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Tue Jun 22, 2021, 03:10 PM

A coronavirus outbreak hit a Florida government building. Two people are dead but not vaccinated...

Source: CNN

Two people are dead and four of their coworkers were hospitalized after a Covid-19 outbreak swept through a government building in Manatee County, Florida.

The outbreak began in the IT department, according to Manatee County Administrator Scott Hopes, who is also an epidemiologist. Another person who worked on the same floor but in a different department also tested positive for coronavirus last week.

Of the six people infected, five were hospitalized. One employee who was in the hospital died and another employee who was not hospitalized also died, Hopes told CNN's Erin Burnett.

The only exposed employee in the IT office who was vaccinated did not get infected, Hopes said.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/22/us/florida-manatee-county-coronavirus-outbreak/index.html



It is amazing how Florida is sticking to its guns and not requiring masks even following a deadly outbreak.

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Reply A coronavirus outbreak hit a Florida government building. Two people are dead but not vaccinated... (Original post)
TomCADem Jun 2021 OP
ampm Jun 2021 #1
Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #9
lucca18 Jun 2021 #10
LymphocyteLover Jun 2021 #16
spike jones Jun 2021 #15
gohuskies Jun 2021 #2
TomCADem Jun 2021 #8
Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #18
progree Jun 2021 #22
Lovie777 Jun 2021 #3
wnylib Jun 2021 #13
LisaL Jun 2021 #27
NBachers Jun 2021 #4
Warpy Jun 2021 #5
NH Ethylene Jun 2021 #19
Warpy Jun 2021 #21
NH Ethylene Jun 2021 #24
LisaL Jun 2021 #26
Warpy Jun 2021 #28
bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #6
Demnation Jun 2021 #7
sinkingfeeling Jun 2021 #11
mountain grammy Jun 2021 #23
bringthePaine Jun 2021 #12
Cetacea Jun 2021 #25
Historic NY Jun 2021 #14
FakeNoose Jun 2021 #17
CountAllVotes Jun 2021 #20

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 03:19 PM

1. Nevada checking in

My grandson moved to South Carolina a few years back has changed so much he's also against the vac. He knows how I feel about it and I'm worried but he's an adult but dumb in fact of life matters

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Response to ampm (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 05:16 PM

9. It's amazing how hanging with peers can overide all logic, common sense, advice, etc.

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Response to ampm (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 05:20 PM

10. I have a nephew who feels the same way.

He is against the vaccine and makes fun of people that get vaccinated.
It is really sad.
He has two young children, and you would think he would want them protected.

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Response to lucca18 (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 07:09 PM

16. it's so disturbing so many people have bought into that nonsense

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Response to ampm (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 06:15 PM

15. I was raised in SC. The society there is toxic. I escaped just after college in 1966.

I would encourage your grandson to get out as soon as possible and by any means necessary.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 03:24 PM

2. Florida is DeathSentence's attempt to manipulate Natural Selection

That state is headed for serious trouble in the coming months with their blind embrace and rush into anti-vax land. Lots more covid spread and death will hit that state in upcoming months.

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Response to gohuskies (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 04:48 PM

8. John Hopkins Reports That There Are Zero Cases In Florida

So, something is not adding up or DeSantis is spiking the testing numbers again.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/tracker/overview

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Response to TomCADem (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 07:49 PM

18. Nothing suspicious there, JFC

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Response to TomCADem (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 11:05 PM

22. NYTimes has FL 7th highest state in daily new cases per capita, 7 day moving average

and that 7 day average is a 2% decline from the 7 day average ending 2 weeks ago. That it's declining sounds nice and wonderful and all that, but it's the 8th worst state as far as changing rates (6 states are increasing, and one state is declining less, a 1% decline)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

1,476 daily average new cases (7 per 100,000)

Fully vaxxed: 44% (U.S. average is 45%)

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 03:24 PM

3. Wonder if it was the Delta variant . . ...

Outbreaks of COVID-19 is slowly going back up mainly because of the unvaccinated. Shouldn't this be a clue to the anti-vaxxers? My guess is no.

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Response to Lovie777 (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 05:46 PM

13. The delta variant was my first thought, too, because

so many of them were so seriously ill so quickly, with two of them dying.

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Response to Lovie777 (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 06:21 AM

27. I am assuming it is.

It seems a lot worse than the original covid. I am surprise how low the vaccination rate was in that office. One person out of six was vaccinated. The rest are paying the price.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 03:43 PM

4. No vaccination should mean no taxpayer help with medical expenses.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 04:04 PM

5. Jeez, more bad medical reporting

The vaccinated employee got infected along with everybody else. The difference is that vaccination jumpstarts the immune system, so the person doesn't get ill. It takes the immune system about 2 weeks to mount an effective defense against a new virus like Covid. That's plenty of time for it to kill.

Do vaccinated people shed live virus? It's unlikely, the immune system slaps it down too quickly for there to be enough live virus to cause disease in them or anyone else.

It looks like the building manager is doing his best, he's just working against a total dunce named De Santis.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 08:15 PM

19. Thanks for clarifying that.

If the rest of the info is true, that sure is a very high rate of serious disease! Five out of six (unvaccinated) people hospitalized or dead? No wonder India was decimated (assuming it is the delta variant).

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Response to NH Ethylene (Reply #19)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 09:58 PM

21. Um, that would make it worse than SARS or MERS

and that is simply not the case. You can't extrapolate from one small area to the population at large.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #21)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 11:46 PM

24. Obviously.

I'm not an idiot.

The odds of someone in their 50s who is infected with Covid being sick enough to be hospitalized is said to be 8 percent. So the odds of 5 of just 6 people getting seriously ill would be (if I calculated it correctly) 0.0003 percent. Not zero though.

Still, to suggest that the delta variant is more deadly than the other versions after making this observation (not to mention that it was stated to be so by the WHO, who called it the "fastest and fittest coronavirus strain" is not out of line.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 06:19 AM

26. I haven't seen any reports suggesting that a vaccinated employee was infected.

Out of six people in the IT office, five got infected, and 2 of those died (the rest are in the hospital). One more employee (not in the IT department) also got infected and is in the hospital. The only one not infected was the vaccinated employee.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #26)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 01:03 PM

28. Look up the medical definitions

I expect civilians to get confused. People who call themselves medical reporters need to learn the proper terms.

Bottom line, that whole office was infected. Only the person who had been vaccinated didn't get ill. Vaccines allow a rapid immune system response for that particular virus. However, infection does occur, infection signaling the immune system to mount a rapid defense. Without the vaccine, it takes about 2 weeks to mount an effective immune response. We have no immunity to this virus, not even if we've had coronavirus common colds in the past. Vaccinated people who inhale virus will get infected. The immune response will limit the infection quickly and prevent the person from becoming ill.

Bottom line, get the shots. They're not 100%, but they are out best chance for not dying from this.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 04:21 PM

6. At least they avoided microchips and magnetic forks in their heads

They might not have fit in their coffins.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 04:39 PM

7. Without the double-jab you can run but you can't hide. Just a matter of time.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 05:37 PM

11. Don't know why CNN thinks this is breaking news. I read about that a week ago right here on DU.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 11:32 PM

23. Yeah saw it on Twitter... the 18th of June.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 05:39 PM

12. triple word score: Floriduh, Floridumb, Floridead

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Response to bringthePaine (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 23, 2021, 03:30 AM

25. Democrats outnumber republicans in Florida

Have at it if you must.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 06:04 PM

14. Well Deadsantis is kiling his employees now...

along with his IT dept.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 07:29 PM

17. This is mere speculation on my part

... but aren't IT people (who run computer networks in most organizations) more likely to skew libertarian/ultra-conservative?

I've only known a few IT people in my travels, but the ones I've known have been politically conservative and/or leaning libertarian. But maybe I'm wrong.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Tue Jun 22, 2021, 08:21 PM

20. As the old saying goes ...

Stupid is as stupid does!

STUPID!!

Wake the hell up would you Florida!!!



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