Rep. McCaul: Biden is 'going to own' Afghanistan fallout
Source: Politico
The top Republican on the House Foreign Affairs Committee hammered President Joe Biden on Sunday for his withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan.
Rep. Mike McCaul (R-Texas) said that the Taliban is poised to threaten the stability of the Afghan government and Biden will be responsible for the looming violence and repression left in the Talibans wake.
Were going dark in Afghanistan, and theres going to be consequences long term for this, McCaul said on Fox News Sunday. President Biden [is] going to own these images.
Biden announced in April that by the fall the U.S. would withdraw nearly all of its remaining forces from Afghanistan after nearly 20 years there. Recently, the military officially left Bagram Airfield and turned over control of the strategically important post to the Afghan National Security and Defense Forces
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You mean the withdrawal that was started by your Lord and Savior Donald Trump?
Botany
(70,291 posts)Who knew.
Crowman2009
(2,478 posts)Botany
(70,291 posts).... we can always win the battles but we can't win the occupation. We could have expelled the Taliban, killed bin Laden, gone home, and have been seen as the good guys by a high % of the Afghani people but Rummy let bin Laden walk @ Toro Bora and then we got bogged down into an endless war.
msongs
(67,197 posts)Botany
(70,291 posts)But Rummy called 'em off because he wanted a war in Iraq.
FarPoint
(12,209 posts)He will not be missed.
McKim
(2,412 posts)Yes and they wanted the minerals. There are billions worth of minerals in Afghanistan and that was the real power behind this war, greed!
certainot
(9,090 posts)who gets remembered and isn't. what/who's acceptable or isn't. and that's a major motivation for republican obstruction - they always get to have it both ways.
it really doesn't matter what biden (or any other democrat) does or says or doesn't as long as dems keep ignoring that radio propaganda operation that putin uses too. the biggest political mistake in history
Elessar Zappa
(13,650 posts)power when Limbaugh died.
certainot
(9,090 posts)SouthBayDem
(31,962 posts)in a unanimous 98-0 vote. The two non-voting senators: Larry Craig (R-ID) and Jesse Helms (R-NC).
Lovie777
(11,992 posts)are "afraid" of other network news such as CNN and MSNBC.
Most republicans speak with fork tongue. Shithole starting this but alas he was considered a genius (fake).
underpants
(182,279 posts)Sorry, you cant change nature. No one has ever conquered Afghanistan and no one ever will.
Ritabert
(644 posts)Never open a Pandora's box unless you can see a favorable outcome. As Rumsfeld said "Democracy is messy" while trying to explain the mess in Iraq.
Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)Similar dynamic playing out.
Factional 'nations' attempted to be held together by unrepresentative central governments.
The 'Taliban' will splinter once the unpopular central government is overthrown . . basically back to the Civil War of the 90's.
snort
(2,334 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,548 posts)PortTack
(32,606 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 4, 2021, 02:33 PM - Edit history (1)
The first place. But at this juncture 20 yrs should have been enough for them to know how to defend their country. We could stay another 10 and nothing would change
Crowman2009
(2,478 posts)Say one thing and do another once a democratic president gets into office.
Demnation
(390 posts)ananda
(28,783 posts)I just can't stand him, and he doesn't represent
my area since it's so fucking gerrymandered.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,063 posts)Bush.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)I hate to admit it, but this one Trump got right.
Mr.Bill
(24,104 posts)We're still there.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)A schedule to end it. I guess it's hard to be wrong about everything.
Mr.Bill
(24,104 posts)We're still there.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)Have to criticize President Obama.
Mr.Bill
(24,104 posts)to get us out of there.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)He was a great President. He wasn't perfect.
Mr.Bill
(24,104 posts)are long past giving a fuck about what happens to Afghanistan. I know I never did.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)totodeinhere
(13,037 posts)If we cannot succeed with military intervention in 20 years we never will.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)WhiteTara
(29,676 posts)whom I respect. But this clown, not so much.
MyOwnPeace
(16,888 posts)Yes, the RepubliQans.
NOTHING about the economy (how to help it)
NOTHING about global warming (how to fix it)
NOTHING about equal rights (just ways to prolong the problem)
NOTHING about voting rights for all (just ways to 'rig' elections for themselves)
and NOTHING about how to end a war that they started - NOTHING!!!!!
Mr.Bill
(24,104 posts)when they are in office, they don't think any of those things are even problems.
Paladin
(28,204 posts)Go back to counting your wife's family money. (Is the old saying true? "Nobody works harder for money than those who marry into it"? Somehow I seriously doubt it.)
patphil
(6,035 posts)So, Biden is just completing Trump's work there.
And, this was always a Republican war. "W" started this war in 2001, and let his guy Rumsfeld allow bin Laden to live when they had him cornered.
It wasn't until May of 2011 that a Democratic President announced the operation that killed bin Laden.
Then Trump let it drag on throughout his term.
And now another Democratic President is putting an end to an unwinnable war that has stretched on for over 20 years.
There was never any doubt that the Afghan people could not defeat the Taliban; even with our presence it hasn't happened. The end result of our exit was always known. We could stay there 50 years, and the Taliban would control the country within 6 months of our exit.
The only thing we can do is give asylum to the many thousands of Afghanes who worked with us...providing the Republicans will vote to do so. I wouldn't hold my breath on that happening.
So my guess is the Republicans will decry Bidens bringing home the troops, and the slaughter of those who supported us there, while conveniently ignoring the fact that they refused to give them shelter.
Dan
(3,524 posts)This was and is an American war. Regardless of what truth or lies got us into Afghanistan - we are all in that mess together.
Peoples children from both sides of the aisle have died because of this misadventure.
I know the moral obligation to give asylum to the many thousands of Afghans - but I question not their their intelligence, but their ability to adapt culturally. I suspect that there are some cultural values that they might have that will be unacceptable here in the cities and the heartland.
Just thinking
onetexan
(12,994 posts)The entire thing was based on lies so they can profit from their interests in defense companies.
maxsolomon
(32,992 posts)A Republican Administration decided on the troop levels, how to engage Pakistan, how to attack Tora Bora, etc.
A Republican Administration made the choice to VOLUNTARILY add an invasion and occupation of Iraq to our military's plate.
turbinetree
(24,632 posts)your a fucking idiot...
Skittles
(152,964 posts)BUSH INC WILL FOREVER OWN THE AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ DEBACLES
FUCK YOU
Grokenstein
(5,707 posts)This is why I don't go for the "TFG" nonsense. Pretending he and his supporters have just "gone away" isn't going to work out for anyone but them.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)It doesn't imply he and Cult45 have gone away. Just sayin
DallasNE
(7,392 posts)It started to unravel when Bush let bin Laden escape at Tora bora in order to ramp up his dreamed invasion of Iraq, where no WMD were to be found. You just can't engage in forever wars and this is what Afghanistan turned out to be. If you can't complete the mission in 20 years you can't complete the mission in 50 years. We learned nothing from Vietnam and repeated the same mistakes in Afghanistan and Iraq.
https://www.facebook.com/TwistedTailsPugs/photos/a.376641535837283/1865053486996073/?__cft__[0]=AZWw5WwZa7WTADy3UzHlrTYjHXKciqYRAWf9y1zM7WlUmSfQMrikRX9ybuqCokSUHH8ZQyWboxH5_uM4_RW7XyZfpFQYMhhBLma1HT9VK1tEdO8_aSszHEh_y_XlFfPerz0Yir_o8gnq_qEAj89TofoPCBLN0q3nDfCXiPSfuyoEKjSgUbxXgQv5zKH2BGPYWLOyBluQNQkQbIS05lxAs7g7&__tn__=EH-y-R
onetexan
(12,994 posts)do whatever they can to paint it Biden's problem. It's pure BS. This is Bush, Rumsfeld, & Cheney and the GOP having deliverately deceived the Congress, the Senate & the country on WMDs. Republicans lie, spread more lies, & continue to lie. Dubya w forever be the Idiot who got us into this mess, and the Con w forever be the fake potus who stole the 2016 election and invoked an insurrection to keep himself in office. No matter how the GOP spin this, these 2 things will forever be their ugly legacy.
former9thward
(31,805 posts)Please remember President Obama called the Afghan war "the good war".
It was a crucial turning point in the evolution of Barack Obama. The antiwar candidate of 2008 who had pledged to turn around Afghanistan the good war to George W. Bushs bad war in Iraq had conceded that the longest military operation in American history would not end on his watch. The optimistic president who once thought Afghanistan was winnable had, through bitter experience, become the commander in chief of a forever war.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/01/world/asia/obama-afghanistan-war.html
Every POTUS from the time we invaded had the power to withdraw our troops. They all own it.
usaf-vet
(6,094 posts)..... wars in the middle east. Started them on lies and continued them to benefit the rich oil barons, weapon builders, mercenary groups, and others who always benefit without shedding a drop of their own blood.
Biden works to SAVE lives where TFG let 500,000 Americans die of Covid without even a bit of compassion.
Go POTUS Joe Biden!
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)ChazInAz
(2,535 posts)There was never any other way this idiotic adventure would end.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,111 posts)cadoman
(792 posts)They'll have the wrath of the press and MIC but the hearts and votes of the nation.
The tricky part (and why no one has done it yet) is surviving an assassination attempt from the three letter agencies.
maxsolomon
(32,992 posts)He's only correct in that GQP Media will try and pin it on Biden.
TheFarseer
(9,308 posts)But honestly, there were no good choices in this situation. I think most people will recognize that.