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oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
Sun May 23, 2021, 11:36 AM May 2021

TikTokers wished a 97-year-old Auschwitz survivor a 'happy Holocaust' as some 'Free Palestine' suppo

Source: Yahoo News

At 97, Lily Ebert is one of the oldest Jewish creators on TikTok. She is also a survivor of the Auschwitz death camp, where the Nazis murdered 1.5 million Jews.

Neither facts were enough to restrain the online mob looking for Jews to abuse on social media since Israel's bombing campaign on Gaza began.

After posting an innocuous TikTok video wishing her followers a restful Shabbat (Sabbath) from her London home, her great-grandson and the account's administrator said she was flooded with "messages of hate."

A "Happy Holocaust," "Peace be upon Hitler," and "Ask her if she thinks the treatment of Palestinians reminds her [of] the treatment she got in the camps" were some of the comments Ebert received

Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/tiktokers-wished-97-old-auschwitz-100100279.html



Disgusting people.
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TikTokers wished a 97-year-old Auschwitz survivor a 'happy Holocaust' as some 'Free Palestine' suppo (Original Post) oldsoftie May 2021 OP
We Jews have received this kind of treatment for centuries AZLD4Candidate May 2021 #1
I'm sorry you've had to deal with this idiocy. oldsoftie May 2021 #37
My wife is a Chinese national going for her Green Card through Consular Processing AZLD4Candidate May 2021 #40
oh, dear. Extra Safety to you both! electric_blue68 May 2021 #61
I'm sure there will be at least several people sarisataka May 2021 #2
Give me a break. ForgoTheConsequence May 2021 #3
I had considered adding a line sarisataka May 2021 #5
Do you believe criticism of Israel is Antisemitic? Happy Hoosier May 2021 #65
Criticism of the Israeli government sarisataka May 2021 #67
I agree completely. NT Happy Hoosier May 2021 #68
Nope, Many Jewish people are being attacked like this and most JI7 May 2021 #7
Oh really? ForgoTheConsequence May 2021 #13
See for yourself Mosby May 2021 #26
An agent provocateur of course! Devil Child May 2021 #28
Look who prints the signs carried in the protests oldsoftie May 2021 #38
Ah yes, there it is. Jedi Guy May 2021 #22
This is a possibility McKim May 2021 #24
Oh please. Look who's doing most assaults in the streets oldsoftie May 2021 #36
The internet is full of people who always need to be cruel Marrah_Goodman May 2021 #39
Disgusting and not at all suprising. Devil Child May 2021 #4
Agreed. Behind the Aegis May 2021 #16
Stay safe Behind the Aegis. Devil Child May 2021 #29
Sick Solly Mack May 2021 #6
Demented ailsagirl May 2021 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author tenderfoot May 2021 #8
Idiots are giving power to terrorist Hamas which declares the Holocaust never happened. Ziggysmom May 2021 #9
There is so much hypocrisy from muslims attacking Jewish people JI7 May 2021 #10
Don't forget their Pride month is a little different than ours. Nt cinematicdiversions May 2021 #25
What I can't comprehend is why American taxpayers are forced to finance Magoo48 May 2021 #11
Post removed Post removed May 2021 #12
Rich Lowry huh? ForgoTheConsequence May 2021 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby May 2021 #27
Even DemocratSinceBirth May 2021 #30
What does that have to do with this discussion? DavidDvorkin May 2021 #31
This isn't about that Marrah_Goodman May 2021 #41
Palestinians live in Israel. oldsoftie May 2021 #42
Soooo angrychair May 2021 #48
Soooo Behind the Aegis May 2021 #49
Obviously not angrychair May 2021 #53
Thank you. I am pleased to hear it. Behind the Aegis May 2021 #57
The Palestinians did the same thing to the minority Jewish populations before 1948 AZLD4Candidate May 2021 #62
So, for the sake of argument angrychair May 2021 #63
I am not getting into this debate with you. It distracts from the real issue of the OP AZLD4Candidate May 2021 #64
"They" don't want it? Happy Hoosier May 2021 #66
Too many do not distinguish between attacking Israel and anti-Semitism question everything May 2021 #17
And the RW wonders why they get called Nazis.... hadEnuf May 2021 #18
There is nothing in the article suggesting all or even most is from RWers. Behind the Aegis May 2021 #19
Praising Hitler and wishing Happy Holocaust Day to a survivor of the horrors of Auschwitz hadEnuf May 2021 #20
Right wing muslims I guess JI7 May 2021 #21
Read the entire article. Behind the Aegis May 2021 #23
It doesnt matter. You've been here long enough to know. oldsoftie May 2021 #43
Gee, am I being too hard on the RW? hadEnuf May 2021 #44
You're providing no proof that is who is responsible oldsoftie May 2021 #50
Yes they do need to be called out. hadEnuf May 2021 #51
Thank you. nycbos May 2021 #32
Well it seems that the right-wingers are the ones that have attacked Soros constantly rockfordfile May 2021 #34
Indeed. nycbos May 2021 #45
Right Wing populism and Neo-Nazism has been on the rise for decades in the US & around the world hadEnuf May 2021 #46
The problem isn't recognizing RIGHT WING anti-Semitism, the issue is the LEFT WING version. Behind the Aegis May 2021 #47
Left wing anti-Semitism is as bad if not worse than right wing anti-Semitism. hadEnuf May 2021 #52
Some people just have a need to be cruel Marrah_Goodman May 2021 #33
People are scum. roamer65 May 2021 #35
The internet is a cesspit and an abuse machine. jeffreyi May 2021 #54
No, it's a window DavidDvorkin May 2021 #56
True. jeffreyi May 2021 #58
People actually expend time and energy to be mean MissMillie May 2021 #55
so terribly disgusting and horrific steve2470 May 2021 #59
Infuriating! 😥😠🤬 Let her live her last years in frikkin' peace! electric_blue68 May 2021 #60

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
37. I'm sorry you've had to deal with this idiocy.
Sun May 23, 2021, 08:36 PM
May 2021

I've never understood this ridiculous "fear' of Jewish people. People who go to work, pay their bills & rarely bother anyone.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,672 posts)
40. My wife is a Chinese national going for her Green Card through Consular Processing
Sun May 23, 2021, 08:44 PM
May 2021

She has a target on her back too.

It's not your fault, but I understand what you mean.

sarisataka

(18,570 posts)
2. I'm sure there will be at least several people
Sun May 23, 2021, 01:18 PM
May 2021

Who say the ire is towards the Israeli government, not towards Jewish people will be along to condemn these actions...

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
3. Give me a break.
Sun May 23, 2021, 01:43 PM
May 2021

This was more than likely right-wing 4chan proud boy nerds. But good job co-opting this woman's victimhood for your own political point.

sarisataka

(18,570 posts)
5. I had considered adding a line
Sun May 23, 2021, 02:14 PM
May 2021

about dismissing the comments to this woman and the others in the article as the actions of right wingers, but I thought that would be over the top.

I need to learn to trust my gut.

Happy Hoosier

(7,277 posts)
65. Do you believe criticism of Israel is Antisemitic?
Tue May 25, 2021, 07:02 PM
May 2021

Just curious. I condemn the hatred directed at this woman.

I also condemn the government of Israel.

sarisataka

(18,570 posts)
67. Criticism of the Israeli government
Tue May 25, 2021, 07:35 PM
May 2021

Is completely valid. While I understand the tactics of attempting to respond to an attack with greater force, I believe not enough effort is put into minimizing civilian casualties.

Attacking Jewish people for the actions of the government of Israel is antisemitic.

I also can condemn Hamas for their rockets directed at Israel's population centers. Likewise blaming all Palestinians for the actions of Hamas is unacceptable

JI7

(89,244 posts)
7. Nope, Many Jewish people are being attacked like this and most
Sun May 23, 2021, 02:37 PM
May 2021

of it is not coming from white supremacists.



oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
38. Look who prints the signs carried in the protests
Sun May 23, 2021, 08:38 PM
May 2021

Look who usually does the assaulting. Some RWers, for sure. Mostly NOT

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
22. Ah yes, there it is.
Sun May 23, 2021, 05:18 PM
May 2021

What's that? People on the left may have behaved badly? Nooooo, don't be silly! Clearly it was right wingers pretending to be progressives, out to make progressives look bad!

That response has long since passed its "sell by" date, but every single time someone on the left may have behaved badly, it gets trotted out again.

Sometimes people on our side of the aisle act like jerks, too, as little as some want to admit it.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
24. This is a possibility
Sun May 23, 2021, 05:45 PM
May 2021

This is a possibility. Who would benefit? There is something sensationalist about this that does not ring true. Keeping an open mind. No mention on DU today of the front page NYTimes story of the misery of living in Gaza. I hope DU does not become a battleground on this issue. I want balance and discussion here.

Behind the Aegis

(53,939 posts)
16. Agreed.
Sun May 23, 2021, 04:15 PM
May 2021

Almost as disgusting as some of the "rationalizations" of this, the "No True Scotsman" fallacy excuses, and the anti-Israel blather in a thread about actual anti-Semitism, usually from people who whine about "conflating" the two issues. As a Jew, I knew it was coming.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
29. Stay safe Behind the Aegis.
Sun May 23, 2021, 06:45 PM
May 2021

Sorry you are having to experience this disgusting behavior being normalized even more.

Anti-Semitism is thriving sadly.

Response to oldsoftie (Original post)

Ziggysmom

(3,406 posts)
9. Idiots are giving power to terrorist Hamas which declares the Holocaust never happened.
Sun May 23, 2021, 02:47 PM
May 2021

Lily knows the truth. So do I. It’s just like the reQublicans denying the horror of slavery and racism. tRump made this kind of behavior mainstream and now the world suffers because of his cowardice and hatred.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
10. There is so much hypocrisy from muslims attacking Jewish people
Sun May 23, 2021, 02:48 PM
May 2021

And I'm not talking about those in Palestine or even just those who are Palestinian.

But people in places like Somalia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia etc. There is so much hypocrisy there.

They say nothing about the attack on Afghan school girls and other attacks on females and minorities in Muslim countries but spew some ugly shit about jews .

Magoo48

(4,701 posts)
11. What I can't comprehend is why American taxpayers are forced to finance
Sun May 23, 2021, 02:58 PM
May 2021

the apartheid-state of Israel? I’m also confounded by the number of so called progressives who support Israel’s slaughter of Palestinians. I do not support the past, present, or future slaughter of any group of people. I do not support theocracies, be they in Israel, Iran, or Anywhere else. I don’t support one group forcing a weaker group to live in massive ghettos, be they pre-WW2-Jews or modern Palestinians. WE MUST STOP ARMING DEADLY CONFLICTS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

Response to Magoo48 (Reply #11)

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
14. Rich Lowry huh?
Sun May 23, 2021, 03:21 PM
May 2021

"Richard Lowry is an American writer who is the editor of National Review, an American conservative news and opinion magazine. Lowry became editor of National Review in 1997 when selected by its founder, William F. Buckley, Jr."

...

Lowry has written three non-fiction books. His New York Times best-selling book, Legacy: Paying the Price for the Clinton Years[8] is a polemic against former President Bill Clinton, whom he characterizes as "Navel-Gazer-in-Chief".

...

During the COVID-19 pandemic, Lowry praised Florida governor Ron DeSantis for his hands-off approach to the coronavirus in a May 2020 column titled "Where does Ron DeSantis go to get his apology?"


Rich Lowry being posted on a "progressive" forum. Which side are you actually on?

Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #14)

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
30. Even
Sun May 23, 2021, 06:47 PM
May 2021

Even if everything you said is true that doesn't justify the attack on a 97 year old Holocaust victim

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
41. This isn't about that
Sun May 23, 2021, 08:45 PM
May 2021

This is about internet assholes being unbelievably cruel to a 97 year old woman who lived through HELL. Where is your compassion?

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
42. Palestinians live in Israel.
Sun May 23, 2021, 08:48 PM
May 2021

And the palestinians can have peace anytime they want it. They dont want it. Israel will never relent to terrorists; they should know this by now. The rest of the Arab world has started to come around. Many didnt even criticize Israel this time. Times up!

angrychair

(8,690 posts)
48. Soooo
Mon May 24, 2021, 03:28 AM
May 2021

You are in favor of Israel beating and killing innocent Palestinian civilians and forcing them from their homes so Israelis can steal their homes and land?

Behind the Aegis

(53,939 posts)
49. Soooo
Mon May 24, 2021, 04:09 AM
May 2021

You are in favor of people harassing innocent Holocaust survivors and others because they are Jewish so people can make a point about the actions of Israel?

Just curious because that is the actual topic of the OP and not a "whataboutism" that started this subthread resulting in the comment to which you asked your loaded question.

angrychair

(8,690 posts)
53. Obviously not
Mon May 24, 2021, 10:21 AM
May 2021

I completely condemn the bigoted attacks on this poor women.

Unfortunately, as is obvious in this subthread, some find it easy to justify Israel's actions by making it about Hamas.

Behind the Aegis

(53,939 posts)
57. Thank you. I am pleased to hear it.
Mon May 24, 2021, 02:53 PM
May 2021

Actually, this subthread was started by someone bringing the actions of Israel into the fray, in a thread about Jews being attacked because of peoples' issues with Israel. What is more obvious in this thread are some who are willing to overlook anti-Semitism and only comment on Israel and its "evilness", others who make excuses for the actions, or those who try to deflect from the actual topic and the seriousness of it, anti-Semitism.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,672 posts)
62. The Palestinians did the same thing to the minority Jewish populations before 1948
Mon May 24, 2021, 09:58 PM
May 2021

and the world made nary a sound.

Each dominate group in the region has done it for centuries to each other. A little historical perspective would be good here.

Added to that, your original OP in this thread was flamebait.

angrychair

(8,690 posts)
63. So, for the sake of argument
Tue May 25, 2021, 01:20 AM
May 2021

Last edited Tue May 25, 2021, 02:33 AM - Edit history (1)

Lets say that is true.
So are you saying that makes it right? Almost sounds like a "whataboutism" arguement "they did it too sooo"

We should evolve and improve. Throwing children out into the street so you can steal their home and then accused them of violence if they act mad about it, is not what I would hope for from an developed nation that calls itself a democracy.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,672 posts)
64. I am not getting into this debate with you. It distracts from the real issue of the OP
Tue May 25, 2021, 02:22 AM
May 2021

Jews in the US being targeted because of Israeli governmental action. . .the Jews that are being attacked could support the Palestinians for all we know.

I'll stick to the problem at hand. . .my people being targeted by bigots performing collective guilt groupthink.

Behind the Aegis

(53,939 posts)
19. There is nothing in the article suggesting all or even most is from RWers.
Sun May 23, 2021, 04:44 PM
May 2021

Not all anti-Semites are RWers.

hadEnuf

(2,186 posts)
20. Praising Hitler and wishing Happy Holocaust Day to a survivor of the horrors of Auschwitz
Sun May 23, 2021, 05:03 PM
May 2021

is pretty black and white / hard right in my book and isn't something I have typically heard from the left as a whole, not to say that there aren't some sicko's or LINO's out there.

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
43. It doesnt matter. You've been here long enough to know.
Sun May 23, 2021, 08:50 PM
May 2021

ANY excuse will be trotted out.
I'm sorry you have to deal with such crap

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
50. You're providing no proof that is who is responsible
Mon May 24, 2021, 06:48 AM
May 2021

Its always the default here; anytime someone does something terrible it MUST be those sneaky RWers acting like progressives because no one on the left EVER does anything disgusting. even though there's rarely any proof thats actually the case.
Its just like the attack on 1/6 was instantly blamed on "Antifa" by the right.
No. There are bad people everywhere and they need to be called out regardless of what "side" they support

rockfordfile

(8,701 posts)
34. Well it seems that the right-wingers are the ones that have attacked Soros constantly
Sun May 23, 2021, 08:30 PM
May 2021

Soros is Jewish and a liberal.

hadEnuf

(2,186 posts)
46. Right Wing populism and Neo-Nazism has been on the rise for decades in the US & around the world
Sun May 23, 2021, 10:02 PM
May 2021

and Trumpism has amplified & emboldened these slime in the last 4 years. Hatred of Jews has raised it's ugly head right along with their other targets as well.

I'm not sure why that is so difficult for some to acknowledge.





Behind the Aegis

(53,939 posts)
47. The problem isn't recognizing RIGHT WING anti-Semitism, the issue is the LEFT WING version.
Mon May 24, 2021, 12:12 AM
May 2021

And, like you, "I'm not sure why that is so difficult for some to acknowledge."

hadEnuf

(2,186 posts)
52. Left wing anti-Semitism is as bad if not worse than right wing anti-Semitism.
Mon May 24, 2021, 09:41 AM
May 2021

Because left leaning people proclaim to be better than that.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
35. People are scum.
Sun May 23, 2021, 08:32 PM
May 2021

Horrible. Horrible. HORRIBLE.

Genocide is NEVER right or excusable WHEREVER it happens.

jeffreyi

(1,938 posts)
58. True.
Mon May 24, 2021, 02:55 PM
May 2021

We've come a long way in some endeavors, like, name your science or technology, and have stagnated or regressed in others, e.g., basic respect for other people, other forms of life, and our natural surroundings.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
59. so terribly disgusting and horrific
Mon May 24, 2021, 04:01 PM
May 2021

Since it's TikTok, I am hoping the vast majority of those hateful comments are from kids under 18 who have no clue about the Holocaust.

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