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Fri May 21, 2021, 03:46 PM

White House proposes smaller $1.7 trillion infrastructure package to try to sway skeptical Republica

Source: Washington Post

The White House told Senate Republicans on Friday it is open to reducing its infrastructure proposal down to $1.7 trillion in the hopes of securing a bipartisan deal, but GOP lawmakers signaled they are still disinclined to support a package carrying that price tag.

The exchange occurred during a private meeting earlier in the day between top aides to the Biden administration and about a half-dozen Republicans led by Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.). The new offer, described afterward by White House press secretary Jen Psaki, appears to mark a decrease from the total $2.2 trillion Biden proposed earlier this spring.

“This proposal exhibits a willingness to come down in size, giving on some areas that are important to the president,” Psaki said.

But Republicans did not appear immediately swayed by the White House’s new spending target, according to two people familiar with the meeting who requested anonymity to describe a private conversation. One of the sources said the decrease is not as steep as it appears, reflecting efforts by the Biden administration to just shift spending to other legislative packages.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/05/21/white-house-republicans-infrastructure/

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Reply White House proposes smaller $1.7 trillion infrastructure package to try to sway skeptical Republica (Original post)
LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 OP
HUAJIAO May 2021 #1
LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #2
doc03 May 2021 #6
Celerity May 2021 #10
Nasruddin May 2021 #14
forgotmylogin May 2021 #18
Evolve Dammit May 2021 #20
EarlG May 2021 #3
HUAJIAO May 2021 #4
Talitha May 2021 #19
Bleacher Creature May 2021 #5
Grins May 2021 #8
The Mouth May 2021 #11
LiberalArkie May 2021 #7
HariSeldon May 2021 #9
bucolic_frolic May 2021 #12
COL Mustard May 2021 #13
ZonkerHarris May 2021 #15
bdamomma May 2021 #16
LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2021 #23
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2021 #17
Martin68 May 2021 #21
LetMyPeopleVote May 2021 #22

Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 03:50 PM

1. Are they really that naive and trusting?

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Response to HUAJIAO (Reply #1)

Fri May 21, 2021, 03:52 PM

2. Not really

If the GOP will not play ball, Biden will go back to old plan and use reconciliation

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #2)

Fri May 21, 2021, 04:21 PM

6. Manchin? nt

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Response to doc03 (Reply #6)

Fri May 21, 2021, 04:56 PM

10. this was the one of the most detailed articles on where he stands, but it's 3 weeks old

If I find a current article I will post it.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/550382-manchin-pumps-brakes-on-biden-infrastructure-plans

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) is emerging as the chief obstacle to quick passage of President Biden’s $2.25 trillion infrastructure package that Democrats want to move through Congress sooner rather than later. Manchin is ramping up discussions with Republicans about what a scaled-down infrastructure package should look like, and some GOP senators are even optimistic that the moderate Democrat can be persuaded to block efforts to raise the corporate tax rate. That means Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) will likely have to wait for the negotiations to reach some kind of conclusion before moving ahead with the budget reconciliation process, as Manchin is expected to be the critical 50th Democratic vote needed to avoid a GOP filibuster.

Senate Republicans proposed a $568 billion infrastructure counteroffer last week. Now, bipartisan talks on a compromise proposal between $600 billion and $1 trillion are just getting started. Manchin wants time for the talks to build momentum. “For the sake of our country, we have to show we can work in a bipartisan way,” he said Monday evening. “I don’t know what the rush is.” “Stay here a little bit, work a little bit,” he advised colleagues. But Democrats are getting nervous about an extended timeline and worry that splitting Biden’s infrastructure agenda into two or three pieces of legislation might mean that a substantial part of it gets left behind. “I’m the most anxious member of the Democratic caucus. I want to get it done and done quickly,” Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said Monday when asked how long Democrats are willing to wait on bipartisan infrastructure talks.

Manchin said over the weekend that he wants to focus on “conventional infrastructure” such as roads, bridges, water projects and expanded broadband internet, and he proposed splitting off about $400 billion in funding for home- and community-based caregivers for the elderly and people with disabilities, as well as billions of dollars for child care. While Manchin said such priorities are “needed,” he added that doesn’t want to lump too many of them in a broad bill because he thinks it would be tougher to sell to the public. His remarks dealt a blow to other Senate Democrats who want to pass as large a package as possible and who called the $568 billion Republican proposal “totally inadequate” and a “slap in the face.” Durbin, the No. 2 Democrat, on Monday said he does not support splitting up Biden’s $2.25 trillion infrastructure package into two pieces. “Time is not on our side. We have so many things to do,” he said. “Immigration, policing. All of these things are critical elements and we don’t have a lot of time on the calendar.” “The sooner the better to keep everything together and move it in a package that works,” he added of Biden’s proposal.

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said he wants to move as quickly as possible, warning that past efforts to negotiate with Republicans, such as on the Affordable Care Act in 2009, ended up wasting time. “We have learned that lesson in the past. I think we should have our ears open, we should listen to any great ideas, any good ideas that Republicans have. But obviously it cannot be an endless process. It has to move very quickly,” he said Monday. Sanders balked at Manchin’s suggestion of segmenting out the home- and community-based care portions of the package. Manchin, however, is praising the $568 billion framework put together by fellow West Virginia Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R) as “a good start.” The blueprint is focused on roads, bridges, transit systems, rail, water infrastructure and airports. Democrats are also nervous about Manchin’s opposition to Biden’s proposal to raise the corporate tax rate to 28 percent, saying a 25 percent rate is more reasonable.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #10)

Fri May 21, 2021, 07:20 PM

14. President Manchin

I wish Senator Biden had proposed a bill more to the president's liking. Maybe next time he'll be more careful.

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Response to Nasruddin (Reply #14)

Fri May 21, 2021, 09:02 PM

18. Who needs McConnell when we've got Manchin pocket-vetoing every bill? n/t

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #2)

Fri May 21, 2021, 09:43 PM

20. Hope you're right, but I'm not a betting person so I'll just go with hope over probability. nt

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Response to HUAJIAO (Reply #1)

Fri May 21, 2021, 03:57 PM

3. I doubt that's what this is about

The Republicans won’t go for this new proposal; they likely wouldn’t even go for THEIR OWN $600 billion proposal if Biden agreed to it (witness their backtracking on the 1/6 Commission after receiving the concessions they asked for.)

This is intended to further demonstrate to voters that one side is interested in negotiating in good faith, while the other side are a bunch of useless obstructionists who don’t give a crap about the country’s future.

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Response to EarlG (Reply #3)

Fri May 21, 2021, 04:03 PM

4. Thanks. I was kinda hoping that was the plan...

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Response to EarlG (Reply #3)

Fri May 21, 2021, 09:17 PM

19. "This is intended to further demonstrate to voters..."

Winner, winner, Chicken dinner!

Joe knows what he's doing.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 04:15 PM

5. This is fine so long as they go back to the original number when Republicans inevitably reject it.

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Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #5)

Fri May 21, 2021, 04:33 PM

8. Screw that. Go for a BIGGER PACKAGE.

Enough of this “bringing us together...bipartisanship” crap. Haven’t Democrats learned anything about Republicans in the last dozen years? So sick of this.

Biden: “What? You don’t like my $2.2 trillion package? Then you are going to HATE my $2.7 trillion package.”

Go big or go home.



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Response to Grins (Reply #8)

Fri May 21, 2021, 06:07 PM

11. Only works if you have a serious majority

The President can *ask* for anything, but without the votes, nothing is happening.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 04:28 PM

7. How about the states that vote against it, do not get any money?

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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #7)

Fri May 21, 2021, 04:46 PM

9. Ha ha, make the money "optional" but...

Set it up so portion for any state that opts out is redistributed among those opting in. Make the Republican mis-run states responsible for the redistribution to the Democratic states, or force them on record for accepting the "largesse."

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 06:27 PM

12. A small concession to the piddling Republican offer

Biden really does understand everything.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 06:47 PM

13. Should've Raised The Demand

And said, we upped our offer, now up yours!!!!!

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 07:46 PM

15. REPUBLICANS WILL NEVER VOTE FOR ANYTHING A DEMOCRAT WANTS!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to ZonkerHarris (Reply #15)

Fri May 21, 2021, 08:30 PM

16. never

GQP always obstructing more loyal to their lobbyists and donors.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #16)

Sat May 22, 2021, 03:44 PM

23. never ever

They're only interested in sabotaging the infrastructure package. Get Manchin in line to get rid or weaken the filibuster to uselessness, and the pass the package on our own. F*ck the GQP. They need to be wiped from the face of the Earth to protect democracy.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 08:35 PM

17. And the GOP balked

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/infrastructure-talks-hit-snag-as-republicans-reject-bidens-reduced-dollar17-trillion-counteroffer/ar-AAKfnKA

How much did these assholes spend on tax cuts for those who don't need it?

Time to move on without these clowns.

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Fri May 21, 2021, 10:31 PM

21. Can anybody tell me why green infrastructure initiatives are not infrastructure improvement?

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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Sat May 22, 2021, 02:40 PM

22. The White House's $1.7 trillion infrastructure plan, obtained by Bloomberg News

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