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Mon May 10, 2021, 11:24 AM

infullview (884 posts)

Melinda Gates began divorce moves at time Bill's meetings with Jeffrey Epstein revealed

Source: The Guardian

But it said few “compared in prestige and power to the [then] world’s second-richest person, a brilliant and intensely private luminary: Bill Gates. And unlike many others, Mr Gates started the relationship after Mr Epstein was convicted of sex crimes.”

In 2008, Epstein reached a deal with authorities and was sentenced to 13 months confinement for soliciting prostitution from underage girls. The conditions of the deal were a source of controversy 11 years later, when Epstein was charged with sex trafficking. Found dead in a New York jail, he was deemed to have killed himself.

Earlier this week, the Daily Beast reported that Melinda Gates warned her husband about associating with Epstein in 2013. The Wall Street Journal cited a former employee of the Gates Foundation who said relationships between the two men and other Gates employees continued after that warning.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/may/10/melinda-bill-gates-divorce-jeffrey-epstein-meetings

Possibly old Bill isn't the saint everyone thinks he is...

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Melinda Gates began divorce moves at time Bill's meetings with Jeffrey Epstein revealed (Original post)	infullview	May 2021	OP
Bill was a saint?	Girard442	May 2021	#1
News to me too.	paleotn	May 2021	#19
Let's hope Bill Gates didn't pull a Matt Gaetz	Blue Owl	May 2021	#2
Not good, William.	ForgoTheConsequence	May 2021	#3
Bill is only a saint when it comes to some of his donations -	OhZone	May 2021	#4
That's why I don't have auto update because	INdemo	May 2021	#18
Microsoft was as evil as Amazon ever dreamed of being.	paleotn	May 2021	#20
Looks like the post-divorce PR battle has begun. n/t	PoliticAverse	May 2021	#5
hmm	AllaN01Bear	May 2021	#6
Nearly everyone rich met Epstein	Loki Liesmith	May 2021	#7
You are right, and even though it is very possible that Gates was only there to solicit money just	JohnSJ	May 2021	#10
Exactly. Epstein traveled in lofty circles and many didn't know all the seedy things he did.	George II	May 2021	#13
I've	Faux pas	May 2021	#8
I hope the Gates Epstein connections were not about under age girls	Botany	May 2021	#9
I don't think it was, but it doesn't matter	JohnSJ	May 2021	#11
I think this is a lot of gossip from the US version of a British gossip rag....	George II	May 2021	#12
Whoa, I didn't see that coming	PatSeg	May 2021	#14
And then there's this...	Quakerfriend	May 2021	#15
Daily Mail is a rag just like the Enquirer in the US	Bengus81	May 2021	#16
Entitled frat boys will be entitled frat boys...	dlk	May 2021	#17

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Mon May 10, 2021, 11:31 AM

Girard442 (5,803 posts)

1. Bill was a saint?

Seems like I would remember that.

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Mon May 10, 2021, 05:30 PM

paleotn (15,278 posts)

19. News to me too.

I've heard he reached "on occasion, a sort of decent guy" status, but sainthood? I remember Microsoft in it's early years. They were far less than nice or saintly.

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Mon May 10, 2021, 11:39 AM

Blue Owl (43,509 posts)

2. Let's hope Bill Gates didn't pull a Matt Gaetz

It's not looking too good for Bill...

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Mon May 10, 2021, 11:41 AM

ForgoTheConsequence (4,746 posts)

3. Not good, William.

Per the Journal, Melinda Gates was “uncomfortable” with Epstein after she and her husband met with him in 2013 and expressed concerns about him. But Bill Gates and members of the Gates Foundation continued their dealings with Epstein anyway, a matter that “still haunts” her, according to the Daily Beast, which first reported the 2013 meeting.

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Mon May 10, 2021, 11:52 AM

OhZone (3,198 posts)

4. Bill is only a saint when it comes to some of his donations -

His company always did some underhanded and problematic things, and even now under different management MS is doing some crazy things like threatening privacy, data mining, and forcing updates just when you need to work. Some of those forced updates screw things up as well.

Oh well.

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Mon May 10, 2021, 05:19 PM

INdemo (6,982 posts)

18. That's why I don't have auto update because

there are certain updates that are nothing but ads downloading into the CPU files. But then which company doesn't do this.
Can't say apple because its on your iPhone up dates Right?

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Mon May 10, 2021, 05:31 PM

paleotn (15,278 posts)

20. Microsoft was as evil as Amazon ever dreamed of being.

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Mon May 10, 2021, 11:53 AM

PoliticAverse (26,366 posts)

5. Looks like the post-divorce PR battle has begun. n/t

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Mon May 10, 2021, 11:56 AM

AllaN01Bear (10,884 posts)

6. hmm

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Mon May 10, 2021, 11:57 AM

Loki Liesmith (4,596 posts)

7. Nearly everyone rich met Epstein

Especially if you were involved in philanthropy.
The brainworms Epstein has given some people are really weird.

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Mon May 10, 2021, 12:16 PM

JohnSJ (86,879 posts)

10. You are right, and even though it is very possible that Gates was only there to solicit money just

for philanthropy, being associated in any form with Epstein is not a good image, and he should have used better judgment

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Mon May 10, 2021, 12:21 PM

George II (67,782 posts)

13. Exactly. Epstein traveled in lofty circles and many didn't know all the seedy things he did.

If there was a fundraising cocktail party that the Gates and Clintons and who knows who else, and they saw Epstein there, would they have turned around and walked away? If they were at an even and Epstein showed up, would the room empty?

Too much is being read into this.

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Mon May 10, 2021, 12:00 PM

Faux pas (13,360 posts)

8. I've

said it before and I'll say it again, if you've been on epstein's plane, you're a member of "the club".

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Mon May 10, 2021, 12:03 PM

Botany (66,715 posts)

9. I hope the Gates Epstein connections were not about under age girls

But I am willing to give Bill the benefit of the doubt until I know more. I also hope this is
not Melinda Gates and or her lawyers trying to hurt Bill in the divorce proceedings.

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Mon May 10, 2021, 12:17 PM

JohnSJ (86,879 posts)

11. I don't think it was, but it doesn't matter

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Mon May 10, 2021, 12:18 PM

George II (67,782 posts)

12. I think this is a lot of gossip from the US version of a British gossip rag....

Epstein was convicted in 2008. She began "moves" back then? I seriously doubt it.

Epstein, like Weinstein, charmed a lot of people and moved around in high circles. Many were unaware of the depth of their depravity until long after their association began. And most of their associations were business, not personal or friendly.

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Mon May 10, 2021, 03:24 PM

PatSeg (44,530 posts)

14. Whoa, I didn't see that coming

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Mon May 10, 2021, 03:25 PM

Quakerfriend (4,825 posts)

15. And then there's this...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9550869/Bill-Gates-biographer-lifts-lid-Microsoft-founders-wild-bachelor-days.html

- though it is from the daily mail

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Mon May 10, 2021, 03:44 PM

Bengus81 (6,610 posts)

16. Daily Mail is a rag just like the Enquirer in the US

I wouldn't put any stock in rags that believe in Big Foot and Gates partying with Epstein unless some real proof surfaces.

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Mon May 10, 2021, 05:13 PM

dlk (10,052 posts)

17. Entitled frat boys will be entitled frat boys...

Even when they’re middle-aged and beyond.

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