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Thu Jul 22, 2021, 08:27 AM

Police Foiled An Ohio Incel's Plot To Kill Women In A Mass Shooting, Prosecutors Say

Source: NPR

An Ohio man federal prosecutors say is an "incel" was charged in federal court this week with attempting a hate crime for his plot to kill women.

Tres Genco, 21, was arrested Wednesday and is also facing charges related to illegally possessing a machine gun, according to the Justice Department.

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Genco wrote a manifesto titled "A Hideous Symphony," by "Tres Genco, the socially exiled Incel." In it he said he would "slaughter" women "out of hatred, jealousy and revenge..." and called death the "great equalizer." Investigators say they discovered another note, allegedly drafted by Genco, that said he hoped to "aim big" for a kill count of 3,000 people.

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When police arrived at the home, the affidavit said, the unnamed caller told officers Genco had become erratic and somewhat violent over the previous several months. They added that they had come across Genco's violent writings in his room, according to an affidavit.

When police searched the trunk of his car, investigators discovered Genco's cache of weapons, which included a firearm with a bump stock attached, several loaded magazines, body armor and boxes of ammunition.

Read more: https://www.npr.org/2021/07/22/1019089834/police-foiled-an-ohio-incels-plot-to-kill-women-in-a-mass-shooting-prosecutors-s

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UpInArms Jul 22 OP
Scrivener7 Jul 22 #1
marble falls Jul 22 #2
Chin music Jul 22 #30
niyad Jul 22 #3
Scrivener7 Jul 22 #4
Peregrine Took Jul 22 #26
EYESORE 9001 Jul 22 #5
LiberalFighter Jul 22 #14
Escurumbele Jul 22 #6
PJMcK Jul 22 #23
Marcuse Jul 22 #31
JI7 Jul 22 #7
Cinnamonspice Jul 22 #8
bucolic_frolic Jul 22 #9
Backseat Driver Jul 22 #44
getagrip_already Jul 22 #10
IronLionZion Jul 22 #11
ancianita Jul 22 #21
tenderfoot Jul 22 #12
UpInArms Jul 22 #13
LiberalFighter Jul 22 #15
KS Toronado Jul 22 #16
Larissa Jul 22 #36
Judi Lynn Jul 23 #52
LiberatedUSA Jul 22 #17
2naSalit Jul 22 #27
Initech Jul 22 #19
ck4829 Jul 22 #33
Initech Jul 22 #34
ck4829 Jul 22 #38
Jedi Guy Jul 24 #55
rainin Jul 22 #18
Ocelot II Jul 22 #35
Harker Jul 22 #37
Ocelot II Jul 22 #39
Solly Mack Jul 22 #45
lillypaddle Jul 22 #40
Ocelot II Jul 22 #41
Initech Jul 22 #43
Midnight Writer Jul 22 #47
Jim G. Jul 22 #48
UnderThisLaw Jul 22 #50
Skittles Jul 23 #51
ancianita Jul 22 #20
Grokenstein Jul 22 #22
LittleGirl Jul 22 #24
GulfCoast66 Jul 22 #25
Grokenstein Jul 22 #28
Ocelot II Jul 22 #42
Marcuse Jul 22 #29
Backseat Driver Jul 22 #46
maxrandb Jul 24 #54
bahboo Jul 22 #32
Blue Owl Jul 22 #49
Manifestor_of_Light Jul 23 #53

Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 08:32 AM

1. It must have been a relative who let cops into the room and the car.

That must have been a hard thing to do. And very sad.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 08:37 AM

2. Seems like they went out of their way to avoid saying this guy was in the Dayton area.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 08:41 AM

3. Such extreme hatred for women is horrifying, but, sadly, not uncommon.

The Ecole Polytechnique Montreal massacre immediately springs to mind. In Google just now, I see that it is referenced as a misogynistic terrorist attack on women. So glad to see it identified properly.

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Response to niyad (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 08:42 AM

4. This.

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Response to niyad (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 12:51 PM

26. I can tell right away if a man dislikes/hates women - there is a coldness in the eyes

and manner.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 08:47 AM

5. The thing I find most disturbing in this story...

‘… the unnamed caller told officers Genco had become erratic and somewhat violent over the previous several months.’

Someone allowed this situation to fester for months - to the point that he was driving around with an Arsenal in the trunk of his car - before notifying authorities.

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Response to EYESORE 9001 (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 10:56 AM

14. Not necessarily. Allowing it? No. Knowing how bad it was early on? No.

The early warning signals are not always apparent. And it does require a point in time that would indicate it to be a problem.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 09:59 AM

6. QUESTION...When I click on DU links, it sometimes opens another page with an ad, is anyone else

having this issue as well?

I don't know if this is a thing with DU now, or if I have a trojan.

Thank you

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Response to Escurumbele (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 11:34 AM

23. Buy a Star Membership from DU

Send them a few bucks and you'll never see ads on DU again.

Besides, they could use the support!

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #23)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:13 PM

31. Hear, Hear.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 10:07 AM

7. Incels are ruining the world.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 10:10 AM

8. Wow.

Just want to say great job to the police for busting that.


This incel thing is ridiculous.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 10:15 AM

9. Incels represent but an extreme form of hatred

There are varying degrees all the way down to passive-aggressive and perhaps even avoidant, and also I'd bet it's not entirely gender specific.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 03:15 PM

44. I don't think we should let extreme dysfunctional parenting off the hook either

in creating incels - parents et al adults need to watch "how" they live and project their own traumatic lives onto their kids, especially the only male child, protected from peer relationships and/or competitive endeavors, but also young girls who see and hear comments designed to reduce their self-esteem and increase awareness at being un-attractive, non-virtuous, and/or too intelligent, yet still social failures nonetheless, that might never have happy successful long term relationships as partners - it's not about being LGTB (that's about orientation towards love) but maybe more about being whatever gets included as Q insofar as incel self-loathing and public displays or even covert (behind a door of public normalcy), since there's a spectrum, when such ideation gets processed and compartmentalized beyond the consciousness of the childmind that remains unreachable. immature, selfish, with projected hatred they might deny or publicly avow as "adults" until...

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 10:17 AM

10. can they charge him for anything beyond the weapons' charges?

What scares me is that there are a lot of these whacko's running around with legal arsenals.

Can they charge him with a conspiracy to commit mass murder charge? Gun charges won't hold him for long.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 10:21 AM

11. Terrorism would be a good charge

but domestic terrorism laws are pretty weak for people like this.

Then there's the whole problem of charging a person for planning to commit mass murder, but without having committed it yet. There are plenty of angry failures out there writing out violent fantasies.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 11:27 AM

21. Depends. With a felony charge on the bump stock he won't be able to pass a background, and

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finding an assembled, no serial number Glock, meaning ghost gun, he is going to be held for a while. He'll definitely never pass a background again, and so will only be able to get more guns privately, but he'll be under surveillance.

Because the ATF will do some tracings on the weapons to find current and future sellers, too.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 10:42 AM

12. These are the kind of women Incels DEMAND!!!!



Good luck with that...

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Response to tenderfoot (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 10:49 AM

13. And ... here's the incel

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Response to UpInArms (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 10:59 AM

15. He is a lost cause.

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Response to UpInArms (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 11:06 AM

16. And more than likely he's a reQublican.

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Response to UpInArms (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:42 PM

36. A village is missing its Hobbit

She's just not into him.

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Response to UpInArms (Reply #13)

Fri Jul 23, 2021, 04:53 AM

52. Mr. Personality!



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Response to tenderfoot (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 11:10 AM

17. Women like that have likely had to...

...put up with assholes since puberty. Every social event they walk into, the assholes flock to them. Last thing they need is not only an asshole, but one that thinks they are owed it and get passive aggressive when they don’t get the prize every romantic comedy and action movie says they should get.

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Response to LiberatedUSA (Reply #17)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 12:54 PM

27. +1

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Response to tenderfoot (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 11:17 AM

19. The one thing I've never understood about the Incel movement...

Is that they not only have impossible standards for beauty, but they think beautiful women owe them. And not only that most of these "incels" work really terrible jobs. I mean why would a woman who looks like that be impressed with some douchebag who lives in a basement and works at a drive-thru, and spends most of his time on the computer?

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Response to Initech (Reply #19)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:31 PM

33. Nobody should be impressed by that... and THEY themselves shouldn't be impressed by that

These incels are always talking about "looks", how biology and their looks have sealed their fate for them.

I don't think it's that at all, I've seen objects and people change appearance completely based on the angle, we've all seen it in fact.

Yes, there are standards of beauty and it's unfair, but unless they have an extra eye or something, they CAN be deemed attractive by a very wide swath of people who are also attractive. Attraction is more than just looks as we all know though, if you look and act like a psycho, people won't be attracted to you. That sentence should be common knowledge.

I don't know if there's a section of the internet warping social skills or something, probably though, I was a romance/intimacy late bloomer myself, but I wasn't going around calling myself an "incel" at 21 years of age.

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Response to ck4829 (Reply #33)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:36 PM

34. The incel movement and the "looksism" movement are both insane.

Yeah I get that sexless losers want a voice. But some of the articles I've seen about this kind of thing - these people are not leading what one would call "glamorous lifestyles". In fact the life of an incel is literally the opposite of that. I remember an article that was posted here one time about some posters on one forum - one guy had his parents pay for his apartment and he spent the entire time going on internet forums and chain smoking, and had no job prospects. And the most exciting part of his life was waiting for a livestream where another poster on said forum was going to poop his pants. Yeah what woman in her right mind would want that?

The looksism movement is based on getting plastic surgery to look like Barbie and/or Ken dolls because that's the image that is projected. What's really insane is that last year I remember people getting unnecessary plastic surgery so they could look good on Zoom.

As they said on the former morning show that I used to listen to - "this is no way to live a life".

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Response to Initech (Reply #34)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:58 PM

38. True. "Hey baby, let's go live in a van down by the river" is not a normal life goal.

BUT if one wants to live on the fringes of society, that is fine, but they shouldn't expect others to necessarily join in with them. And this mindset of entitlement that "perfect 10" women should is just baffling to me.

If you want to live a non-conformist lifestyle, if you are truly OK with living on the fringes, that shouldn't necessarily be seen as something wrong in and of itself... I'm just surprised, I wish they could be asked "Don't you think it is a little unworkable that you do all these non-conformist things, yet you seek a woman deemed beautiful by the rest of society you don't adhere to?"

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Response to Initech (Reply #19)

Sat Jul 24, 2021, 06:48 PM

55. Insofar as the looks thing is concerned...

It's entirely possible for there to be a wild disparity in attractiveness between people in a relationship. As an example, Christina Hendricks (who is drop dead gorgeous, IMO) was married to Geoffrey Arend for 10 years. You may recall Mr. Arend as the stoner kid from the beginning of Super Troopers who licks the window of the cop car and declares, "The snozzberries taste like snozzberries!" Judged purely on looks, she is way out of his league. He's a goofy-looking guy.

That's what these incel guys don't get. Personality, wit, a good attitude, and a sense of humor can often bridge the gulf to someone who's out of their league. Yes, going through life when you're butt-ugly is much harder than if you're a chiseled Adonis. But going through life butt-ugly, bitter, angry, and hateful isn't going to make it better. They either don't know or don't believe that there's more to romance than looks.

I'm not a bad-looking guy (at least, I don't think I am). I'm overweight, but I'm not fugly. When my wife and I met 13 years ago, she was a lingerie model as a part-time gig. No one is ever gonna ask me to model underwear, yet she and I wound up together. Why? Because I didn't act like an asshole. I treated her with kindness and respect, and she enjoyed my personality and sense of humor.

TL;DR: If incels could stop being assholes for five minutes, they might discover that their chances of romance improve.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 11:12 AM

18. Boys should have easy access to sex dolls -

high end ones that are realistic. Let them meet their needs without judgement. There are places in South America where sex with donkeys (or goats) is practiced to give young boys an outlet and protect girls from unwanted attention. Apparently, the rates of violence against women is very low in areas where this is an accepted practice.

I'm STRONGLY opposed to using animals in this way, but sex dolls? I think we need to think outside the box and understand that sexual needs are real and not all boys are finding interested sexual partners. Some young men (not all) will lose hope and become angry enough to rape or kill. These boys need understanding before they become violent.

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Response to rainin (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:39 PM

35. That's a weird viewpoint, and I doubt there's any scientific validity to it.

In any event, the problem incels have isn't a lack of any sexual outlet (they have hands, after all; they don't need animals or dolls); it's that they feel entitled to have sex with women as they please and are outraged if they are rejected. Their dysfunction is in their thought processes, not their sex drives.

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #35)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:49 PM

37. +33.

You put that very well.

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Response to Harker (Reply #37)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:59 PM

39. Indeed.

Fucking farm animals is a whole other dysfunction. For an incel in particular, a goat wouldn't be a satisfactory substitute.

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #35)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 03:25 PM

45. You are very polite and patient.

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Response to rainin (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:31 PM

40. Wow

Really, someone can't get sexual release outside of their own resources, so they turn violent and sexually aggressive toward females?? WTF? Dude, or dudette, you seriously need to get some help. That's just twisted.

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Response to lillypaddle (Reply #40)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:45 PM

41. Like I said, it's a pretty weird opinion with no imaginable basis in reality.

Sexual aggression toward women comes from another place altogether. Dolls and farm animals can't fix what's wrong with those men, and it's just bizarre to suggest that giving a boy a party doll or a pet sheep will prevent him from becoming a rapist when he grows up.

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Response to rainin (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:56 PM

43. Don't date robots!



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Response to rainin (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 05:03 PM

47. Then the incels will complain that they can't find a woman to clean their dolls for them.

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Response to rainin (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 07:10 PM

48. So You're Using Barnyard Sodomy To Justify Supplying Underage Boys With Sex Toys?

I would recommend you reread your post & consider how it may appear to others not as free spirited as yourself. I think posting something like this on a public forum is in poor taste regardless of how you arrived at this hypothesis.


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Response to rainin (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 11:01 PM

50. How do the

donkeys and goats feel about this practice?

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Response to rainin (Reply #18)

Fri Jul 23, 2021, 03:11 AM

51. interesting that you think only boys have "sexual needs"

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 11:20 AM

20. This is really about the guns, and the ATF profiling of mass shooters.

Sure having bump stocks is a felony, but RW Arms, Ltd, a bump stock manufacturer, has a case pending, and with current SCOTUS fast tracking all things corporate, the bump stock ban will probably disappear.

Meanwhile, ATF can use even the presence of one bump stock to confiscate whole caches of guns.

Because mass murder weapons are what destabilize whole economies and governments, as Central and South American cartels have proven.

We don't want to become a cartel country. That's what will happen if we don't pass the For The People Act.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 11:29 AM

22. (sarcasm) The women were clearly asking for it. What were they wearing?

They're no angels!
Anyway, they would have been fine if they had guns to protect themselves.
Or better still, a good guy with a gun so they wouldn't get powder burns on their delicate lady fingers.
(/sarcasm)

Just wanted to run through the cliches before FOXHenhouse's Douchey and Killme and Blonde did.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 11:43 AM

24. We need to legalize pot and prostitution. Nt

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Response to LittleGirl (Reply #24)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 12:46 PM

25. Would not help in the least. Because these losers don't just want sex.

That’s easy enough to get.

They want a women as an ornament to make them feel meaningful.

And normally they want a virgin

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #25)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 12:54 PM

28. They want someone to own, control, dominate and punish at whim

so it feels like their pee-pee is bigger.

They see other men abusing women and say to themselves, "Damn, I want some of that."

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Response to LittleGirl (Reply #24)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 02:50 PM

42. That's an entirely different discussion. Incels don't need pot or hookers;

they're messed up, and in an entirely unrelated way that can't be helped by getting stoned or paying for sex. For some reason they have decided that they are entitled to all the sex they want, and with the most desirable women; and if they can't get it (which they can't because they have awful personalities), those women, or all women, need to be punished. There's a whole 'nother pathology going on here.

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:10 PM

29. Incelology 101

From the incel perspective, women are hypergamous, calculating, and uncaring, as they leverage emerging technology in the pursuit of the ideal masculine partner while maximizing the resources they yield from orbiters. Women are also simultaneously sexual commodities, which can be quantitatively evaluated, subject to market distortions, or be unfairly distributed. Here, incels doubly deny women their humanity, as women are manipulative when acting and overpriced when objectified. While incels accept that they will never attain the status of an alpha, they buttress their own perceived subordination by accepting the black pill, abandoning their sexual/romantic prospects, and avoiding the emasculation characterizing betamales.

[link:https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1097184X211017954|

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Response to Marcuse (Reply #29)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 03:25 PM

46. Good Lord, I read your last word as

be tamales - firm yet mushy texture, steamed in the husk... LOL, oh the shame in the brain!

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Response to Marcuse (Reply #29)

Sat Jul 24, 2021, 08:34 AM

54. This sounds like the story of how Facebook was created N/T

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 01:16 PM

32. of all the pathetic assholes out there....

I think incels might be the worst. Do they really think that their position will somehow result in making them attractive to women rather than the opposite? I mean what the fuck? Emotionally undeveloped, needy whiny little pieces of shit is what they are...

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 07:26 PM

49. James O'Keefe, Jacob Wohl, and company

What a bunch of sick fuck losers who can't find a clue

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Response to UpInArms (Original post)

Fri Jul 23, 2021, 05:41 PM

53. They are pathetic.

Women are learning to steer clear of these smelly, unemployed porn-sick impotent scrotes, as they are called. There is a subreddit called Female Dating Strategy. It's the only female-only sub left on reddit. They drove away all the women, let trans people in, and shut down the gynecological diseases subs, and told women they couldn't post about fibroids, childbirth, breast feeding, PCOS, etc.

The stories on FDS are just horrendous. Men who do nothing to improve themselves, can't even cook themselves a meal or meet basic hygiene standards, think they have a right to control women and put them down. The scrotes read FDS and get really mad that their mental tricks are being exposed, and they are being blocked and deleted. It is horrific how much they really hate women for everything they do and everything they are, even as they want to have sex with them.

Some of them go to a sub called The Red Pill, which is about how to be a calculating conniving pick up artist (PUA). Extremely manipulative. It's so bad that there are warnings about posting in the group!!

Women are warning each other about things like no-effort offers for coffee dates (nope), let's go for a walk (nope) and let's go out to a field and hang out (serial killer vibes). Guys that are worried about gold diggers usually don't have a pot to piss in. There are lots of male gold diggers out there too. I wish there had been a resource for women when I was young and I could have missed out on a lot of verbal abuse and narcissism. Nobody told me I did not have to put up with abusive men.

Luckily, these losers are not going to reproduce, unlike the past when women were expected to get married and take care of a helpless man who couldn't do basic life skills, like laundry.

The bar for male behavior is below Hell. It's somewhere in the core of the earth. Online dating is apparently a complete waste of time.

I am so glad I am happily married and not looking!!

They need to establish specific hate crime laws for woman hating, since (some)men have hated women ever since the dawn of time.

George Floyd and Derek Chauvin had this in common: A history of domestic violence, and multiple violent incidents against women.

https://www.adzlaw.com/domestic-violence/2021/05/05/mass-shootings-and-domestic-violence-victims/

Nearly every mass shooter in U.S. history -- meaning a person who has killed four or more people with a firearm -- was a man. According to The Violence Project, 98% of mass shootings involve a male shooter. When women are involved in the shootings, they are often participating alongside a male partner, or seeking a way out of a violent situation.

However, something else connects many who resort to mass killing: they have a history of domestic violence. A Bloomberg report from 2020 revealed that out of 749 mass shootings in the past 6 years, about 60% involved men who had histories or were in the act of committing domestic violence. The deadlier the incident, the higher the chances of a domestic violence history or gender-based motive. In incidents with six or more deaths, the correlation climbed to 70%.




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