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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 03:10 PM Jun 2021

A coronavirus outbreak hit a Florida government building. Two people are dead but not vaccinated...

Source: CNN

Two people are dead and four of their coworkers were hospitalized after a Covid-19 outbreak swept through a government building in Manatee County, Florida.

The outbreak began in the IT department, according to Manatee County Administrator Scott Hopes, who is also an epidemiologist. Another person who worked on the same floor but in a different department also tested positive for coronavirus last week.

Of the six people infected, five were hospitalized. One employee who was in the hospital died and another employee who was not hospitalized also died, Hopes told CNN's Erin Burnett.

The only exposed employee in the IT office who was vaccinated did not get infected, Hopes said.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/22/us/florida-manatee-county-coronavirus-outbreak/index.html



It is amazing how Florida is sticking to its guns and not requiring masks even following a deadly outbreak.
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A coronavirus outbreak hit a Florida government building. Two people are dead but not vaccinated... (Original Post) TomCADem Jun 2021 OP
Nevada checking in ampm Jun 2021 #1
It's amazing how hanging with peers can overide all logic, common sense, advice, etc. Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #9
I have a nephew who feels the same way. lucca18 Jun 2021 #10
it's so disturbing so many people have bought into that nonsense LymphocyteLover Jun 2021 #16
I was raised in SC. The society there is toxic. I escaped just after college in 1966. spike jones Jun 2021 #15
Florida is DeathSentence's attempt to manipulate Natural Selection gohuskies Jun 2021 #2
John Hopkins Reports That There Are Zero Cases In Florida TomCADem Jun 2021 #8
Nothing suspicious there, JFC Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #18
NYTimes has FL 7th highest state in daily new cases per capita, 7 day moving average progree Jun 2021 #22
Wonder if it was the Delta variant . . ... Lovie777 Jun 2021 #3
The delta variant was my first thought, too, because wnylib Jun 2021 #13
I am assuming it is. LisaL Jun 2021 #27
No vaccination should mean no taxpayer help with medical expenses. NBachers Jun 2021 #4
Jeez, more bad medical reporting Warpy Jun 2021 #5
Thanks for clarifying that. NH Ethylene Jun 2021 #19
Um, that would make it worse than SARS or MERS Warpy Jun 2021 #21
Obviously. NH Ethylene Jun 2021 #24
I haven't seen any reports suggesting that a vaccinated employee was infected. LisaL Jun 2021 #26
Look up the medical definitions Warpy Jun 2021 #28
At least they avoided microchips and magnetic forks in their heads bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #6
Without the double-jab you can run but you can't hide. Just a matter of time. Demnation Jun 2021 #7
Don't know why CNN thinks this is breaking news. I read about that a week ago right here on DU. sinkingfeeling Jun 2021 #11
Yeah saw it on Twitter... the 18th of June. mountain grammy Jun 2021 #23
triple word score: Floriduh, Floridumb, Floridead bringthePaine Jun 2021 #12
Democrats outnumber republicans in Florida Cetacea Jun 2021 #25
Well Deadsantis is kiling his employees now... Historic NY Jun 2021 #14
This is mere speculation on my part FakeNoose Jun 2021 #17
As the old saying goes ... CountAllVotes Jun 2021 #20

ampm

(301 posts)
1. Nevada checking in
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 03:19 PM
Jun 2021

My grandson moved to South Carolina a few years back has changed so much he's also against the vac. He knows how I feel about it and I'm worried but he's an adult but dumb in fact of life matters

lucca18

(1,241 posts)
10. I have a nephew who feels the same way.
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 05:20 PM
Jun 2021

He is against the vaccine and makes fun of people that get vaccinated.
It is really sad.
He has two young children, and you would think he would want them protected.

spike jones

(1,678 posts)
15. I was raised in SC. The society there is toxic. I escaped just after college in 1966.
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 06:15 PM
Jun 2021

I would encourage your grandson to get out as soon as possible and by any means necessary.

gohuskies

(1,156 posts)
2. Florida is DeathSentence's attempt to manipulate Natural Selection
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 03:24 PM
Jun 2021

That state is headed for serious trouble in the coming months with their blind embrace and rush into anti-vax land. Lots more covid spread and death will hit that state in upcoming months.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
8. John Hopkins Reports That There Are Zero Cases In Florida
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 04:48 PM
Jun 2021

So, something is not adding up or DeSantis is spiking the testing numbers again.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/tracker/overview

progree

(10,901 posts)
22. NYTimes has FL 7th highest state in daily new cases per capita, 7 day moving average
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 11:05 PM
Jun 2021

and that 7 day average is a 2% decline from the 7 day average ending 2 weeks ago. That it's declining sounds nice and wonderful and all that, but it's the 8th worst state as far as changing rates (6 states are increasing, and one state is declining less, a 1% decline)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

1,476 daily average new cases (7 per 100,000)

Fully vaxxed: 44% (U.S. average is 45%)

Lovie777

(12,237 posts)
3. Wonder if it was the Delta variant . . ...
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 03:24 PM
Jun 2021

Outbreaks of COVID-19 is slowly going back up mainly because of the unvaccinated. Shouldn't this be a clue to the anti-vaxxers? My guess is no.

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
13. The delta variant was my first thought, too, because
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 05:46 PM
Jun 2021

so many of them were so seriously ill so quickly, with two of them dying.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
27. I am assuming it is.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 06:21 AM
Jun 2021

It seems a lot worse than the original covid. I am surprise how low the vaccination rate was in that office. One person out of six was vaccinated. The rest are paying the price.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
5. Jeez, more bad medical reporting
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 04:04 PM
Jun 2021

The vaccinated employee got infected along with everybody else. The difference is that vaccination jumpstarts the immune system, so the person doesn't get ill. It takes the immune system about 2 weeks to mount an effective defense against a new virus like Covid. That's plenty of time for it to kill.

Do vaccinated people shed live virus? It's unlikely, the immune system slaps it down too quickly for there to be enough live virus to cause disease in them or anyone else.

It looks like the building manager is doing his best, he's just working against a total dunce named De Santis.

NH Ethylene

(30,809 posts)
19. Thanks for clarifying that.
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 08:15 PM
Jun 2021

If the rest of the info is true, that sure is a very high rate of serious disease! Five out of six (unvaccinated) people hospitalized or dead? No wonder India was decimated (assuming it is the delta variant).

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
21. Um, that would make it worse than SARS or MERS
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 09:58 PM
Jun 2021

and that is simply not the case. You can't extrapolate from one small area to the population at large.

NH Ethylene

(30,809 posts)
24. Obviously.
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 11:46 PM
Jun 2021

I'm not an idiot.

The odds of someone in their 50s who is infected with Covid being sick enough to be hospitalized is said to be 8 percent. So the odds of 5 of just 6 people getting seriously ill would be (if I calculated it correctly) 0.0003 percent. Not zero though.

Still, to suggest that the delta variant is more deadly than the other versions after making this observation (not to mention that it was stated to be so by the WHO, who called it the "fastest and fittest coronavirus strain&quot is not out of line.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
26. I haven't seen any reports suggesting that a vaccinated employee was infected.
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 06:19 AM
Jun 2021

Out of six people in the IT office, five got infected, and 2 of those died (the rest are in the hospital). One more employee (not in the IT department) also got infected and is in the hospital. The only one not infected was the vaccinated employee.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
28. Look up the medical definitions
Wed Jun 23, 2021, 01:03 PM
Jun 2021

I expect civilians to get confused. People who call themselves medical reporters need to learn the proper terms.

Bottom line, that whole office was infected. Only the person who had been vaccinated didn't get ill. Vaccines allow a rapid immune system response for that particular virus. However, infection does occur, infection signaling the immune system to mount a rapid defense. Without the vaccine, it takes about 2 weeks to mount an effective immune response. We have no immunity to this virus, not even if we've had coronavirus common colds in the past. Vaccinated people who inhale virus will get infected. The immune response will limit the infection quickly and prevent the person from becoming ill.

Bottom line, get the shots. They're not 100%, but they are out best chance for not dying from this.

bucolic_frolic

(43,133 posts)
6. At least they avoided microchips and magnetic forks in their heads
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 04:21 PM
Jun 2021

They might not have fit in their coffins.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
17. This is mere speculation on my part
Tue Jun 22, 2021, 07:29 PM
Jun 2021

... but aren't IT people (who run computer networks in most organizations) more likely to skew libertarian/ultra-conservative?

I've only known a few IT people in my travels, but the ones I've known have been politically conservative and/or leaning libertarian. But maybe I'm wrong.

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