AOC blames Democrats for letting eviction moratorium expire, says Biden wasn't 'forthright'

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

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Source: USA Today

WASHINGTON — U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-New York, blamed Democratic leadership for allowing the nation's eviction moratorium to expire and said the White House wasn't being "forthright" about its desire for Congress to act until it was too late.

The Democratic-controlled House adjourned Friday without extending the moratorium that was put in place to help renters amid the coronavirus pandemic. It expired Sunday, leaving progressive Democrats like Ocasio-Cortez outraged and demanding that the House return from its August recess.

Ocasio-Cortez said House Democratic leadership had an opportunity to hold a vote on extending the moratorium last week, but "there was frankly a handful of conservative Democrats in the House that threatened to get on planes rather than hold this vote.

"We have to really just call a spade a spade," she said in an interview Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union." "We cannot in good faith blame House Republicans when Democrats have the majority."

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[Dream Girl]

1. Why didn't she and others raise this months/weeks ago. Sounds like the progressive caucus was

Caught flar footed and looking to pass the buck

[question everything]

62. Ah, raising it weeks ago would not generate headlines

would it?

[LenaBaby61]

2. AOC blames Democrats for letting eviction moratorium expire, says Biden wasn't 'forthright'

[padah513]

3. This is getting old

[agingdem]

4. AOC you have a beef with Biden...take it to your caucus..

meet with HUD officials, work like hell to change minds and get it done but shut up on tv...we've got enough screaming Gyms/Kevins/Teds/Marcos/Lindsays coming at us with their insane bullshit, we don't need you give them ammunition...

apologies to all those who are AOC fans...I'm not one of them...

[LakeArenal]

5. I agree.

[womanofthehills]

21. AOC gives an honest answer about conservative house Dems

Link to tweet

?s=21

[marie999]

6. Before I heard what she said I had already wanted to know why the Democrats didn't vote to extend

the moratorium. Why did they let it lapse?

[Autumn]

12. Good question. They should have been on top of this.

To hear the "Republicans blocked it" excuse, when we have the majority is bull.

[brush]

7. Is she a Democrat or what?

As another poster mentioned, why didn't she raise this issue before the deadline approached? Was something wrong with her phone or email program? She should've been working the lines of communication long before this if this was so important to her.

She never misses a chance to publicly bash her own party.

[Autumn]

13. She has been on this issue, along with a few others like Maxine Waters. I think leadeship

should have been on it It's been known for a while it was going to expire.shrug:

The House failed to extend the national moratorium on evictions Friday, with Democratic leaders needling the White House for the inaction that could result in millions of people across the country losing their homes.

"Really, we only learned about this yesterday,” Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters after Democrats tried to extend the moratorium, only to have Republicans object.


The failed vote came after Pelosi and her top two deputies huddled with House Financial Services Chair Maxine Waters on Friday evening to try to reach a solution. The leadership team even went down a list one by one, calling their caucus’s remaining hold-outs — a last-gasp campaign that took place as lawmakers grew more frustrated by the hour at the delay of the August recess.

Pelosi, who thanked Waters for her work on the issue, acknowledged part of the problem was the last-minute notice from White House about the need to handle legislatively.

“Not really enough time to socialize it within our caucus to build... the consensus necessary,” Pelosi added.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/30/eviction-battle-house-democrats-501758

[lapucelle]

8. Who were the Democratic holdouts who said they'd vote "no" on the 3 month extension Maxine Waters

and Nancy Pelosi put together and wanted to put to a vote?

Democratic push to extend eviction moratorium fizzles in the House

Top Democratic leaders tried to find the votes to pass the eviction moratorium, but the bid failed Friday evening.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/30/eviction-battle-house-democrats-501758

[TexasBushwhacker]

9. IMHO, the bigger part of the problem is that states

have not distributed the aid that has been allocated to them.

[maxsolomon]

10. did the moratorium need senatorial approval?

yes? then it was fucked.

[Historic NY]

11. Biden can only sign a bill they present...

maybe if she spent some time in DC instead of Texas and Ohio. She would have known that. Maybe she know that NY Gov. has signed an extension until August 21st.
Perhaps Congress should have been finding out why sate were doing whatever with the money.

[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/07/30/evictions-moratorium-expire-rental-assistance/|]

12 percent was spent. There was 46 billion just sitting around. Ask yourself who wrote the bill?


Legislation (S.6362-A/A.7175-A) Extends the Moratorium on COVID-related Residential and Commercial Evictions and Foreclosure Proceedings for Those Filing a Hardship Declaration Until August 31, 2021

Adds to New York State's Efforts to Protect Tenants and Homeowners Undergoing Economic Hardship Due to COVID-19


[link:https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-signs-extension-covid-19-emergency-eviction-and-foreclosure-prevention-act-2020|]

[DallasNE]

14. AOC Is Both Right And Wrong

She is right that extending it was in the hands of the Democratic majority in the House. But Biden was right in letting it expire. A lot of smaller landlords are at risk of losing their rental business to the bank due to their income stream drying up. Standing in the way is the anti-vaxxers that keep the pandemic fueled. AOC should be targeting the anti-vaxxers for her scorn.

[womanofthehills]

26. The bill would pay back rent to landlords

Link to tweet

?s=21

[quaint]

15. "Unfortunately, the Supreme Court has made clear that this option is no longer available."

AP 7/29

“Given the recent spread of the delta variant, including among those Americans both most likely to face evictions and lacking vaccinations, President Biden would have strongly supported a decision by the CDC to further extend this eviction moratorium to protect renters at this moment of heightened vulnerability,” the White House said in a statement. “Unfortunately, the Supreme Court has made clear that this option is no longer available.”

Aides to Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Sen. Sherrod Brown, the chairman of the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs, said the two are working on legislation to extend the moratorium. Democrats will try to pass a bill as soon as possible and are urging Republicans not to block it.

In the House, a bill was introduced Thursday to extended the moratorium until the end of the year. But the prospect of a legislative solution remained unclear.

The court mustered a bare 5-4 majority last month, to allow the eviction ban to continue through the end of July. One of those in the majority, Justice Brett Kavanaugh, made clear he would block any additional extensions unless there was “clear and specific congressional authorization.”

[aocommunalpunch]

18. I wonder how the debate would go

if the executive did it anyway and made the conversation about how uninvestigated Kavanaugh wants to kick people out on the street? I guess we'll never know.

[womanofthehills]

35. Kicking children out in the street during a pandemic

So, first the kids can’t go to school and now they will have no home. How can Americans do this to our kids? Cori said she once lived in her car with a baby and a toddler. She was always afraid social services would find out and take her kids.

Link to tweet

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[FloridaBlues]

16. Blame the states for not getting the money out that was given to states in rescue plan.

Only 20% given out here in Florida as well in other states
Spread the blame evenly AOC.

[womanofthehills]

37. You have not been paying attention- AOC has been blaming governors too

Link to tweet

?s=21

[NurseJackie]

17. AOC says Biden wasn't 'forthright' -- WTF? Ridiculous!

AOC blames Democrats ... says Biden wasn't 'forthright'

WTF? Ridiculous! What an absurd cockamamie thing to say! This takes the cake!

[George II]

28. (our all-time favorite actress!)

[womanofthehills]

29. We have the house. It could have been passed.

Now thousands of babies and kids will probably join the rest of the homeless living in cars and tents.

[Bettie]

43. But, a particular group gets to bash AOC

who is also a Democrat, but apparently is on a list of those who it is OK to bash anytime they want to!

So, a win for a certain group who live for that.

[padah513]

47. What the...

She's bashing a Democratic president! She always bashes Democratic party members. What the heck is up with that?

[Progressive Lawyer]

19. The Biden Admin blaming this on the SCOTUS is a cop out excuse.

Just because the SCOTUS ruled a certain way (5-4 decision no less) does not take away the President's practical ability to act differently. Every President has been at odds with the SCOTUS. The President is supposed to act in a way he or she believes is Constitutional. So if he thinks an executive order extending the CDC moratorium is Constitutional, then he should order it. Then defend his order in court. It the SCOTUS rejects that opinion, then so be it.

The Biden Admin should have just said the SCOTUS ruled one way, and Biden agrees with it that's why he is not extending the moratorium by executive order.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

22. Are you really a lawyer?

What you just said doesn't make a lick of sense.

[George II]

24. Yep. Biden has been a lawyer for 50 years, Senator for 35 years, VP for 8 years, and now....

....President.

I suspect President Biden knows what he can and can't do.

[Progressive Lawyer]

30. What does not make sense? That the President should act in a way he believes is Constitutional?

That argument makes perfect sense to me.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

31. Look up checks and balances in the U.S. Constitution.

[Progressive Lawyer]

34. Exactly, no branch of government is superior to the other. Which means the SCOTUS is not superior..

...then the executive. Simply because the SCOTUS says something does not automatically mean the President must obey if the President has a sincere disagreement. If the President had to obey the SCOTUS absolutely, then that would mean the SCOTUS is superior to the Executive, which means there would be no balance.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

38. The Supreme Court determines the Constitutionality of a law

Always has since Marbury vs Madison.

Your logic is something Trump would follow.

[Progressive Lawyer]

42. I never argued otherwise. I said the President should act in a way he believes is Constitutional.

Since the President did not extend the moratorium by executive order, then logical conclusion is he does not believe it would be Constitutional to do so. So just come and say it instead of blaming the SCOTUS as if the Judicial branch is superior to the Executive. It is not.

[George II]

23. Please give us one example of a President going against a decision of the Supreme Court.

[Progressive Lawyer]

32. Seriously? Lincoln defied the SCOTUS in regards to slavery.

https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/judicial-supremacy-vs-departmentalism-matthew-j-franck/

[George II]

46. It's questionable that he defied the Supreme Court. There are two examples - he decided to allow....

....free Black Americans to get passports (an end run around the decision) and "he encouraged and signed legislation in 1862 banning slavery in all western territories" - NOT defying the Supreme Court, but getting legislation passed by Congress. This's precisely what today's Supreme Court said in their decision - the moratorium could not be extended without Congress acting.

Plus, those occurred in the midst of the Civil War. It's questionable whether or not, if there was a dispute, Lincoln could have considered those as "war powers".

[Progressive Lawyer]

50. Even if it is merely "questionable" whether Lincoln defied the SCOTUS, it still proves the SCOTUS...

...is not Superior to the Executive. Which means Lincoln disagreed with the SCOTUS and acted in a manner that he Lincoln believed was Constitutional.

I am not saying that Biden was required to extend the moratorium by EO. If he sincerely believes that the SCOTUS ruling was correct, then he is well within his right to refuse sot extend it.

But that is not what the Admin is putting out there. Rather the admin is putting out the message that the SCOTUS ruled the moratorium unconstitutional, so Biden couldn't do anything about it. That is a cop out because the SCOTUS is not superior to the Executive.

[George II]

55. At the time, in 1862, there was no one in the US that I can find who challenged his decisions, AND..

...as pointed out, neither openly defied the Supreme Court.

1. He had passports issued to Blacks, with the implication that they were citizens but not explicitly saying they were.
2. He encouraged legislation, exactly what the 2021 Supreme court said would be a remedy for extending the moratorium.

That was in 1862, in the middle of the Civil War, and only 73 years after the creation of the Constitution. We now have 159 more years' worth of "precedent", and Constitutional law is a lot more developed than it was back then.

Finally, perhaps President Biden doesn't believe an EO extending the moratorium is Constitutional. Why not take a meeting with him and find out?

[Progressive Lawyer]

58. But that's not what Biden's spokes people are saying.

Finally, perhaps President Biden doesn't believe an EO extending the moratorium is Constitutional. Why not take a meeting with him and find out?

Well if the Biden is of that position, then his own admin teams is saying something else. I don't remember any spokesperson saying that Biden agreed with the SOCTUS ruling on the moratorium. Maybe I missed it?

And why would I need to take a meeting with Biden just to find out his position on one of the most hotly debated topics of the past year? I expect his Admin to put out his opinion, just like everyone else.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

36. Andrew Jackson when he relocated the Cherokee Nation to Oklahoma.

Other than that I can't think of any.

John Marshall has made his decision

now let him enforce it.

Those are the famous words uttered by President Andrew Jackson in relation to U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall’s 1832 decision in Worcester v. Georgia to strike down a Georgia law that imposed regulations on the comings and goings of white people in Native American land.

https://sustainatlanta.com/2015/04/02/remembering-the-time-andrew-jackson-decided-to-ignore-the-supreme-court-in-the-name-of-georgias-right-to-cherokee-land/

[ColinC]

20. She is blaming him for not working more with congress to extend it

...not because he didn't have the power to singlehandedly extend it.

[George II]

25. That goes two ways. When did SHE work with him to get something done? All she's been doing....

...is finding fault with Biden.

[NurseJackie]

33. "AOC vows progressives will 'tank' the bipartisan infrastructure bill if a reconciliation bill..."

Last edited Sun Aug 1, 2021, 03:58 PM - Edit history (1)

https://news.yahoo.com/aoc-vows-progressives-tank-bipartisan-142012738.html

AOC vows progressives will 'tank' the bipartisan infrastructure bill if a reconciliation bill including more care-economy and climate change measures isn't passed in tandem

Business Insider


https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/business-insider/

[ColinC]

40. Her statement:

"We asked the Biden administration for their stance, and they were not being really forthright about that advocacy and that request until the day before the House adjourned," she said. "The House was put into a needlessly difficult situation."

Assuming she isn't lying, they have been trying to communicate with him well before this deadline has been approaching and right after the SCOTUS rulings. That being said, congress could have passed something a long time ago, which is also part of AOCs statement -something she doesn't single handedly have the power to do.

[womanofthehills]

39. She is blaming him for putting it off till it was too late

[ColinC]

41. Yea

[George II]

27. Pretty interesting quote you have there:

"We have to really just call a spade a spade," she said in an interview Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union." "We cannot in good faith blame House Republicans when Democrats have the majority."

She's part of that majority, Biden isn't. What has she done to extend the moratorium except show up at the Capitol last night at the moment the moratorium expired?

[Budi]

45. Gee I sure hope she was PROTECTED BY THE CAPITOL POLICE LAST NITE

Face it. She's got one of the lowest records of accomplishing anything in her 2 years.

Where's that stat referring to her record?
Something like #204 on the list of House members?

If she walked as she talked she'd have rallied the House in a preemptive measure & to send the bill to President Biden's desk.

But nope!
Nadda...

Now she speaks up!! 🙄

Gtfouttahere.

[George II]

49. Here are those who have voted the least with Biden's position out of 223 members:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/house/

216 93.90% Jamaal Bowman D NY-16
217 91.20% Ron Kind D WI-3
217 91.20% Ilhan Omar D MN-5
217 91.20% Ayanna Pressley D MA-7
220 90.60% Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez D NY-14
220 90.60% Rashida Tlaib D MI-13
222 87.90% Cori Bush D MO-1
223 80.00% Jared Golden D ME-2

203 of the 223 have voted with Biden 100% of the time.

[Budi]

52. Well well well. Any one of them could have gotten their group together en force

But as we clearly see by these rating #s.

Why would we have expected the talker-not-walkers to have done the job they now blame the President for.
His job was to Sign Their Bill. Which apparantly was not even on their radar.

Maybe they could have got behind Maxine Waters or Pelosi when they sounded the alarm.
I guess letting it tank made for good media memes to blame anybody (Biden) but themselves.

And they wanna rule the country!!?
God help us all.

[Naio]

48. AOC me estoy cansando de tu mierd@..

Always criticizing President Biden … 😡

[padah513]

51. Lol you and me both

[George II]

56. Bazinga!

[marble falls]

53. I agree with her anger. I disagree with who she's angry with. I think Joe's is aiming at the ...

... states like Florida, which received around $2 Billions and haven't distributed 2% of it. And there's a bunch of them like that. People are blaming the Fed, they need to be questioning their state governments. It's like the states want the interest from the billions hoping if this plan collapses that they can hold onto the money, anyway.

[padah513]

54. +1000

[George II]

57. Maybe she was expecting him to send her a tweet to explain his position on this issue?

[Cinnamonspice]

59. I have to say....

Pelosi claiming it just came up on them was lame.

[Iggo]

60. She's half right.

[andym]

61. AOC's wrong--No way that bill could pass the Senate

it would have been filibustered by the GOP since they will side with the property owners=landlords. So what happened in the House does not matter.

[Omaha Steve]

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