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Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 03:56 PM Jun 2021

Ghislaine Maxwell objects to raw sewage, nosy guards in NY jail

Source: Reuters

June 16, 2021
12:52 PM CDT
Last Updated 3 hours ago
United States

Jonathan Stempel

2 minute read

NEW YORK, June 16 (Reuters) - Ghislaine Maxwell, the British socialite fighting U.S. federal sex trafficking charges, remains subjected to raw sewage, water deprivation, "hyper-surveillance" by overbearing guards and other unacceptable treatment in jail, according to her lawyer.

Maxwell, 59, is preparing for a possible November trial on charges she procured four underage girls for the late financier Jeffrey Epstein to sexually abuse. Maxwell has pleaded not guilty and faces up to 80 years in prison if convicted.

In a Tuesday night filing, lawyer Bobbi Sternheim said Maxwell was forced to change cells at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn after raw sewage last week permeated her cell.

Sternheim also said guards are still able to read Maxwell's confidential legal papers and monitor her meetings with lawyers, and that neither Maxwell nor her lawyers were allowed water during a four-hour meeting on Sunday.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ghislaine-maxwell-objects-raw-sewage-nosy-guards-ny-jail-2021-06-16/

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Ghislaine Maxwell objects to raw sewage, nosy guards in NY jail (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2021 OP
Hey kiddo, why not strike a plea deal in exchange for a nice prison cell? Auggie Jun 2021 #1
so you are ok with torturing people to get confessions? Voltaire2 Jun 2021 #3
She has been moved to a different cell. Chill. Auggie Jun 2021 #20
Well, in incentivize.. reACTIONary Jun 2021 #21
She's not going to live long if she does and I think she knows it Warpy Jun 2021 #10
Can't stand her but....... hookaleft Jun 2021 #33
Agree - and .... where are all the men who had sex with these underage girls? womanofthehills Jun 2021 #42
she's not wrong Voltaire2 Jun 2021 #2
And the basic human rights of the underage victim's.. diverdownjt Jun 2021 #36
first, this person has not been convicted of anything Voltaire2 Jun 2021 #38
Being in prison is the punishment MissMillie Jun 2021 #39
Agree - but where are the men who fucked the little girls? womanofthehills Jun 2021 #43
Raw sewage objects to raw sewage. milestogo Jun 2021 #4
Real raw sewage actually objects to being compared to her. nt cstanleytech Jun 2021 #23
Gee, I wouldn't be surprised if Ghislaine Haggard Celine Jun 2021 #5
"forced to change cells" after "raw sewage permeated it"? forgotmylogin Jun 2021 #18
Was going to mention the same ... Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #27
Nor would I, which explains the "nosy" guards. Midnight Writer Jun 2021 #25
They are doing it slowly - with bacteria womanofthehills Jun 2021 #44
Hey, shit happens. OnDoutside Jun 2021 #6
++++++ NNadir Jun 2021 #13
It's called poop, Ghislaine. It comes out of our butts. Yours too. Mr. Ected Jun 2021 #7
Spill your story. . .make sure it can be verified. . .plea down and spend your life in AZLD4Candidate Jun 2021 #8
Just be thankful Trump and Barr aren't in charge of your safety, like they were with Epstein. LiberalLovinLug Jun 2021 #9
lesson: think about consequences BEFORE criming - sympathy in short supply afters... bringthePaine Jun 2021 #11
I object to teenagers being treated like sex toys by rich people. NNadir Jun 2021 #12
My thoughts exactly. WinstonSmith4740 Jun 2021 #22
Great Idea DENVERPOPS Jun 2021 #32
What a great idea!!! WinstonSmith4740 Jun 2021 #37
Your idea is better than mine. DENVERPOPS Jun 2021 #40
I hope she is sleeping in raw sewage Marrah_Goodman Jun 2021 #14
We're only hearing about it because she's a wealthy white woman IronLionZion Jun 2021 #15
There is the fact that prisoners are abused, and THAT is nation-wide and an issue... Moostache Jun 2021 #16
Well said (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #28
The rich mother fuckers usually DENVERPOPS Jun 2021 #41
I agree with all those above about MuseRider Jun 2021 #17
Well... Mike Nelson Jun 2021 #19
Calling the kettle black? LiberalFighter Jun 2021 #24
Gee. It's a shame she smells raw sewage, but shes in the cell with a child-sex trafficer. Herself. marble falls Jun 2021 #26
Don't torture her. Keep her healthy so she can testify! truthisfreedom Jun 2021 #29
Depriving people of water is something you might see womanofthehills Jun 2021 #30
Ghislaine Maxwell still doesn't get it! Aussie105 Jun 2021 #31
Hey, maxwell, joshdawg Jun 2021 #34
if she testified , the TFG would have a massive bowl movement!!! monkeyman1 Jun 2021 #35
Jail is nothing to be fucked up with. SoFlaBro Jun 2021 #45

Auggie

(31,133 posts)
1. Hey kiddo, why not strike a plea deal in exchange for a nice prison cell?
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 04:02 PM
Jun 2021

Tell us all about Mr. Epstein and his friend Donald ...

Warpy

(111,163 posts)
10. She's not going to live long if she does and I think she knows it
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 04:43 PM
Jun 2021

Remember, Epsteiin courted the rich and powerful planet wide. They easily got to Epstein before he talked.

TBH, I'm surprised she's still alive and complaining.

She's got a point about the raw sewage and rusty water. That should be addressed. The nosy guards are just doing their jobs.

womanofthehills

(8,661 posts)
42. Agree - and .... where are all the men who had sex with these underage girls?
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 09:29 PM
Jun 2021

Are they living the good life? Rodent droppings, sewage, no water stuff - is someone trying to kill her with bacteria or a bad kidney infection? It was JUST a natural death!! I read many jails are not air conditioned.


Voltaire2

(12,963 posts)
2. she's not wrong
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 04:07 PM
Jun 2021

our prisons are horrible by intention and are frequently in violation of basic human rights.

diverdownjt

(701 posts)
36. And the basic human rights of the underage victim's..
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 06:11 AM
Jun 2021

whose lives are ruined. If you don't like prison don't fuck little girls and boys.

I didn't think we needed to make that point again but OK.

Voltaire2

(12,963 posts)
38. first, this person has not been convicted of anything
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 09:58 AM
Jun 2021

so why is it ok to inflict torture on people who have not been convicted of any crime?

Second, whatever you think of 'people who fuck children', (and Maxwell is not accused of fucking any children,) why do you think it is appropriate to torture criminals? What is the objective? How is that going to improve society?

womanofthehills

(8,661 posts)
43. Agree - but where are the men who fucked the little girls?
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 09:31 PM
Jun 2021

Out on their yachts I guess. She must have tons of info - why is it not coming out?

Haggard Celine

(16,835 posts)
5. Gee, I wouldn't be surprised if Ghislaine
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 04:14 PM
Jun 2021

commits suicide, too. Due to the strain of being in jail, you know. Wink wink.

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
18. "forced to change cells" after "raw sewage permeated it"?
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 05:22 PM
Jun 2021

Last edited Thu Jun 17, 2021, 09:33 AM - Edit history (1)

I am against inhumane treatment of anyone, but this very much sounds like an overblown Karen-style description of her in-cell toilet clogging and overflowing and they moved her to another one because of it. At least they moved her.

And heightened scrutiny is for her own safety since Epstein suicided or "was suicided".

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
27. Was going to mention the same ...
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 06:58 PM
Jun 2021

Her legal papers and lawyer meetings should however be allowed to be private, and denying herself and lawyers water for 4 hours is out of line (if true).

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
7. It's called poop, Ghislaine. It comes out of our butts. Yours too.
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 04:22 PM
Jun 2021

You're subjected to it until you yank on the chain, and then it disappears.

It must be confusing to live the life of a predator billionaire one day and wiping with woody brown toilet paper in jail the next.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,639 posts)
8. Spill your story. . .make sure it can be verified. . .plea down and spend your life in
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 04:26 PM
Jun 2021

Club Fed. Your choice, buttercup.

NNadir

(33,475 posts)
12. I object to teenagers being treated like sex toys by rich people.
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 05:09 PM
Jun 2021

Compared to that, a little sewage is less bothersome.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,055 posts)
22. My thoughts exactly.
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 05:48 PM
Jun 2021

I'll bet those underage girls objected to what was happening to them, too. Are we supposed to feel sorry for her?

DENVERPOPS

(8,790 posts)
32. Great Idea
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 09:16 PM
Jun 2021

Let's put her in a big room with all the mothers of all the countless number of girls they made their sex toys for not only their enjoyment but many other uber wealthy pedophiles..........

WinstonSmith4740

(3,055 posts)
37. What a great idea!!!
Thu Jun 17, 2021, 08:51 AM
Jun 2021

I like the way you think!! The punishment should always fit the crime. This would be perfect. Do you think putting their fathers in there also would be going over the top? I know my dad would have torn her throat out with his bare hands.

DENVERPOPS

(8,790 posts)
40. Your idea is better than mine.
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 07:50 PM
Jun 2021

If one had been my daughter, I would be spending the rest of my life in prison.
Of course if there were any jurors that had a daughter, I would have been judged not guilty!!!!!!!!!!!!

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
15. We're only hearing about it because she's a wealthy white woman
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 05:13 PM
Jun 2021

Prison reform is needed if people are being treated inhumanely, but she's not a very sympathetic character.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
16. There is the fact that prisoners are abused, and THAT is nation-wide and an issue...
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 05:21 PM
Jun 2021

Then there is a whiny-ass billionaire's whore complaining about the smells and inconveniences of being a prisoner awaiting trial for some really heinous crimes. She is innocent until proven guilty, and thus entitled to humane treatment - as are ALL other prisoners.

If her petition was for improved jail conditions for ALL prisoners, she would have my attention and my support for the cause...if her petition is only for poor wittle Ghislaine, my reaction is a lot different.

Human treatment for all prisoners.
Special treatment for none...especially the rich motherfuckers that finally end up there.

DENVERPOPS

(8,790 posts)
41. The rich mother fuckers usually
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 07:54 PM
Jun 2021

end up at "Camp Cupcake", not in a real prison or ever in the general population at a real prison......

That is, of course, if they even get charged in the first place.........

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
17. I agree with all those above about
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 05:22 PM
Jun 2021

the need to fix our prisons, the prisoners should not be subjected to those horrible things like sewage and thirst etc.

I find it odd that someone who is in jail for procuring young, underage girls for sweaty, disgusting old rich dudes to fuck without consent or even knowledge of what is happening to them would have the nerve to complain about the conditions she is now living in. Overbearing prison guards? As long as someone is not holding you down and molesting you I think you still have it pretty cushy there. Maybe you should spend some time thinking about what you put those girls through.

Mike Nelson

(9,944 posts)
19. Well...
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 05:30 PM
Jun 2021

... they have to have guards; it's prison! She probably requires "overbearing" guards, for her own safety. I think the sewage problem can be fixed by the prison plumber. If that's a problem in this prison, it might be a good job for Ms. Maxwell. Finally, about the water... I think she should be provided with as much as she needs. We don't deprive people of food and water. I would make sure the faucet works.

womanofthehills

(8,661 posts)
30. Depriving people of water is something you might see
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 07:14 PM
Jun 2021

In a 3rd world country with a dictator. If this is true, the person who initiated it needs to be fired & dealt with.

Aussie105

(5,334 posts)
31. Ghislaine Maxwell still doesn't get it!
Wed Jun 16, 2021, 08:23 PM
Jun 2021

Smell and thirst are bad in her eyes?
No respect for her privacy?
Something to complain about!

Depriving teenage girls of their childhood innocence, of their trust in adults, and leaving them with lifelong trust and relationship problems is fine with her?
'Just my job at the time, that was' she might say, 'But this stuff in jail is PERSONAL!'

May she be inconvenienced like this for a very long time!

SoFlaBro

(1,914 posts)
45. Jail is nothing to be fucked up with.
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 10:02 PM
Jun 2021

I am surprised she has lasted this long in jail. Jail is worse than you imagine.

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