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Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:00 PM

Derek Chauvin receives 22 and a half years for murder of George Floyd

Source: New York Times



MINNEAPOLIS -- Derek Chauvin, the former police officer convicted of murder in the death of George Floyd, was sentenced on Friday to 22 and a half years in prison, bringing a measure of closure to a case that set off waves of protest across the nation over police abuse of Black people. The sentence, delivered by Judge Peter A. Cahill of Hennepin County District Court, came more than a year after a widely shared cellphone video captured Mr. Chauvin pressing his knee on the neck of Mr. Floyd for more than nine minutes along a Minneapolis street.

Earlier this year, Mr. Chauvin was convicted of second-degree murder, and the sentence followed emotional statements in court Friday by members of Mr. Floyd's family as well as by Mr. Chauvin's mother. Mr. Chauvin, who spoke only briefly during the hearing on Friday, offering condolences to the Floyd family, has been behind bars since his trial, which ended in April. The judge said Mr. Chauvin would be credited with 199 days already served toward his sentence. Officials said he was being kept in solitary confinement for his own safety. Before the sentencing hearing, Mr. Chauvin's lawyer, Eric J. Nelson, had pressed the court for leniency, asking for probation and time served.

Mr. Nelson wrote in a memorandum that Mr. Chauvin had not known that he was committing a crime when he tried to arrest Mr. Floyd on a report that he had tried to use a fake $20 bill to buy cigarettes. Mr. Nelson also argued that placing Mr. Chauvin in prison would make him a target of other inmates. In seeking a 30-year prison sentence for Mr. Floyd, prosecutors had argued that the former officer's actions had "traumatized Mr. Floyd's family, the bystanders who watched Mr. Floyd die, and the community. And his conduct shocked the nation's conscience." The killing of Mr. Floyd, a 46-year-old Black man, by Mr. Chauvin, 45, who is white, led to a national reckoning over racial injustice in almost every aspect of American life.

Calls emerged around the country to defund police budgets, remove statues of historical figures tied to racism and diversify predominantly white corporate boards. The maximum sentence allowed under Minnesota law for second-degree murder, the most serious charge Mr. Chauvin was convicted of, is 40 years. Under Minnesota's sentencing guidelines, though, a presumptive sentence for someone like Mr. Chauvin with no criminal history is 12.5 years. The jury, which deliberated for just over 10 hours following a six week trial, also convicted Mr. Chauvin of third-degree murder and manslaughter.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/25/us/derek-chauvin-22-and-a-half-years-george-floyd.html



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BREAKING: Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin sentenced to 22.5 years in the murder of George Floyd.

Chauvin is sentenced to 22-and-a-half years

Judge Cahill announced that Chauvin is sentenced to 270 months in prison.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/derek-chauvin/?id78469886






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Reply Derek Chauvin receives 22 and a half years for murder of George Floyd (Original post)
BumRushDaShow Jun 25 OP
AZLD4Candidate Jun 25 #1
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oldsoftie Jun 25 #62
RevBrotherThomas Jun 25 #5
AZLD4Candidate Jun 25 #6
EndlessWire Jun 25 #13
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Aristus Jun 25 #32
AZLD4Candidate Jun 25 #35
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AZLD4Candidate Jun 25 #34
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ShazzieB Jun 25 #58
EndlessWire Jun 25 #24
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sdfernando Jun 25 #12
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sarisataka Jun 25 #39
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COL Mustard Jun 25 #41
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:02 PM

1. Not enough. Judge bowed to pressure then wimped out and said "read my decision"

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:04 PM

2. Comeon now. You know it's extremely rare that a judge issues the max, and this sentence is very

close to the max of 30 years.

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Response to napi21 (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:06 PM

3. Closer to 20 than 30.

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Response to napi21 (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 07:37 PM

62. Hell, I expected 10!

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:06 PM

5. Hey...

The defense was asking for probation and time served. This is a win.

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Response to RevBrotherThomas (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:08 PM

6. Pyhrric victory to the African-American community

IF Chauvin was black, you know the book would have been thrown at him.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:10 PM

13. It's enough.

His life is over. How's he gonna live inside a prison as an ex cop who killed someone? I think it will give a lotta pause to those bad apples who love to go beyond their job descriptions.

My next door neighbor beat someone to death with a ball bat. He got 25 to life, with one extra year enhancement for using a weapon (the bat.) So, to me Chauvin's sentence is pretty stiff.

The whole thing is sad. I hope that Floyd's family gets some relief now.

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Response to EndlessWire (Reply #13)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:13 PM

17. His life is over? George Floyd's is completely over

HE got 12.5/30 for the murder and 10/10 for the abuse of power. 22.5 out of 40. If he serves it all, he will be 67 with the sunset years free when released and Floyd will still be dead.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #17)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:21 PM

20. I think the takeaway from the sentencing is not that it is or ever was possible to bring

George Floyd back, but to prevent cops from being quite so cavalier about murder in the future. Maybe they can re-read and re-examine the phrase "To Protect And Serve".

I think 22 years is great. I was worried Chauvin was going to get a slap on the wrist.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #20)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:23 PM

22. Take away the ten years for the abuse of power, he got 12.5 out of 30 years

42% of the maximum. The system failed.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #22)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:28 PM

26. I don't agree.

A slap on the wrist would have been system failure. The system worked. Not perfectly, but it worked.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #26)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:33 PM

28. He got 41.6% of a possible thirty year sentence

Why are people defending the indefensible?

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #28)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:36 PM

32. Because he's going to be off the streets for a long time.

And he has a murder conviction on his record. I don't think there was ever a chance he was going to be told he was free to go, and have his piece and his badge handed to him. But a lot of us were worried about genuinely light, non-punitive sentences.

Killer cops don't have an easy time of it in the joint. He's going to have a rough twenty two years.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #32)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:39 PM

35. Very light sentence for murder.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #35)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:41 PM

36. I agree.

But much harsher than the nothing cops used to get.

Maybe cop-supporters won't leap right to the "Well, he's dead; he must have done something wrong" defense quite so quickly in the future.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #35)

Sat Jun 26, 2021, 01:22 PM

69. Not really

US averages:

By offense type, the median time served was 13.4 years for murder, 2.2 years for violent crimes excluding murder, 17 months for drug trafficking, and 10 months for drug possession.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #22)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:36 PM

31. if there aren't aggravating factors

like abuse of power, the maximum isn't 30 anymore.

I'm African American and an experienced criminal law attorney who has been on both sides. This is a reasonable sentence.

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #31)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:39 PM

34. Sorry, I agree with the anger on the street

If a black drug dealer shoots someone in a buy gone wrong, what do you assume their sentence would be? Don't cop out and say "that's hypothetical."

Drug dealers get more time than he did FOR MURDER!!!

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #34)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 07:44 PM

65. I don't know

Is this their first crime? What's the maximum? Are there aggravating factors?

The standard is 12.5 if not.

But feel what you feel, there's nothing anyone can say to change that

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #22)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:47 PM

58. The max was 30. He got more than 2/3 of that.

I don't think the system failed. Acquittal would have been a failure, but he was convicted on all charges. Giving him the probation that the defense asked for would have been a failure, but that is not what happened. He is going to serve a significant amount of time.

Is this a perfect outcome? Hell, no. But perfect was never going to happen, because the criminal justice system is not perfect. It's a flawed, imperfect system that produces flawed, imperfect outcomes. That's not a good thing, and reforms are badly needed, but it's what the judge had to work with, and we need to recognize that.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #17)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:25 PM

24. That's right.

We can't bring Floyd back. I think the sentence is appropriate for someone killing a human being under color of authority without regard to his suffering. Do you think for a second that any day of this sentence will be comfy and cozy? He'll probably commit suicide in the jail. I'd rather take an overdose than live through it. He has no points to press, his appeals will be denied, and getting out of jail at 67, if he survives, will be no cake walk. All he's got left now is being "a model prisoner" in hopes of clemency by a Repub pres. Not likely to happen.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 08:29 PM

67. In total agreement.

He killed George Floyd intentionally with depraved indifference to human life. Fuck him! He should've gotten the hammer. Life in prison.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 26, 2021, 03:20 AM

68. If he is still facing federal charges and assuming he is convicted there the sentence he was just

given is acceptable.
Great? No, but acceptable.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:06 PM

4. So what does one have to do to get the maximum sentence for 2nd Degree Murder?

I mean, Chauvin terrorized and murdered a guy while abusing power and in broad daylight in front of witnesses, including children, and gets 56% of the maximum sentence.

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Response to -misanthroptimist (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:09 PM

8. I think we all know the answer.

Melanin.

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Response to -misanthroptimist (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:10 PM

12. Max is 30 years

22.5 is 75% of the max not 56%. I wish he got the full 100% but lets at least be accurate.

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Response to sdfernando (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:11 PM

16. Plus ten for the abuse of power 40 years

Without the abuse of power, he would have gotten 12.5 out of 30.

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Response to -misanthroptimist (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:11 PM

15. To get the 40 year maximum

He would have to have had a lengthy criminal history with multiple felony convictions

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:37 PM

33. He was convicted of multiple felonies

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Response to -misanthroptimist (Reply #33)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:53 PM

39. History...

Prior convictions. There are different standards for multiple charges for the same action.

This has all been gone over multiple times. Life was never on the table with a 2nd degree charge and if they overcharged with 1st degree he could likely have walked free.

The 40 year max is for career criminals which his history did not support. 30 was the absolute maximum and our local legal experts said that too was unlikely.

People were predicting five years earlier today but the judge deviated from the standard sentence upwards by ten years.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:08 PM

7. Do we think that he could serve less time....

Is he eligible for early release or parole? I didn't hear anything about that in the sentencing....Folks on FB are already saying he will only serve 10 years?

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:09 PM

9. 15 years they are saying on CNN

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Response to JenniferJuniper (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:24 PM

23. Thanks soooo much...

I just switched my internet service and Cable tv from ATT to a fiber line with Metronet .but not TV with them.. I'm going to set up YouTube tonight. Once I figure out if all charges can be thru Amazon???! So, my point...no CNN or MSNBC on TV .just in the car ..

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:09 PM

11. This proves there are different sentencing standards for race and wealth

The system has been exposed. BLM is completely correct.

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 07:40 PM

63. And politicians!

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:20 PM

19. I heard on the radio (CBS news affiliate)

that he could serve "2/3rds" (which is 15 years) for good behavior before possibly being eligible for parole.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #19)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 05:18 PM

41. He'll Probably Have Federal Civil Rights Charges Added

He won't be out in 15. He probably won't be out in 22.5. He may never come out.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #43)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 05:23 PM

44. Great Minds Think Alike!

Now, I don't know how that explains ME, but you, clearly are a great mind!!!

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Response to COL Mustard (Reply #44)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 05:30 PM

46. Ha!

A frazzled one is more like it. :

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #19)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:13 PM

52. "Possibly eligible for parole" are the keywords here.

"Possibly" means it could happen, not that it necessarily will.

"Eligible for parole" doesn't mean parole is automatic at that point. There are criteria that have to be met, and a lot can happen between now and then.

"Possibly eligible for parole" is a hypothetical statement. It is not a given that he'll be out at 15 years, and I'll be surprised if he is.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:09 PM

10. BS sentence - people are in jail for drug offenses longer than that - he murdered a man.

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Response to walkingman (Reply #10)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:10 PM

14. He was allowed to leave the court without being put in handcuffs after sentencing

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Response to AZLD4Candidate (Reply #14)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:26 PM

25. He will get a lot of little perks

in prison from the Correction Officers...just no freedom...

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #25)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:32 PM

27. Great. He will be protected and shielded. Will get good behavior reports to give to the

parole board and will be released well before his time.

There's justice for you.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:15 PM

18. George Floyd's daughter Gianna, will be only 22 yrs old when Chauvin walks out of prison.

Should he serve 15 yrs, or 2/3 of his sentence.
This is sickening. He should have had life.







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Response to Budi (Reply #18)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 05:56 PM

48. Life was never on the table.

Not for 2nd degree murder. And as someone pointed out, charging him with murder one could have resulted in his going free. The bar for conviction would have been much higher, and it wasn't worth the risk.

Personally, I wasn't expecting that he'd get the maximum sentence of 30 years, and I know he could have gotten a lot less than he did, so I'm okay with this. Thrilled? No. But I am very glad it wasn't less,, which it very well could have been. Knowing what the realistic possibilities were,

In a strict moral sense, sure, he deserves to be put away forever. But that's not how sentencing decisions are made. It just doesnít work that way in this highly imperfect world that we live in.

Considering how this could have turned out and how amazed and relieved we all were when Chauvin was actually convicted on ALL counts, I'm okay with this.

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Response to ShazzieB (Reply #48)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:39 PM

57. Pity, because in this case it should have been on the table



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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:22 PM

21. According to the article, the presumptive sentence for someone with no criminal record is 12.5 years

While I don't think it's enough - since he was a cop and they need to be held to a higher standard, he should have received 20 years for the murder - it was what he was going to get anyway.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #21)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:29 PM

55. And he got 22.

I wasn't even counting on that much.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:33 PM

29. Good.

The chances of thirty years were slim, but this will do.

Maybe he'll have time to think about his actions, assuming he gets to live.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:35 PM

30. As the daughter of a cop, I'm not thrilled because LEOs should be held to a higher standard.

My dad took it to the max, for instance, he would never go to a bar because he thought he needed to set an example (which I thought was a bit extreme but I admired his ethics.)

But his time in prison will not be easy because they won't risk putting him in general population so he will likely be locked up for 23 hours of the day which is no fun.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:41 PM

37. And let any cop afraid of this happening to him quit now, before it does!!!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:53 PM

38. I believe there are federal charges that will be pursued also

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #38)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 05:20 PM

42. Yes I think I heard Civil Rights charges

so the potential is for additional years after this sentence... unless they decide to let justice go by the wayside and make any additional sentence "concurrent".

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 04:54 PM

40. Good. I say that because I thought

The sentence time would be lower. Itís pretty stiff relative to the history of sentences for policemen, I think. Iím not saying this is justice but it is a measure of it at least.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 05:25 PM

45. Seems just to me.

20+ years is not insubstantial for someone with his record, so he was probably sentenced much like anyone else for a similar crime. I know many will disagree and think life w/o parole is warranted, but he didn't sit at home plotting the murder, then pull his sidearm and blow Floyd's brains out on the sidewalk.

As far as I'm concerned, justice has been served and a message sent to law enforcement that they can be held accountable for cruel deeds beyond the scope of their duty.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 05:34 PM

47. Seems like a fair sentence to me

And I think the judge is in a tricky situation. There's a lot of public pressure to go for the max sentence (for good reasons) but I do think fairness dictates considering what is typical for a first time offender. I personally don't believe in a punishment-based criminal justice system no matter how heinous the crime. Ideally, the goal should always be rehabilitation unless that is impossible. In an ideal world that would be possible here and people would be open to that possibility. I really don't think that can happen though. I think the best he can hope for after release is changing his name, moving somewhere remote, and trying to live a quiet life in anonymity.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 05:58 PM

49. A manslaughter sentence for 1st degree murder

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Response to Auggie (Reply #49)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 07:36 PM

61. Who gets 22 years for manslaughter? No one.

Thats a 5 yr sentence. Involuntary usually isnt even 2 yrs.

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #61)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 07:45 PM

66. The sentence exceeds the Minnesota​ guidelines ranging of 10 years and eight months to 15 years

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:05 PM

50. All he had to do is not murder George Floyd in cold blood.

I guess that was just too hard, even with those who have their humanity still intact begging him not to. My sympathies lie with George Floyd's family - his daughter who has to live the rest of her life without her daddy.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:09 PM

51. Wouldn't have gotten this far without video and citizen monitoring of the encounter

Old days it would have been 'nothing to see here, move on', and no evidence to give background. Generally people seem to think the sentence on the light side but it does send a message and just a few years ago this would have gone nowhere. So remain vigilant, if you see something, make a note, make a video, write it down.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:19 PM

53. Unusual.

Lock him up.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:19 PM

54. I think...

... the judge went "by the book" with the sentencing. That's what I would have done... this case is high profile. You look at what the guidelines are, and go with what any judge would sentence. Stick with the guidelines. He issued a statement supporting the sentence(s). Most importantly, the fact that a police officer was the killer did not mean a light sentence.

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #54)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:38 PM

56. What got me though

was that he spent quite a bit of time insisting that he wasn't going to be taking a lot of time to make any comments... and then he went ahead and did so anyway.

He did say he would let the "written" (22 page IIRC) sentencing document lay out his reasoning but probably should have left it at that.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 06:50 PM

59. An empty victory.

I was hoping for life, but I will take this.
A lesson for power tripping cops. Yes, you want to, but you shouldn't expect to get away with it. So don't!

What next?

More charges?

Compensation to the family?

A statue of Floyd, with his knee on Chauvin's neck?

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Response to Aussie105 (Reply #59)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 07:42 PM

64. How is it you were hoping for life

When none of the charges included life as a possible punishment?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Jun 25, 2021, 07:33 PM

60. He's being charged with felony tax evasion also.

The state of Minnesota has nine felony counts on him and he goes to court on those June 30th. I would assume if he is being charged by the state he will soon be charged by the IRS since Minnesota taxes use the federal adjusted gross income as the base. He's not getting out for a very long time although camp fed is generally nicer than Stillwater.

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Sun Jun 27, 2021, 04:03 PM

70. He could have easily escaped being charged.

All is took was a video of the crime and weeks of protests and riots.

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