TikTokers wished a 97-year-old Auschwitz survivor a 'happy Holocaust' as some 'Free Palestine' suppo
Source: Yahoo News
At 97, Lily Ebert is one of the oldest Jewish creators on TikTok. She is also a survivor of the Auschwitz death camp, where the Nazis murdered 1.5 million Jews.
Neither facts were enough to restrain the online mob looking for Jews to abuse on social media since Israel's bombing campaign on Gaza began.
After posting an innocuous TikTok video wishing her followers a restful Shabbat (Sabbath) from her London home, her great-grandson and the account's administrator said she was flooded with "messages of hate."
A "Happy Holocaust," "Peace be upon Hitler," and "Ask her if she thinks the treatment of Palestinians reminds her [of] the treatment she got in the camps" were some of the comments Ebert received
Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/tiktokers-wished-97-old-auschwitz-100100279.html
Disgusting people.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,672 posts)oldsoftie
(12,523 posts)I've never understood this ridiculous "fear' of Jewish people. People who go to work, pay their bills & rarely bother anyone.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,672 posts)She has a target on her back too.
It's not your fault, but I understand what you mean.
electric_blue68
(14,862 posts)sarisataka
(18,570 posts)Who say the ire is towards the Israeli government, not towards Jewish people will be along to condemn these actions...
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,868 posts)This was more than likely right-wing 4chan proud boy nerds. But good job co-opting this woman's victimhood for your own political point.
sarisataka
(18,570 posts)about dismissing the comments to this woman and the others in the article as the actions of right wingers, but I thought that would be over the top.
I need to learn to trust my gut.
Happy Hoosier
(7,277 posts)Just curious. I condemn the hatred directed at this woman.
I also condemn the government of Israel.
sarisataka
(18,570 posts)Is completely valid. While I understand the tactics of attempting to respond to an attack with greater force, I believe not enough effort is put into minimizing civilian casualties.
Attacking Jewish people for the actions of the government of Israel is antisemitic.
I also can condemn Hamas for their rockets directed at Israel's population centers. Likewise blaming all Palestinians for the actions of Hamas is unacceptable
Happy Hoosier
(7,277 posts)JI7
(89,244 posts)of it is not coming from white supremacists.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,868 posts)Post proof. Who was it? Don't be shy now.
Mosby
(16,297 posts)Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Or a Mossad false-flag!
oldsoftie
(12,523 posts)Look who usually does the assaulting. Some RWers, for sure. Mostly NOT
Jedi Guy
(3,185 posts)What's that? People on the left may have behaved badly? Nooooo, don't be silly! Clearly it was right wingers pretending to be progressives, out to make progressives look bad!
That response has long since passed its "sell by" date, but every single time someone on the left may have behaved badly, it gets trotted out again.
Sometimes people on our side of the aisle act like jerks, too, as little as some want to admit it.
McKim
(2,412 posts)This is a possibility. Who would benefit? There is something sensationalist about this that does not ring true. Keeping an open mind. No mention on DU today of the front page NYTimes story of the misery of living in Gaza. I hope DU does not become a battleground on this issue. I want balance and discussion here.
oldsoftie
(12,523 posts)Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,939 posts)Almost as disgusting as some of the "rationalizations" of this, the "No True Scotsman" fallacy excuses, and the anti-Israel blather in a thread about actual anti-Semitism, usually from people who whine about "conflating" the two issues. As a Jew, I knew it was coming.
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Sorry you are having to experience this disgusting behavior being normalized even more.
Anti-Semitism is thriving sadly.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)ailsagirl
(22,893 posts)Response to oldsoftie (Original post)
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Ziggysmom
(3,406 posts)Lily knows the truth. So do I. Its just like the reQublicans denying the horror of slavery and racism. tRump made this kind of behavior mainstream and now the world suffers because of his cowardice and hatred.
JI7
(89,244 posts)And I'm not talking about those in Palestine or even just those who are Palestinian.
But people in places like Somalia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia etc. There is so much hypocrisy there.
They say nothing about the attack on Afghan school girls and other attacks on females and minorities in Muslim countries but spew some ugly shit about jews .
cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)Magoo48
(4,701 posts)the apartheid-state of Israel? Im also confounded by the number of so called progressives who support Israels slaughter of Palestinians. I do not support the past, present, or future slaughter of any group of people. I do not support theocracies, be they in Israel, Iran, or Anywhere else. I dont support one group forcing a weaker group to live in massive ghettos, be they pre-WW2-Jews or modern Palestinians. WE MUST STOP ARMING DEADLY CONFLICTS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
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ForgoTheConsequence
(4,868 posts)"Richard Lowry is an American writer who is the editor of National Review, an American conservative news and opinion magazine. Lowry became editor of National Review in 1997 when selected by its founder, William F. Buckley, Jr."
...
Lowry has written three non-fiction books. His New York Times best-selling book, Legacy: Paying the Price for the Clinton Years[8] is a polemic against former President Bill Clinton, whom he characterizes as "Navel-Gazer-in-Chief".
...
During the COVID-19 pandemic, Lowry praised Florida governor Ron DeSantis for his hands-off approach to the coronavirus in a May 2020 column titled "Where does Ron DeSantis go to get his apology?"
Rich Lowry being posted on a "progressive" forum. Which side are you actually on?
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DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Even if everything you said is true that doesn't justify the attack on a 97 year old Holocaust victim
DavidDvorkin
(19,473 posts)Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)This is about internet assholes being unbelievably cruel to a 97 year old woman who lived through HELL. Where is your compassion?
oldsoftie
(12,523 posts)And the palestinians can have peace anytime they want it. They dont want it. Israel will never relent to terrorists; they should know this by now. The rest of the Arab world has started to come around. Many didnt even criticize Israel this time. Times up!
angrychair
(8,690 posts)You are in favor of Israel beating and killing innocent Palestinian civilians and forcing them from their homes so Israelis can steal their homes and land?
Behind the Aegis
(53,939 posts)You are in favor of people harassing innocent Holocaust survivors and others because they are Jewish so people can make a point about the actions of Israel?
Just curious because that is the actual topic of the OP and not a "whataboutism" that started this subthread resulting in the comment to which you asked your loaded question.
angrychair
(8,690 posts)I completely condemn the bigoted attacks on this poor women.
Unfortunately, as is obvious in this subthread, some find it easy to justify Israel's actions by making it about Hamas.
Behind the Aegis
(53,939 posts)Actually, this subthread was started by someone bringing the actions of Israel into the fray, in a thread about Jews being attacked because of peoples' issues with Israel. What is more obvious in this thread are some who are willing to overlook anti-Semitism and only comment on Israel and its "evilness", others who make excuses for the actions, or those who try to deflect from the actual topic and the seriousness of it, anti-Semitism.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,672 posts)and the world made nary a sound.
Each dominate group in the region has done it for centuries to each other. A little historical perspective would be good here.
Added to that, your original OP in this thread was flamebait.
angrychair
(8,690 posts)Last edited Tue May 25, 2021, 02:33 AM - Edit history (1)
Lets say that is true.
So are you saying that makes it right? Almost sounds like a "whataboutism" arguement "they did it too sooo"
We should evolve and improve. Throwing children out into the street so you can steal their home and then accused them of violence if they act mad about it, is not what I would hope for from an developed nation that calls itself a democracy.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,672 posts)Jews in the US being targeted because of Israeli governmental action. . .the Jews that are being attacked could support the Palestinians for all we know.
I'll stick to the problem at hand. . .my people being targeted by bigots performing collective guilt groupthink.
Happy Hoosier
(7,277 posts)Do you think Palestinians are monolithic?
question everything
(47,465 posts)hadEnuf
(2,186 posts)It's because many of them are despicable Nazis.
Behind the Aegis
(53,939 posts)Not all anti-Semites are RWers.
hadEnuf
(2,186 posts)is pretty black and white / hard right in my book and isn't something I have typically heard from the left as a whole, not to say that there aren't some sicko's or LINO's out there.
JI7
(89,244 posts)Behind the Aegis
(53,939 posts)oldsoftie
(12,523 posts)ANY excuse will be trotted out.
I'm sorry you have to deal with such crap
hadEnuf
(2,186 posts)oldsoftie
(12,523 posts)Its always the default here; anytime someone does something terrible it MUST be those sneaky RWers acting like progressives because no one on the left EVER does anything disgusting. even though there's rarely any proof thats actually the case.
Its just like the attack on 1/6 was instantly blamed on "Antifa" by the right.
No. There are bad people everywhere and they need to be called out regardless of what "side" they support
hadEnuf
(2,186 posts)It just seems to be more prevalent on the right wing side.
nycbos
(6,034 posts)I would wager that most of these folks are left wingers.
rockfordfile
(8,701 posts)Soros is Jewish and a liberal.
nycbos
(6,034 posts)Left wing anti-Semitism is different from right wing anti-Semitism.
hadEnuf
(2,186 posts)and Trumpism has amplified & emboldened these slime in the last 4 years. Hatred of Jews has raised it's ugly head right along with their other targets as well.
I'm not sure why that is so difficult for some to acknowledge.
Behind the Aegis
(53,939 posts)And, like you, "I'm not sure why that is so difficult for some to acknowledge."
hadEnuf
(2,186 posts)Because left leaning people proclaim to be better than that.
Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Horrible. Horrible. HORRIBLE.
Genocide is NEVER right or excusable WHEREVER it happens.
jeffreyi
(1,938 posts)That is all.
DavidDvorkin
(19,473 posts)It exposes what was already there.
jeffreyi
(1,938 posts)We've come a long way in some endeavors, like, name your science or technology, and have stagnated or regressed in others, e.g., basic respect for other people, other forms of life, and our natural surroundings.
MissMillie
(38,546 posts)They must have miserable, empty lives.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Since it's TikTok, I am hoping the vast majority of those hateful comments are from kids under 18 who have no clue about the Holocaust.