-deniers

Sure, there's some incidence of schizotypals
(~5x the national average of 4% of population)
And the folks at the top are more evil than stupid
But the followers are dumber than bricks

Which is why the newfound criticism of liberal woke-ism
Being too judgemental/moralistic/blaming of the alt-reich
From James Carville and the like is wrong headed
Cuz ya gotta call a spade a spade
And ignorant = dumb = indoctrinated = lies = evil

malthaussen

(17,186 posts)
46. If "Ignorance of the law is no excuse," then how about plain ignorance?
Fri May 7, 2021, 10:11 AM
May 2021

Your defendant was suffering from "Foxitis," eh? Fine, he gets a double sentence.

-- Mal

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
52. How convenient - these right-wing fuckers
Fri May 7, 2021, 10:50 AM
May 2021

They live their lives hanging on every word FoxNews says. When confronted with facts and contrary evidence, they cry out "fake news - deep state - conspiracy", and they go on believing in the almighty Fox.

Then, when they get caught committing criminal acts, their lawyers are all of a sudden "oh, they were duped by this tricky FoxNews organization. They're not responsible for their actions. It was Fox foolery!"

If we could convert "hate" into electrical energy, the amount of hate I have for Republicans and today's flavor of conservatism each day could power a modern Air Force base. During business hours. In the peak of summer. With back-up power capability.

Dr. T

(97 posts)
53. The righties are always throwing out the
Fri May 7, 2021, 11:43 AM
May 2021

"radical left wing liberal" line of crap every chance they get on any venue that will have them. Why isn't ANYBODY using the term "radical right wing conservative agenda/terrorist/policy"? These bastards need to be labeled for what they are. Might make some of them think.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
54. They want to be in charge...
Fri May 7, 2021, 11:59 AM
May 2021

....yet they prove on a daily basis that they’re dumber than a box of rox.

If this defense holds up, Fox should be declared a menace to public health and be dealt with accordingly.

LudwigPastorius

(9,136 posts)
56. "Your Honor, my client is a mouth-breathing moron...basically, a walking brain stem...so, he...
Fri May 7, 2021, 02:29 PM
May 2021

should not be held liable for breaking the law."


Ever heard of ignorantia juris non excusat, counselor?

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
58. Back In The Early 1950's I Remember My Dad Glued To The Radio To Listen To Gabriel Heater
Fri May 7, 2021, 03:09 PM
May 2021

He hung on every word Heater said. Farm prices were good so he could indulge in his favorite pastime. Then under Eisenhower farm prices collapsed and times were suddenly hard. Then along came a change to extend Social Security to farmers where they could draw full benefits after paying in for a short period of time. Gabriel Heater was suddenly no longer on the radio. And he re-registered as a Democrat. Impact the pocketbook and attitudes change. At least for some.

 

ThatJustHappened

(78 posts)
59. "Diminished Capacity"
Fri May 7, 2021, 07:21 PM
May 2021

Is the official legal defense

perfect encapsulation of every Fox viewer and the entire GOP


As explained by former senior FBI official Chuck Rosenberg

Which simply means that my client is too stupid to tell the difference between truth and fiction

Therefore he could not have formed true intent

Cuz he's just an idiot robot who cannot think for himself


It's a lame defense and will not suffice

But it does perfectly explain the overlapping Venn Diagrams of the religious right, the GOP, FOX viewers and MAGA scum

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