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BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
Wed May 26, 2021, 07:42 AM May 2021

John W. Warner, senator from Virginia and force on military affairs, dies at 94

Source: Washington Post



John W. Warner, the five-term U.S. senator from Virginia who helped plan the U.S. Bicentennial celebrations, played a central role in military affairs and gained respect on both sides of the aisle for his diligence, consensus-building and independence, has died in Alexandria, Va., at 94. His former chief of staff Carter Cornick announced the death but did not provide further detail. Because of his willingness to buck his increasingly conservative party, Mr. Warner became the Republican whom many Virginia independents and Democrats respected and voted for. By the time he retired in 2009, Mr. Warner held the second-longest tenure of a Virginia senator.

As a former secretary of the Navy and, in later years, one of only a handful of World War II veterans in the Senate, his opinions on military matters carried considerable weight. His consensus-building on a number of critical issues led him to be known as one of the Senate’s more influential members. As chairman of the Armed Services Committee, Mr. Warner provided critical support for President George W. Bush’s handling of the war in Iraq. During debate on a Democratic call for the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq in 2007, Mr. Warner led the Republican opposition, saying, “What we have on the line is the credibility of the United States of America.”

The next year, however, he broke with the president’s proposed “surge” of additional troops for Iraq, and with his own subcommittee’s recommendation of even higher authorization, a stance that strengthened Democratic efforts to curtail spending on the war.“The reason I’m into this situation so deeply,” he said, “is that I feel that the American citizens have given so generously with their sons and daughters. Have we not fulfilled our commitment to the Iraqi people?” He also urged the administration to give more attention to rebuilding the economy of Iraq. Along with Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Lindsay O. Graham (R-S.C.), he co-sponsored legislation that banned the torture of suspected terrorists and opposed key provisions to the military commissions created to try war criminal suspects at the U.S. Navy base at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.

Mr. Warner frequently went against his party in domestic affairs. He supported legal abortion, although he voted in favor of numerous limitations on the procedure; supported gun control; voted against confirmation of President Ronald Reagan’s U.S. Supreme Court nominee Robert Bork; and urged lifting President George W. Bush’s restrictions on stem cell research. In 2005, he was part of the bipartisan “Gang of 14” that prevented either party from using parliamentary maneuvers on judicial appointments. He was no maverick, though. Mr. Warner supported the three Republican presidents under whom he served — Reagan and the two Bushes — more than 90 percent of the time.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/john-warner-dead/2021/05/26/e1fcb37a-be10-11eb-b26e-53663e6be6ff_story.html

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John W. Warner, senator from Virginia and force on military affairs, dies at 94 (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2021 OP
Sad. He was a decent man. nycbos May 2021 #1
Why no mention snowybirdie May 2021 #2
It's not in the excerpt (because LBN restricts number of paragraphs) but is in the linked article BumRushDaShow May 2021 #3
The AP literally led with that! SouthBayDem May 2021 #8
LOL BumRushDaShow May 2021 #10
Back when there were Lions of the Senate underpants May 2021 #4
Decent guy. May he rest in peace. oasis May 2021 #5
RIP Senator Warner COL Mustard May 2021 #6
Senator John Warner was one of the good Republicans FakeNoose May 2021 #7
He was a gentleman, who genuinely did reach across the aisle karynnj May 2021 #9
I traveled to more than a few military museums and he always seems Historic NY May 2021 #11
He Would Be Chase Out GB_RN May 2021 #12
Sorry The Mouth May 2021 #13
So our current President would be imprisoned? BradAllison May 2021 #15
So you are OK with hundreds of thousands killed The Mouth May 2021 #16
He was an old school gentleman. scipan May 2021 #14
A sailor who served on my ship before my time there said this about Warner Kaleva May 2021 #17

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
1. Sad. He was a decent man.
Wed May 26, 2021, 08:21 AM
May 2021

He served back in the day when you can disagree with with a Republican on the overwhelming majority of the issues but still have respect for them.


Sadly there are a few if anyone like that left in the Republican Party

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
3. It's not in the excerpt (because LBN restricts number of paragraphs) but is in the linked article
Wed May 26, 2021, 08:46 AM
May 2021
When Mr. Warner first sought public office, in 1978, his principal claim to fame was being the sixth husband of actress Elizabeth Taylor, but even that celebrity connection was not enough to capture the Republican nomination for Senate.

At the GOP state convention in Richmond, he finished second in a field of four. The presence of Taylor, or, as she described herself, “a housewife from a small town in Virginia,” in a sailor cap and a red-and-white striped shirt emblazoned with the slogan, “I’m in Warner’s corner,” attracted 100 journalists from as far away as England, plus two dozen Liz look-alikes.


SouthBayDem

(32,018 posts)
8. The AP literally led with that!
Wed May 26, 2021, 10:05 AM
May 2021
Former Sen. John Warner dies at 94, married Elizabeth Taylor

ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) — Former Sen. John W. Warner of Virginia, a former Navy secretary who was once married to Elizabeth Taylor, has died at 94.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
10. LOL
Wed May 26, 2021, 10:19 AM
May 2021


Must. Get. Eyeballs. There's a whole generation out there who has no idea who she is (and she died 10 years ago).

underpants

(182,769 posts)
4. Back when there were Lions of the Senate
Wed May 26, 2021, 08:47 AM
May 2021

Showboaters like Cruz Rand and Hawley would have been buried from getting anything done until they behaved.

I voted for Warner. He convinced Marshall Coleman to run as a third party to stop Ollie North from becoming a Senator. Coleman’s marriage ended because of his run.

Warner was a good guy by all accounts.

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
6. RIP Senator Warner
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:09 AM
May 2021

You really did put Country ahead of Party and for that I, as a Virginia voter, thank you.

FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
7. Senator John Warner was one of the good Republicans
Wed May 26, 2021, 09:47 AM
May 2021

Thank you for serving our country.

Rest in peace John Warner.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
9. He was a gentleman, who genuinely did reach across the aisle
Wed May 26, 2021, 10:16 AM
May 2021

One thing I will always remember is when in 2006, the Republicans brought Kerry/Feingold, a resolution for leaving Iraq to the floor. The Democratic leadership did not want this issue debated as the centrist wing of the party, including the Clintons and Harry Reid, were of the opinion that debating leaving Iraq would hurt the Democrats in 2006. As a result, people like Joe Lieberman, who lied about it and trashed it and the two Senators were given the prime slots to speak.

When John Kerry, rather late at night, spoke he spoke of how there had been no real debate on the ideas included. John Warner, who was then the Chair of Armed Services, asked Kerry if he could engage him in a debate. Kerry accepted. Warner spoke of how there were many good, thoughtful ideas, but that he did not think it was yet time. He then went on a tangent to say that he was Secretary of teh Navy when Kerry was in Vietnam and that he had personally reviewed his silver star and bronze star with valor - and then said they were well deserved. The two men then debated the provisions of the resolution. (I spent a lot of time in DU JK then and it was a common view that Warner had treated Kerry with more respect than many of his Democratic peers - even as they disagreed One result was Warner took one part, a regional summit to help Iraq go forward into the defense bill - though it never actually was implemented. )

In the years since he was in office, his name was on many national security letters (against Trump actions) and supporting many climate change actions.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
11. I traveled to more than a few military museums and he always seems
Wed May 26, 2021, 11:46 AM
May 2021

to be mention or donated items to. He was well respected....

The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
13. Sorry
Wed May 26, 2021, 01:30 PM
May 2021

EVERY person who supported the war in Iraq was and is a war criminal. Every journalist, Senator, Representative who did anything other than protest and fight our tragic invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan should have been in the docket for War Crimes in the Hauge.

BradAllison

(1,879 posts)
15. So our current President would be imprisoned?
Thu May 27, 2021, 11:46 AM
May 2021

....thank God the previous guy was a "non-interventionalist" dove.

Seriously, grow up.

The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
16. So you are OK with hundreds of thousands killed
Thu May 27, 2021, 01:54 PM
May 2021

and trillions spent?

I've voted for the Democratic candidate in every election, but *EVERYONE* who supported that war is unworthy of ANY office in my opinion. Too late now, but not a single senator or representative who voted to invade is any better than a member of the Reichstag who supported the German invasion of Poland and France. Just because we had to get a sociopathic, racist Russian stooge out of the white house doesn't mean I don't think that yes, EVERY politician and pundit who didn't protest and try to stop it is a war criminal. Deal with it.

EVERYONE who supported the war is a War Criminal and should be held to account and reviled in front of the world. I am ashamed that I've had to vote for *any* of them, even if the alternative was far, far, worse. The blood of hundreds of thousands is on their hands, 'D' or not after the name.


Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
17. A sailor who served on my ship before my time there said this about Warner
Thu May 27, 2021, 08:59 PM
May 2021

Warner, then Secretary of the Navy, came aboard the ship and when he entered CIC, his physical presence just took over the space.

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