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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue May 18, 2021, 12:56 PM May 2021

Businesses will now be forced to post signs announcing they serve transgender customers in Tennessee

Source: LGBTQ Nation


The Tennessee governor has signed the cruelest anti-trans law in the nation.

By Bil Browning Tuesday, May 18, 2021

Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee (R) has signed one of the cruelest anti-trans laws in the nation, which will require businesses and public buildings to warn cisgender customers that they serve transgender people like any other customer.

It is the second bill restricting transgender public accommodations signed into law recently by the governor and the fourth specifically targeting transgender people.

The new Tennessee law requires any “building or facility open to the general public” that allows transgender people access to the bathroom to post a sign that reads: “This facility has a policy of allowing the use of restrooms by either biological sex, regardless of the designation on the restroom.”

“Gov. Lee’s decision to sign H.B. 1182 will cause real harm to transgender Tennesseans,” Human Rights Campaign President Alphonso David said in an emailed statement. “Denying transgender people the ability to access a bathroom consistent with their gender identity is degrading and dehumanizing — and can have real health and safety consequences. Gov. Lee and Tennessee lawmakers are determined to discriminate against the transgender community and roll back the clock on equality instead of focusing on real problems facing Tennesseans.”

Read more: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/05/businesses-will-now-forced-post-signs-announcing-serve-transgender-customers-tennessee

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Businesses will now be forced to post signs announcing they serve transgender customers in Tennessee (Original Post) DonViejo May 2021 OP
I hope this backfires in a big, cultural-shift-toward-the-future way. JudyM May 2021 #1
In Tennessee? Aristus May 2021 #18
Another Republican fueled stupid law. OAITW r.2.0 May 2021 #2
I guess businesses will have to have their customers pull down their pants, Jetheels May 2021 #49
I am so glad I moved out of that backward state in my early twenties. Laffy Kat May 2021 #3
What is it with this republican obsession Turbineguy May 2021 #4
Republican morality: "The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy." Pinback May 2021 #7
aka "Puritanism" ananda May 2021 #19
A bastardized version of Puritanism. Probatim May 2021 #33
Well, with respect to the Republicans who are Southern Baptists LastDemocratInSC May 2021 #13
We need a like button on comments JohnnyRingo May 2021 #26
As an ex-southern baptist you got it all wrong! GulfCoast66 May 2021 #51
What are Republicans doing in restrooms? IronLionZion May 2021 #14
Pecker checkers mac56 May 2021 #16
Ahahahahahahahaha! 3catwoman3 May 2021 #27
Haaaaa Traildogbob May 2021 #37
I guess they have to make it safe for the Larry Craig's out there. Maraya1969 May 2021 #52
A sign like that could drive up business. OneCrazyDiamond May 2021 #5
We can hope. riversedge May 2021 #50
I would seek out those businesses. And maybe that should be a motivating force Maraya1969 May 2021 #54
This seems like one of the least harsh actually ... Hugh_Lebowski May 2021 #6
They should also post a sign that they also serve right wing bigots. rickford66 May 2021 #8
Just say Republicans. Mr.Bill May 2021 #29
Well played rickford66 May 2021 #35
Just cover the window with a ton of stupid signs! oldsoftie May 2021 #41
Whelp Lithos May 2021 #9
Well that's another state I'll never go to vercetti2021 May 2021 #10
Wow, this is some Nazi level shit here. Initech May 2021 #11
Yup! Botany May 2021 #17
Letting out their inner fascist. paleotn May 2021 #38
Who thinks up this kind of cruelty? mahina May 2021 #12
Unless people view it as welcoming to transgender folks IronLionZion May 2021 #15
Next NQAS May 2021 #20
We serve transgenders, Catholics, Jews, Dennis Hastert, and Gym Jordan. keithbvadu2 May 2021 #21
It will ID right wing businesses if anyone cares to stay away bucolic_frolic May 2021 #22
This isn't even my fight and I'm outraged. JohnnyRingo May 2021 #23
Most all of this crap could be done away with if the US treated bathrooms the way they do in France royable May 2021 #24
Seoul, Korea, early 1980s. Large communal bathrooms. keithbvadu2 May 2021 #31
I've been to France 5 times. Multiple weeks at a time. GulfCoast66 May 2021 #53
Make the bathrooms all unisex. roamer65 May 2021 #25
Do you mean single stall or multiple? LiberatedUSA May 2021 #28
Single stall. roamer65 May 2021 #34
In Vermont, many single use are unisex. paleotn May 2021 #47
Am I a bad person because I am too old to want to be in a public restroom with men? Irish_Dem May 2021 #43
The repubes are turning us into Nazi Germany. (nt) Paladin May 2021 #30
The way to beat is to embrace it. If I had a business I'd be glad to have it known I serve ... marble falls May 2021 #32
wtaf? area51 May 2021 #36
I've often thought TlalocW May 2021 #39
The best hope is that all the largest retailers and national restaurant chains immediately post ShazamIam May 2021 #40
That was my reaction. This could backfire in a big way. I hope it does. Martin68 May 2021 #44
Such small-minded, petty people. It's like they completely missed the last 50 years of progress. Martin68 May 2021 #42
You know, every day Bettie May 2021 #45
"Yes, we happily serve transgendered folks!" mainer May 2021 #46
WTF Skittles May 2021 #48
Just don't put up a sign. GulfCoast66 May 2021 #55
I'd rather my wife or daughter be in the restroom christx30 May 2021 #56

OAITW r.2.0

(24,455 posts)
2. Another Republican fueled stupid law.
Tue May 18, 2021, 01:04 PM
May 2021

Just how is this going to be enforced? How do businesses know who is transgendered?

 

Jetheels

(991 posts)
49. I guess businesses will have to have their customers pull down their pants,
Tue May 18, 2021, 07:01 PM
May 2021

and cross check what they determine from that inspection with their birth certificate?

Pinback

(12,154 posts)
7. Republican morality: "The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy."
Tue May 18, 2021, 01:39 PM
May 2021

- to paraphrase H.L. Mencken

Probatim

(2,527 posts)
33. A bastardized version of Puritanism.
Tue May 18, 2021, 04:47 PM
May 2021

Having solved all other problems in the state, they'll be moving on to Unicorn Leash Laws.

LastDemocratInSC

(3,647 posts)
13. Well, with respect to the Republicans who are Southern Baptists
Tue May 18, 2021, 02:35 PM
May 2021

they don't like anything about sex because it reminds them of dancing.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
26. We need a like button on comments
Tue May 18, 2021, 03:59 PM
May 2021

Could spawn a comment of the day post for the most votes.
You win today.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
51. As an ex-southern baptist you got it all wrong!
Tue May 18, 2021, 09:10 PM
May 2021

It’s why Baptist don’t bang it out while standing. It might be confused with dancing!

But it’s all funny and super sad. The revenge of the sexually repressed.

IronLionZion

(45,432 posts)
14. What are Republicans doing in restrooms?
Tue May 18, 2021, 02:49 PM
May 2021

Are they looking around inspecting the genitals of other people in there?

Traildogbob

(8,720 posts)
37. Haaaaa
Tue May 18, 2021, 05:48 PM
May 2021

What we called corpsmen (medics) in the Navy. Especially after visiting foreign ports during 7 month cruises. Lots of peckers needing checked after liberty and alcohol.

Maraya1969

(22,478 posts)
54. I would seek out those businesses. And maybe that should be a motivating force
Tue May 18, 2021, 09:22 PM
May 2021

for progressives when they chose who they do business with.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
6. This seems like one of the least harsh actually ...
Tue May 18, 2021, 01:26 PM
May 2021

All a business has to do is say 'we don't monitor the bathrooms, ergo, we don't have a policy, ergo, we don't need any such sign'. What is the government going to do to them? How would they prove they 'have a policy' that requires said sign?

That's in the cases where they don't want to put up a sign proudly showing that they're inclusive, which is what I would certainly do if I owned the business, and suspect many will happily do so.

I mean these laws all suck, but the outright bans in school bathrooms is much crueler IMHO.

Some rich person should start up a program paying the moving bill and the first/last for people who need to move out of these horrid states.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
41. Just cover the window with a ton of stupid signs!
Tue May 18, 2021, 06:09 PM
May 2021

"we serve Whites"
"We serve Protestants"
"We serve blacks"
Etc etc etc

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
9. Whelp
Tue May 18, 2021, 01:53 PM
May 2021

On the plus side, I now know which businesses I will prefer next time I'm in Tennessee. Though to be honest, i will prefer to avoid Tennessee as a general rule given the obvious bigotry this state displays.


paleotn

(17,911 posts)
38. Letting out their inner fascist.
Tue May 18, 2021, 05:55 PM
May 2021

It must suck to live in a perpetual state of fear and hate. They're sick f'ers. All of them.

mahina

(17,646 posts)
12. Who thinks up this kind of cruelty?
Tue May 18, 2021, 02:30 PM
May 2021

This and choose your execution in South Carolina- awful, shameful.

IronLionZion

(45,432 posts)
15. Unless people view it as welcoming to transgender folks
Tue May 18, 2021, 02:51 PM
May 2021

In many liberal businesses, they'll have signs on single person restrooms like: "whatever, just wash your hands".

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
20. Next
Tue May 18, 2021, 03:14 PM
May 2021

We serve Jews.

We serve Black people.

We serve gay people.

Or, the natural transition. . .

We do not serve Trans people.

We do not serve Black people.

We do not serve gay people.

Even with a major RW court, I don't see this one holding up.


Here's a question.

Do businesses ignore the requirement?

Or do businesses get together and, as much en masse as possible, including as many national/multinational companies with the guts to stand up and be counted, put up bold signs that they serve Trans people, and then keep that list going - all color, all sexual orientation, all nationalities, all religions, all political parties, all genders, short, tall, happy, sad, all Americans, etc., effectively making this vile law meaningless?

keithbvadu2

(36,778 posts)
21. We serve transgenders, Catholics, Jews, Dennis Hastert, and Gym Jordan.
Tue May 18, 2021, 03:14 PM
May 2021

We serve transgenders, Catholics, Jews, Dennis Hastert, and Gym Jordan.

But we don't want the Irish - Blazing Saddles



(Equal opportunity - Dennis and Gym included to attract the right wingers' business)

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
23. This isn't even my fight and I'm outraged.
Tue May 18, 2021, 03:50 PM
May 2021

So now "gay bar" will become the Gay Restaurant, the Gay Gym, and the Gay WalMart unless those businesses want to lose customers. Not putting up signs loses other customers. Their Chamber of Commerce, regardless how right wing it is, should stop this for putting businesses on the spot.

Petty fucking bullshit to intimidate someone "the state doesn't like".

The fact that the state can single anyone out beyond identifying them as a citizen, should be unconstitutional. Fucking hateful morons don't deserve to live with the rest of society.

royable

(1,264 posts)
24. Most all of this crap could be done away with if the US treated bathrooms the way they do in France
Tue May 18, 2021, 03:51 PM
May 2021

and perhaps other places, for all I know. One communal room for men and women with sinks and towels or hand driers, individual stalls with lockable doors around the perimeter of the room for toilets, and branching off from the communal room is a side room, out of view of the main room, with urinals for those equipped with male plumbing. The stall doors reach down almost to floor level, and the walls between stalls touch the floor. Problem solved (I think--correct me if I'm missing something).

keithbvadu2

(36,778 posts)
31. Seoul, Korea, early 1980s. Large communal bathrooms.
Tue May 18, 2021, 04:26 PM
May 2021

Seoul, Korea, early 1980s. Large communal bathrooms. Urinals against one wall but not hidden. Men and women both walk past that area to get to the stalls.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
53. I've been to France 5 times. Multiple weeks at a time.
Tue May 18, 2021, 09:21 PM
May 2021

While I’ve seen the scenario you present a few times it is far from common, in my experience.

Too many really old buildings to reconstruct. Even in Airports there are men and Women’s restrooms.

But I’m not thinking the French gave a shit who went in. Because, as you say, even in men’s restrooms the stalls were their own little rooms. Although the men’s restrooms have urinals. But there are often women in there cleaning while you took a piss.

I’ve used urinals in small towns that were pretty much open except for a wall blocking my mid-body. But my legs and head were in full view. They are just not uptight about taking a piss.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
28. Do you mean single stall or multiple?
Tue May 18, 2021, 04:07 PM
May 2021

Cause it seems all single person bathrooms should be gender neutral.

If you mean multi stall bathrooms, well I think many would have a problem with that and not for sex or pervert reasons.

I don’t think men and women (x a million of you are talking about high school dating age teens) want to take a dump next to each other stall to stall. I remember when I was a teen, I would have dropped dead had I walked out a bathroom stall having just been ripping them only to see a bunch of girls in the bathroom having heard and smelt it all. The feeling would have been mutual.

So that is why I think many people would have a problem with the multiple stall bathrooms being gender neutral. Outside of immediate people you live with, people don’t want to fart and shit around strangers of the opposite sex.

Maybe I am wrong. I have not taken a poll on it, but human nature (at least in America) is to be extremely shy about the #2 function.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
34. Single stall.
Tue May 18, 2021, 05:01 PM
May 2021

A lot of places in MI have them.

But then we don’t enact stupid laws regarding them either.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
47. In Vermont, many single use are unisex.
Tue May 18, 2021, 06:26 PM
May 2021

And most of us don't care what restroom someone chooses to use. When you've got to go...hey...whatever. There's far more important things in life to worry about.

Irish_Dem

(46,946 posts)
43. Am I a bad person because I am too old to want to be in a public restroom with men?
Tue May 18, 2021, 06:17 PM
May 2021

I don't want to see them pee or whatever men do in bathrooms.

I know, I am over the hill for sure.

marble falls

(57,079 posts)
32. The way to beat is to embrace it. If I had a business I'd be glad to have it known I serve ...
Tue May 18, 2021, 04:32 PM
May 2021

... everyone not in a MAGA hat. I'd want it known I do not discriminate on what isn't any of my need to know.

I tend to worry most about people who are concerned and speculative about what others might have hidden under their clothes.

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
39. I've often thought
Tue May 18, 2021, 05:55 PM
May 2021

If we allowed businesses that wanted to discriminate the right to do so, but they would have to fill out a form in order to get a placard to put in their business window or on a wall, they would eventually close up shop. This bill puts the onus on the non-haters, but I wonder if this is going to be another case of republicans rushing into something without considering the consequences because they're so eager to own the libs/codify their hatred.

I can see an LGBTQ group having a big rally where they and allies gather and then split up to go support those businesses.

TlalocW

ShazamIam

(2,570 posts)
40. The best hope is that all the largest retailers and national restaurant chains immediately post
Tue May 18, 2021, 06:07 PM
May 2021

those signs.

Martin68

(22,791 posts)
44. That was my reaction. This could backfire in a big way. I hope it does.
Tue May 18, 2021, 06:18 PM
May 2021

They should also post a sign that Republican bigots are allowed to use their bathrooms, too, as long as they wash their hands afterwards.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
45. You know, every day
Tue May 18, 2021, 06:19 PM
May 2021

shit like this reminds me that evil is winning.

The worst elements of our society seem to be utterly without limits. They get to do whatever they please and there is nothing that we can do to curb them or stop it.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
46. "Yes, we happily serve transgendered folks!"
Tue May 18, 2021, 06:22 PM
May 2021

“And if you have a problem with that, then no soup for you.”

Is what every restaurant should start posting.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
55. Just don't put up a sign.
Tue May 18, 2021, 09:32 PM
May 2021

Every trans person I know would not raise eyebrows using the restroom of their choice.

Fucking tight collar bigots.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
56. I'd rather my wife or daughter be in the restroom
Tue May 18, 2021, 09:53 PM
May 2021

with a transgender person than a republican like trump. A trans person will do their business and leave, like anyone else. Trump is a sex criminal and will grab her by the p*ssy.
If I owned a business, that sign would be 12 feet high, and finish with the words, “we DON’T discriminate”.

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