Amid drought, Utah governor declares weekend of prayer for rain
Source: Washington Post
Capital Weather Gang
Amid drought, Utah governor declares weekend of prayer for rain
Gov. Spencer Cox pleads for divine intervention as an exceptional drought covers nearly two-thirds of the state.
By Matthew Cappucci
June 4, 2021 at 2:23 p.m. EDT
Amid a devastating drought, Utah Gov. Spencer J. Cox (R) declared this Saturday and Sunday a weekend of prayer, inviting residents of the Beehive State to join in collective and collaborative prayer for rainfall. In a video posted to social media on Thursday, the governor pleaded for divine intervention, noting that current rainfall is not enough.
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Drought continues to engulf Utah, with nearly two-thirds of the state in top-tier, exceptional drought. (U.S. Drought Monitor)
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By Matthew Cappucci
Matthew Cappucci is a meteorologist for Capital Weather Gang. He earned a B.A. in atmospheric sciences from Harvard University in 2019, and has contributed to The Washington Post since he was 18. He is an avid storm chaser and adventurer, and covers all types of weather, climate science, and astronomy. Twitter https://twitter.com/MatthewCappucci
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/06/04/utah-governor-rain-prayer-drought/
By praying we may be able to escape the deadliest aspects of the continuing drought," said
@GovCox
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Link to tweet
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I gotta tell you, I think I'd be trying just about anything myself.
Another link:
Utah Governor Declares Weekend Of Prayer For Rain
June 4, 2021
https://www.joemygod.com/2021/06/utah-governor-declares-weekend-of-prayer-for-rain/
Midnight Writer
(21,743 posts)zuul
(14,624 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)It did not begin raining until much later.
Perhaps doing something to address climate change and better water management might be better than giving it up to God.
My first thought (other than WTF) was that he should get some indigenous people to do a dance to make some rain. But, then that would acknowledge that indigenous people have a power that his precious god doesn't have and that wouldn't work out for him so much. With that said, what a fucking tool.
lapfog_1
(29,199 posts)rain for days coming.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)PSPS
(13,590 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,078 posts)PortTack
(32,754 posts)Throw science out the window..we have a gaaawd
Crowman2009
(2,494 posts)We could relieve you of your drought concerns by transferring excess businesses and people from your state to ours.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)We dont need either in Michigan. Both destroy natural resources enough as it is.
jalan48
(13,856 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,866 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,100 posts)airplaneman
(1,239 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)IronLionZion
(45,421 posts)Grokenstein
(5,721 posts)"Pray in one hand and shit in the other; see which one fills up first."
oldsoftie
(12,529 posts)Urban Dictionary
Grokenstein
(5,721 posts)I posted the one I learned in my youth, long before UD even existed.
The point remains the same.
DiamondShark
(787 posts)murielm99
(30,733 posts)Let people pray for rain if they like. I would be doing the same thing if I lived there.
People are entitled to their beliefs.
Sometimes this place is so childish and catty.
RussBLib
(9,006 posts)just pointing out how useless it is
murielm99
(30,733 posts)But it says more about you than it does about them.
RussBLib
(9,006 posts)I think it says all I need to know about those who advocate for this kind of nonsense. This is pathetic leadership.
Auggie
(31,160 posts)paleotn
(17,911 posts)It's been studied ad nauseum. The affect is no better than random outcomes.
ripcord
(5,329 posts)Native Americans are praying and dancing for rain across the west but for some reason no one makes fun of their ridiculous fantasies.
tanyev
(42,544 posts)Its quite another for the governor of a state to declare a weekend of prayer and act like that will solve the problem.
mdbl
(4,973 posts)It's another bigger stupid thing to vote for morons who don't want to do anything about climate change. That is what they did after the prayers.
FreeState
(10,570 posts)The Mormon Church (the Governor and the majority of Utah are members) held two world wide fasts to stem COVID, March 26, 2020 and April 10. We all know how well that worked out.
Better yet I was told to pray and fast that I would become straight by the church for YEARS. I am still gay.
The Mormon cult is abusive and miss-uses prayer to control it's members. Your prayer didn't work? You must be looking at porn. (Yes the leaders say this among other gaslighting practices).
I have no problem with people praying. I do have a problem with people telling me I must respect it.
Griefbird
(96 posts)as the prayers for the victims of gun violence.
Grins
(7,205 posts)You should ask Rick Perry how that worked out when he was Governor of Texas....
paleotn
(17,911 posts)oldsoftie
(12,529 posts)But maybe after they gather for prayer they could discuss ways to save more water
paleotn
(17,911 posts)then it does hurt. That's how evilgelicals think. Mormons may be different, but I doubt it. It's a complete waste of time when they could be doing something actually constructive.
Jedi Guy
(3,185 posts)Not necessarily. I grew up in a very religious household. One of my dad's favorite sayings is, "Pray for rain all you like, but dig a well while you do it.".
There's no harm in prayer in and of itself. There is harm in praying while refusing to take any steps toward resolving what you're praying about, as you pointed out. There are plenty of evangelicals who think like my Dad does.
paleotn
(17,911 posts)To some, digging the well shows a lack of faith. Thus, they trust God only and wait for the rain. Not saying prayer in and of itself is necessarily harmful, but, if one takes one's religion literally and decide not to dig, but to just trust God, that's a problem. Particularly since there's zero evidence that prayer itself is any better than random events.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"There's no harm in prayer in and of itself."
Unless of course, it's reducing time, effort and money spent on actual policy. Then, as in this case, it becomes problematic. There are plenty of evangelicals who don't think like our dear parents do.
Skoal!
Mr.Bill
(24,277 posts)Those Utah people are way ahead of us, alright.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)So you deserve it.
But the poor widdle God fearing Utahns dont deserve it.
Thats how those christofascist fuckers think.
Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)Journeyman
(15,031 posts)I hope it works for 'em.
Meanwhile, I think we should al conserve as much as we can and keep agitating for new technologies in water management.
Roc2020
(1,614 posts)somewhere around 2006-07. Didn't rain a lot but we got a few sprinkles the same night.
OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)NickB79
(19,233 posts)Fuck that science shit. Carbon reductions and electric cars are for suckers.
Just pray the climate collapse away!
Up next: prayers to refreeze the glaciers, and regrow the rainforest.
It's shit like this that really reduces my sympathy for the residents of the Southwest when the day comes that we have to abandon entire cities and millions of Americans become climate refugees.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Right around the Great Lakes region...
...sort of...
I have been telling people here in Michigan to get ready, people eventually move to the where the fresh water is and we may need to control the influx.
https://freshwaterfuture.org/policy-memo/a-great-lakes-water-war-nestle-the-great-lakes-compact-and-the-future-of-freshwater/
softydog88
(126 posts)Guardians of the Fallacy.
Aristus
(66,316 posts)It doesn't rain: "We didn't pray hard enough!"
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Does that mean God hates Republicans as much as the rest of us?
Permanut
(5,598 posts)Means the prayers weren't answered, for some or all of the following reasons:
- It wasn't in God's will.
- God wants them to be independent.
- The timing is wrong.
- God is telling them to be patient.
- Lack of righteousness.
- Praying for selfish reasons.
- Weak faith.
- Need to be persistent.
- Unconfessed sin.
- An unforgiving spirit.
- Not praying earnestly.
Or, as science has indicated, it could be that intercessory prayer simply doesn't work.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Idiot!!!
rickford66
(5,523 posts)CTyankee
(63,901 posts)when the summer months' heat was bad.
Mysterian
(4,583 posts)as a man-made disaster for the planet. Probably TOO LATE to do anything about it thanks to you idiot moron republicans.
But talk to your imaginary sky-man if it makes you feel better, dumbasses.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)jimlup
(7,968 posts)it would likely work better or at least it would get a good laugh.
This is what Carl Sagan was addressing when he wrote the title of his book:
The Demon-Haunted World
JohnnyRingo
(18,624 posts)I hope this prayer thing works because the next step involves a volcano.
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)any of the Great Lakes water and we're good. Don't want to hear anything about a pipeline.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)None should leave it.
twodogsbarking
(9,730 posts)may work too.
keithbvadu2
(36,752 posts)"or whatever higher power you believe in"
Acknowledging multiple Gods.
Which one would deserve the credit?
tonekat
(1,812 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Michigan voted for Biden and we have had plenty of rain.
Martin68
(22,788 posts)XanaDUer2
(10,638 posts)Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)Springs have dried up. Creeks,rivers, ponds, lakes, and reservoirs are at low volume. Dry creeks that are normally raging torrents from runoff in early spring were trickles this spring, and are now completely dry. "Monsoon" season brought no relief last year
The land is tragically overgrazed, and parched, from high temperatures, lack of rain, and cattle that are/were allowed to graze in riparian areas where no cows should be allowed to go. Wildlife has been forced to migrate to reliable water sources.
When hiking I used to see many lizards along the trail. Now I see none, or rarely, one. The jackrabbits are pretty much gone in our area.
It's really, really bad. We have good clean deep well water. For now. How long that will last as the land continues to dry up is anyone's guess.
It's bordering on apocalyptic.
Comfortably_Numb
(3,801 posts)Lets see who dog likes most.
modrepub
(3,493 posts)I was at a conference in the city about 5 years ago. What struck me was the number of lawns that were only there because of heavy watering. Most of Utah is desert from what I know. It was like the state was decades behind southern California and Arizona as far as folks wanting green lawns in the desert.
If Utah isn't practicing water conservation like other SW US states, they should be focusing on getting folks in the mind set of constant water conservation. After all, the Lord helps those who help themselves.
Stuckinthebush
(10,844 posts)What does this say about their god?
A. It doesn't care about the plight of Utah unless the citizens there raise invisible requests en masse?
B. It does care but needs the magic power of invisible requests to make something happen?
C. It is so disinterested in the plight of humanity (specifically those in Utah) that it requires a lot of invisible shouting to pay attention?
D. It is a psychopathic entity that enjoys the spectacle of a bunch of measly humans pleading for help?
E. It is a minor god with limited power so needs the invisible requests to present to higher gods in order to enlist their help? Damn celestial red tape!
F. It is an incredibly narcissistic god that just wants people to remember that IT is in charge and they need to ask for help?
This is the 21st century and we are still sending up invisible requests to deities to enact change in the natural world. Why not try human sacrifice? I swear...
Oh, and to those who suggest we leave them alone and just let them pray because it hurts no one, I say "baloney". It hurts us all when we have leaders who refuse to look at scientific reasons for climate change but yet just tell followers that all they have to do is pray. It is imperative for those who use reason and science in daily life to point out the logical inconsistencies in religious/spiritual thought.
oasis
(49,374 posts)RussBLib
(9,006 posts)Aw, and they were so sincere.
I guess god doesn't give a shit about Utah.