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discocrisco01

(1,665 posts)
Mon May 31, 2021, 09:53 PM May 2021

Most Americans think they can spot fake news. They can't, study finds

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Source: CNN

As many as three in four Americans overestimate their ability to spot false headlines -- and the worse they are at it, the more likely they are to share fake news, researchers reported Monday.
The study of surveys involving 8,200 people, which published in in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, also showed Republicans are more likely to fall for fake news than Democrats are.
The team, led by Ben Lyons, a professor of communications at the University of Utah, showed study volunteers headlines presented in the format of how news articles would look if they appeared in a Facebook feed. They were also asked to rate their ability to determine whether stories were true.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/31/health/fake-news-study/index.html

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Most Americans think they can spot fake news. They can't, study finds (Original Post) discocrisco01 May 2021 OP
BS detector and back of the envelope are very important exboyfil May 2021 #1
Good Point modrepub Jun 2021 #19
How do I know this is true? Midnight Writer May 2021 #2
Is the question we start with always mahina May 2021 #6
Hell, I can barely tell The Onion anymore Ferrets are Cool May 2021 #3
Bingo!!! BigmanPigman Jun 2021 #14
Sounds like the psychology this report refers to yonder May 2021 #4
And 100% of (R)'s think real news is fake news ... aggiesal May 2021 #5
This study used the Facebook format and zuckerberg intentionally makes it hard to distinguish. PSPS May 2021 #7
What feature is most problematic: overconfidence andym Jun 2021 #8
for authoritarians the studies show certainty is more important than truth certainot Jun 2021 #11
That link is hysterical andym Jun 2021 #13
but it's true! trumpism greed authoritarianism racism as a heritable 'old world' masturbation prob! certainot Jun 2021 #23
the country is baked in 30 years of coordinated repetition from 1500 radio stations certainot Jun 2021 #9
I THINK this is the research referred to teach1st Jun 2021 #10
The interventions did help people get somewhat better at detection andym Jun 2021 #12
That's not it.... reACTIONary Jun 2021 #20
Thanks! teach1st Jun 2021 #24
I'm more likely to believe fake news, if I'm busy or pre-occupied.... LeftInTX Jun 2021 #15
I don't think left wingers spread anywhere Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #16
When confronted with news, ask yourself some questions: Aussie105 Jun 2021 #17
I love this PSA: the house hippo... robbob Jun 2021 #18
Here is a link to the study. It contains.... reACTIONary Jun 2021 #21
I used to have an infallible way to spot fake news FakeNoose Jun 2021 #22
*LOCKING* Spazito Jun 2021 #25

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
1. BS detector and back of the envelope are very important
Mon May 31, 2021, 10:06 PM
May 2021

Last edited Tue Jun 1, 2021, 09:53 AM - Edit history (1)

Instead of Algebra II a class that combines economics, statistics, and real world business and science concepts would be useful for most not going into science, engineering, or quantitative business majors (and really those folks should also take this type of course). My father in law taught a Freshman Methods course for years at a university.

Well taught rhetoric and policy debate are also two classes that would help with this situation.

modrepub

(3,488 posts)
19. Good Point
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 09:40 AM
Jun 2021

I think part of the problem in education is that we've emphasized math and science while removing "soft" topics like philosophy and rhetoric. That seems to have lead people with an inflated feeling of understanding and the inability to critically analyze things. There also seems to be a lot of people who are unable or unwilling to really step back and analyze their positions in light of new information. They seem more apt to double down and avoid admitting they were wrong.

Midnight Writer

(21,693 posts)
2. How do I know this is true?
Mon May 31, 2021, 10:10 PM
May 2021

mahina

(17,612 posts)
6. Is the question we start with always
Mon May 31, 2021, 11:05 PM
May 2021

Ferrets are Cool

(21,102 posts)
3. Hell, I can barely tell The Onion anymore
Mon May 31, 2021, 10:27 PM
May 2021

2016 changed everything.

BigmanPigman

(51,563 posts)
14. Bingo!!!
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 01:11 AM
Jun 2021

yonder

(9,654 posts)
4. Sounds like the psychology this report refers to
Mon May 31, 2021, 10:37 PM
May 2021

would be related to the Dunning-Krueger Effect: the less you know the more you think you know. And the inverse of that too.

aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
5. And 100% of (R)'s think real news is fake news ...
Mon May 31, 2021, 10:46 PM
May 2021

The result from the his study will be considered fake news in the RW echo chamber.

PSPS

(13,577 posts)
7. This study used the Facebook format and zuckerberg intentionally makes it hard to distinguish.
Mon May 31, 2021, 11:07 PM
May 2021

andym

(5,443 posts)
8. What feature is most problematic: overconfidence
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:33 AM
Jun 2021

The worst at detecting fake news literally con themselves about how good they are at spotting fake news. Remind you of the former guy much?

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
11. for authoritarians the studies show certainty is more important than truth
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:46 AM
Jun 2021

it's a common malady called sex on the wrong brain

andym

(5,443 posts)
13. That link is hysterical
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 01:11 AM
Jun 2021

fake science done right.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
23. but it's true! trumpism greed authoritarianism racism as a heritable 'old world' masturbation prob!
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 10:57 AM
Jun 2021

the book is definitely funny.

but i like the idea of a unified theory of human thought and behavior and it makes a lot of sense, going back millions of years, explaining why 90% of humans are right handed, why most of the violent jerks on the planet are male, why we keep repeating the same violenc over and over etc and of course, why aliens avoid us

and so easy to fix! there's hope - it's not true human nature

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
9. the country is baked in 30 years of coordinated repetition from 1500 radio stations
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:39 AM
Jun 2021

reaching 50 mil a week.

most of the analysts are studying fish without the water. they NEVER poll for rw talk radio

teach1st

(5,931 posts)
10. I THINK this is the research referred to
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:41 AM
Jun 2021

andym

(5,443 posts)
12. The interventions did help people get somewhat better at detection
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 12:57 AM
Jun 2021

Here are the interventions used (modified from Facebook):

“Tips to Spot False News”
Be skeptical of headlines. False news stories often have catchy headlines in all caps with exclamation points. If shocking claims in the headline sound unbelievable, they probably are.

Look closely at the URL. A phony or look-alike URL may be a warning sign of false news. Many false news sites mimic authentic news sources by making small changes to the URL. You can go to the site to compare the URL to established sources.

Investigate the source. Ensure that the story is written by a source that you trust with a reputation for accuracy. If the story comes from an unfamiliar organization, check their “About” section to learn more.

Watch for unusual formatting. Many false news sites have misspellings or awkward layouts. Read carefully if you see these signs.

Consider the photos. False news stories often contain manipulated images or videos. Sometimes the photo may be authentic, but taken out of context. You can search for the photo or image to verify where it came from.

Inspect the dates. False news stories may contain timelines that make no sense, or event dates that have been altered.

Check the evidence. Check the author’s sources to confirm that they are accurate. Lack of evidence or reliance on unnamed experts may indicate a false news story.

Look at other reports. If no other news source is reporting the same story, it may indicate that the story is false. If the story is reported by multiple sources you trust, it’s more likely to be true.

Is the story a joke? Sometimes false news stories can be hard to distinguish from humor or satire.

Check whether the source is known for parody, and whether the story’s details and tone suggest it may be just for fun.

Some stories are intentionally false. Think critically about the stories you read, and only share news that you know to be credible.
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Of course once you are brainwashed to believe Fox News is legitimate, these sadly won't help you.

teach1st

(5,931 posts)
24. Thanks!
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 11:11 AM
Jun 2021

LeftInTX

(25,103 posts)
15. I'm more likely to believe fake news, if I'm busy or pre-occupied....
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 02:24 AM
Jun 2021

If I have time to think things through, I'm pretty good..

I'm an analytical person at heart. There is also too much "meme sharing" etc...Tidbits with sensation, but no substance.

I have a friend who likes to spread fake left wing news because she feels it "helps democracy"

Democrats are just as guilty as Republicans...
How does left wing fake news hurt Democrats? It can make us either "panic", get us "side tracked" or make us complacent...

Sometimes a bit of propaganda is good, but it one needs to realize what it is.
Example of good propaganda: "You better vote or else!"

Elessar Zappa

(13,896 posts)
16. I don't think left wingers spread anywhere
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 03:32 AM
Jun 2021

near the amount of fake news that the Republicans do but it is a problem. We need courses in high school that teach civics and critical discernment of information.

Aussie105

(5,318 posts)
17. When confronted with news, ask yourself some questions:
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 03:44 AM
Jun 2021

1. Do I like/agree with it, does it fit in with my world view?

2. Does it come from a source I'm comfortable with, have looked at before?

3. What is it telling me, directly or inferring?

4. How true is it? Can I verify it by going to other sources, ones that aren't just echo/copy/paste stuff?

Now, don't let 'How true is it?' be influenced by 1, 2 or 3 above.
Verify, look for facts and not just opinions or interpretations.

Radio play, 'War of the Worlds.'
Orson Welles had to apologize for scaring the listeners.

April 1, Spaghetti Harvest ruined!
Complete with people 'harvesting' spaghetti off climbing plants.
https://www.ststworld.com/spaghetti-tree-hoax/

Unfortunately, people are still that gullible. Spin doctors are more sophisticated these days.


EDIT: +1 all the stuff in post 12.

robbob

(3,522 posts)
18. I love this PSA: the house hippo...
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 09:18 AM
Jun 2021

reACTIONary

(5,766 posts)
21. Here is a link to the study. It contains....
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 09:53 AM
Jun 2021

FakeNoose

(32,556 posts)
22. I used to have an infallible way to spot fake news
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 09:58 AM
Jun 2021

When scanning the headline and first few paragraphs carefully, I looked for misspelled words (typos), incorrect punctuation, bad/incorrect grammar, and spellchecker errors. My theory was that a professional writer would always check and correct those things, while a hack or fake news writer wouldn't have the knowledge (or care) to do so.

The telltale signs would regularly turn up to reveal the "fake news" stories, and the publisher of such a story was added onto my suspect list - don't trust anything these guys publish.

Problem is that NOBODY proofreads their own stories any more, not even the professional writers. There are no proofreaders on the staff of even the prestigious news outlets such as NYT, WaPo, CNN, WSJ, you name it. It seems most news story have errors these days and spellchecker sftware can only do so much.

I can no longer rely on my old standby to separate real from fake, and this is from a retired former proofreader and typesetter who is feeling rather useless these days.

Spazito

(50,140 posts)
25. *LOCKING*
Tue Jun 1, 2021, 11:43 AM
Jun 2021

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