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Omaha Steve

(99,055 posts)
Sun May 30, 2021, 12:48 AM May 2021

American Airlines extends suspension of alcohol services following Southwest flight attendant assaul

Source: CNN

By Jazmin Goodwin,

New York (CNN Business)American Airlines has joined Southwest Airlines (LUV) in suspending alcohol services on flights, the airline said Saturday. The decision follows a recent assault of a Southwest flight attendant that resulted in a serious injury.

"Flight attendants are on the front lines every day not only ensuring our customers' safety, but are also calming fears, answering questions, and enforcing policies like federally-required face masks," said Brady Byrnes, managing director of flight service at American, in a memo to flight attendants obtained by CNN.

"Over the past week we've seen some of these stressors create deeply disturbing situations on board aircraft," the memo said. "Let me be clear: American Airlines will not tolerate assault or mistreatment of our crews."

Like other airlines, American (AAL) first suspended alcohol sales in March 2020 to minimize interaction between crew and passengers and to ensure safer flights.


Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/29/business/airlines-alcohol-suspension/index.html

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American Airlines extends suspension of alcohol services following Southwest flight attendant assaul (Original Post) Omaha Steve May 2021 OP
Methamphetamines too??? elleng May 2021 #1
About time. Irish_Dem May 2021 #2
I have mixed feelings about it Major Nikon May 2021 #8
The risk of alcohol withdrawal is much lower than the risk of drunk passengers. Irish_Dem May 2021 #11
Those two groups aren't necessarily mutually exclusive Major Nikon May 2021 #14
Or perhaps because they are out of their normal routine, they cranked up their substance intake. Irish_Dem May 2021 #16
Well, heroin addicts can't shoot up in flight either TexasBushwhacker May 2021 #21
Apparently hundreds of people are bullying their fellow passengers on planes. applegrove May 2021 #3
I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue. Mawspam2 May 2021 #4
The only thing worse than a MAGA is a drunk MAGA. PSPS May 2021 #5
I Would Have To Be Drunk COL Mustard May 2021 #6
Maybe they bought the DIY Home Lobotomy Kit that Alex Jones was selling? GoneOffShore May 2021 #7
Always someone to screw it up for the rest of us. JohnnyRingo May 2021 #9
Good Sherman A1 May 2021 #10
Here's a suggestion ... aggiesal May 2021 #12
Still won't do any good. Alcoholics or heavy drinkers are still going to get that drink (or drinks) SWBTATTReg May 2021 #13
I think bars in airports are a big mistake. Marrah_Goodman May 2021 #15
Glad I take the train Hiawatha Pete May 2021 #17
I never thought alcohol on passenger flights was a good idea to begin with. paleotn May 2021 #18
Years ago on a SW flight Javaman May 2021 #19
You should not have had to endure that abuse BradAllison May 2021 #23
I don't know why anyone would want to drink on a plane. LiberatedUSA May 2021 #20
Lock them up, put them on no-fly lists, we put people on them for a lot less than this crap. marble falls May 2021 #22

Major Nikon

(36,814 posts)
8. I have mixed feelings about it
Sun May 30, 2021, 03:27 AM
May 2021

On the one hand it sux that a few assholes have to ruin it for everyone who otherwise drinks responsibly. On the other hand shit is getting out of control and something should be done.

The other side to this is you could actually make things worse. Hard core alcoholics can go into withdrawal and just as easily go ape shit berserk.

Irish_Dem

(45,617 posts)
11. The risk of alcohol withdrawal is much lower than the risk of drunk passengers.
Sun May 30, 2021, 10:25 AM
May 2021

The American public seems to be out of control, alcohol only makes it worse.

Major Nikon

(36,814 posts)
14. Those two groups aren't necessarily mutually exclusive
Sun May 30, 2021, 11:09 AM
May 2021

Certainly drunk people more easily allow themselves to be controlled by their emotions. I suspect many of those who’s cheese has slid off their cracker are experiencing withdrawal of one type or another.

Irish_Dem

(45,617 posts)
16. Or perhaps because they are out of their normal routine, they cranked up their substance intake.
Sun May 30, 2021, 11:16 AM
May 2021

I am an USAF brat and we took flying on an aircraft seriously.
Everyone on board a plane had a responsibility to keep things safe.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,043 posts)
21. Well, heroin addicts can't shoot up in flight either
Sun May 30, 2021, 09:16 PM
May 2021

Alcoholics may be uncomfortable not drinking for a few hours, but they aren't in any dangers. It takes days for DTs to start.

Mawspam2

(705 posts)
4. I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
Sun May 30, 2021, 01:28 AM
May 2021

If you're too much of a lush to not drink during a 4 hour flight, you don't deserve to fly.

JohnnyRingo

(18,580 posts)
9. Always someone to screw it up for the rest of us.
Sun May 30, 2021, 04:18 AM
May 2021

Just like the first guy to drive off without paying for gas, and I'd like to know what kind of awful person would sneeze on a salad bar.

aggiesal

(8,863 posts)
12. Here's a suggestion ...
Sun May 30, 2021, 10:33 AM
May 2021

How about the airlines stop treating us like cattle and remove 2 rows of seats and create more leg space for each row and maybe we won't feel so cramped, stressed or claustrophobic during the flight?
This would minimizing any need for alcohol to releave those tensions!

Hey, we can dream, can't we?

SWBTATTReg

(21,856 posts)
13. Still won't do any good. Alcoholics or heavy drinkers are still going to get that drink (or drinks)
Sun May 30, 2021, 11:01 AM
May 2021

at the bar in the airport, or the bar prior to getting to the airport.

You would think that the heavy drinkers etc. would be more responsible for if they lost the ability to fly, thus affecting their job (possibly resulting in being fired), etc., they would be more responsible.

I hope that the person who assaulted that flight attendant pays in both time served in jail, loses their job, and also pays restitution to the attendant. This has got to stop and one way of stopping this insanity is to really nail the perpetrators civilly and criminally.

Hiawatha Pete

(1,767 posts)
17. Glad I take the train
Sun May 30, 2021, 11:34 AM
May 2021

Traveled over 150,000 miles on Amtrak and VIA Rail Canada, with meal & alcohol/beverage service, sometimes 4 days at a time on the train - and NEVER encountered a drunk miserable passenger assaulting or being verbally abusive to passengers or crew. Everyone on board seemed happy to be there.

What's with these people that can't handle a 3 hour flight?

Pete

(See my travels at: https://northamericabyrail.info/ )

paleotn

(17,778 posts)
18. I never thought alcohol on passenger flights was a good idea to begin with.
Sun May 30, 2021, 11:35 AM
May 2021

Hundred or more people randomly selected, in close proximity, sitting on uncomfortable seats for hours. Lets throw in some booze! What could possibly go wrong?

Javaman

(62,439 posts)
19. Years ago on a SW flight
Sun May 30, 2021, 04:08 PM
May 2021

I sat next to a very obnoxious drunk. She wouldn’t shut up. I had to get some work done. Any time I ignored her she would get pissed that I was ignoring her. I got up and pleaded with the FA if there was any other seat available. None were. I get back to my seat and she must have gotten wind of what I did. She started yelling at me that I was being rude. I hadn’t said anything to her at all. I gave up on work and just put ear plugs one while she continued to rant. I still had an hour to go in the flight. They stopped serving her booze. Small concession. We land and before we could deplane, an announcement came over that we are to remain seated for a moment. Of course this started her ranting and raving again, but I did learn something when she was yelling, “my husband works for SW, he’s a big deal and you’ll all be fired”. The FA came over and asked myself and the other person in the isle seat to get up and move to rare if the plane , leaving the drunk wondering what was happening. It was at that point, the transit police came on and arrested her. The FA whispered to me and the other person, “yeah, her husband is big wheel with SW but she isn’t and has lost all her flying privileges”’. The drunk ranted some more but was balled off.

People can be such dicks on planes.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
20. I don't know why anyone would want to drink on a plane.
Sun May 30, 2021, 09:05 PM
May 2021

I stopped drinking years ago, but it always made me need to pee every 20 or 30 minutes. You get up that much to go on a plane, and you will likely get negative attention and told to sit down and stay or get forced off.

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