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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,922 posts)
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 06:54 PM Jul 2021

Biden announces federal workers must be vaccinated or face regular tests.

Source: New York Times

President Biden on Thursday announced that all civilian federal employees must be vaccinated against the coronavirus or be forced to submit to regular testing, social distancing, mask requirements and restrictions on most travel.

“We all want our lives to get back to normal, and fully vaccinated workplaces will make that happen more quickly and more successfully,” Mr. Biden said, speaking in the East Room. “We all know that in our gut. With incentives and mandates, we can make a huge difference and save a lot of lives.”

The federal government employs more than 4 million Americans, all of whom will need to attest to being fully vaccinated in order to avoid wearing a mask on the job, regardless of where in the country they work, and comply with screening tests once or twice a week.

The president also directed the Defense Department to study how and when to add the coronavirus vaccine to the list of required vaccinations for all members of the military. The announcement marked the first time he has suggested that a mandate could come for active-duty members of the military before any of the three federally authorized vaccines receives full approval from the Food and Drug Administration. And he called on states, territories and local governments to pay $100 to Americans who remain unvaccinated to get their shots.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-announces-federal-workers-must-be-vaccinated-or-face-regular-tests/ar-AAMIvFA?li=BBnb7Kz

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Biden announces federal workers must be vaccinated or face regular tests. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 OP
I hope they're given the brain-tickler tests . . . zuul Jul 2021 #1
I agree! skylucy Jul 2021 #3
I am waiting for DeSatan to send me my $100 for getting mine months ago. rzemanfl Jul 2021 #2
We all benefit. OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2021 #6
If COVID isn't an incentive, a c-note will be? rzemanfl Jul 2021 #10
For some of the remaining it will be. OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2021 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2021 #12
Reasonable Deminpenn Jul 2021 #4
Retired fed in 12/20 here Pas-de-Calais Jul 2021 #7
I'm sure there'll be some, Deminpenn Jul 2021 #13
I missed having a real POTUS who cares about people LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #5
Heh heh....thats one way to cull the federal workforce of red hats. LiberalLovinLug Jul 2021 #8
I thought unvaccinated people were already supposed to wear masks & distance at work? MichMan Jul 2021 #9
I think a lot of people are still working from home Deminpenn Jul 2021 #14
This is pretty clever Tarc Jul 2021 #11
Are members of Congress greymattermom Jul 2021 #15
Vaccines need to be mandated djm5971 Jul 2021 #16

zuul

(14,624 posts)
1. I hope they're given the brain-tickler tests . . .
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 06:59 PM
Jul 2021

the one’s that go so far up your nostril that the technician can touch your noodle. After one of those tests, the anti-vaxxers would beg for the shot.

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
2. I am waiting for DeSatan to send me my $100 for getting mine months ago.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 07:08 PM
Jul 2021

Why, pray tell, should the stupid get a reward? I think they should get a $100 fine they can have rescinded by getting vaccinated. It should double every day until they do.

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,031 posts)
6. We all benefit.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 08:21 PM
Jul 2021

I bet this was planned long ago. They probably have other incentives planned, before the stick comes out. President Biden will get this done 1 way or another.

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
10. If COVID isn't an incentive, a c-note will be?
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 09:33 PM
Jul 2021

I get to wear a mask again because these idiots won't get vaccinated. Time for the stick IMHO.

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,031 posts)
17. For some of the remaining it will be.
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 11:19 AM
Jul 2021

We all get to wear a mask again because vaccinated people infected with delta have measurable viral loads similar to those who are unvaccinated and infected with the variant. The risk has risen. Fortunately the vaccine is effective at preventing hospitalization and death. Our President knows this, and I trust him when he encourages this for the unvaxed. I think it would be better if the already vaccinated got $200

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Deminpenn

(15,278 posts)
4. Reasonable
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 07:53 PM
Jul 2021

Doubt many fed civil servants will object. It will be interesting to see how this works at agencies that have both civilian employees and active military like the Pentagon, for example, or any DoD activity. Departments, etc, usually have a military in charge with a civilian deputy. My activity was over 90% civilian where the military did the bulk of travelling.

Pas-de-Calais

(9,904 posts)
7. Retired fed in 12/20 here
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 08:27 PM
Jul 2021

Fully vaccinated 04/30
There be plenty of feds who will crab, bitch, moan about this.
Same ones who disliked #44. Heard way too many do this back in the day
Believe #46 has informed the contractors something similar

Deminpenn

(15,278 posts)
13. I'm sure there'll be some,
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 12:08 AM
Jul 2021

but in the federal civil service management holds all the cards. The unions can object, but in my time I saw management do an excellent job of divide and conquer with the bargaining unit members. Most of the bargaining unit employees in my activity felt the union just served to protect those who were lazy, didn't, couldn't or wouldn't do their jobs and deserved to be fired.

There won't be any escaping the consequences of being or remaining unvaccinated in federal offices or buildings.

The federal contractors will comply because they won't risk losing their contracts.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
8. Heh heh....thats one way to cull the federal workforce of red hats.
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 08:53 PM
Jul 2021

I don't care if the GOP try to frame it like that either. I think the public overall will side with common sense, over partisan political conspiracy theories.

OMG the gob'mint is forcing federal workers to stay alive!!!

MichMan

(11,910 posts)
9. I thought unvaccinated people were already supposed to wear masks & distance at work?
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 09:14 PM
Jul 2021

Why is the federal government just adding this now ?

Isn't that what the CDC and OSHA recommended months ago when the mask mandate for everyone was lifted? That going maskless was OK if and only if you were vaccinated. That is how every place I have entered since then states on the entrances.

Sounds like unvaccinated federal employees were allowed to go maskless anyway in violation of the CDC and OSHA requirements.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
11. This is pretty clever
Thu Jul 29, 2021, 10:38 PM
Jul 2021

Trying to remove unvaccinated federal employees from their positions would have been a protracted, pitched battle.

This simply places extra safeguards on the unvaccinated, arguably for their own protection. They won't have a legal leg to stand on in objection.

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