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demmiblue

(36,816 posts)
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 11:15 AM Aug 2021

Trump seeks to block Treasury Department from giving his tax returns to Congress

Source: NBC

Lawyers for Donald Trump urged a federal judge Wednesday to block the Treasury Department and the IRS from handing his tax returns over to the House Ways and Means Committee.

The committee’s stated reason for seeking the returns, to examine how the IRS audits presidents, is simply a pretext for wanting to look for something embarrassing, the lawyers said in a filing in federal court in Washington, adding that the legal authority invoked by Congress has never been used against a president, a former president or any elected official.

“While House Democrats had offered countless justifications for obtaining the president’s tax returns, no one at the time had ever mentioned a desire to find out how the IRS audits presidents," they said

The committee chairman's request for Trump's tax returns "bore little resemblance to an effort to investigate how the IRS audits presidents. It asked for the information of only one president, asked for open files for which audits have not been completed, and never asked the IRS for the most relevant information — namely, how it audits presidents,” they said.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-seeks-block-treasury-department-handing-over-his-tax-returns-n1275907

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Trump seeks to block Treasury Department from giving his tax returns to Congress (Original Post) demmiblue Aug 2021 OP
The bastard will probably get away with it. He always does. walkingman Aug 2021 #1
It has to annoy him though. We've got that. twodogsbarking Aug 2021 #10
Doubt it DENVERPOPS Aug 2021 #34
How many SYCOPHANTS enable him? Tiger8 Aug 2021 #43
Taxes rso Aug 2021 #2
This. Justice matters. Aug 2021 #36
There's a shocker. n/t Harker Aug 2021 #3
Maybe ... BlueWavePsych Aug 2021 #4
He's so modest. Turbineguy Aug 2021 #5
Lol EarlG Aug 2021 #6
I know right? padah513 Aug 2021 #7
Always the victim Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #15
So does the entire RW. as well as evangelicals. "Poor me. Nobody likes me." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2021 #46
If he fucked himself as hard as I want him to go fuck himself Orrex Aug 2021 #8
Friggin' HILARIOUS!!! poli-junkie Aug 2021 #19
How could he do that with that little mushroom of his???? sdfernando Aug 2021 #28
Hmm... You make a compelling point. Orrex Aug 2021 #41
TFG "doth protest too much" pandr32 Aug 2021 #9
They didn't have to ask for the tax returns of other presidents bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #11
Didn't they have to ask for Nixon's taxes ? rickford66 Aug 2021 #12
I remember Spiro's tax problems bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #16
This is his standard operating practice: file a lawsuit. Texin Aug 2021 #13
That's one long audit hibbing Aug 2021 #14
It's like spaghetti noodles without the sauce... Justice matters. Aug 2021 #37
They're complaining that no other President has had their tax returns subpoenaed. NellieStarbuck Aug 2021 #17
My understanding Bayard Aug 2021 #18
Exactly. No reasoner justfication. The law is clear. Dream Girl Aug 2021 #24
NY has the state sheets. n/t Justice matters. Aug 2021 #38
He's still playing that "under audit" game. Shit, have the IRS close the audits, release.... George II Aug 2021 #20
Dude is definitely hiding something shady IronLionZion Aug 2021 #21
Imagine if his bankers found the fantasy behind his loan apps bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #25
He is only the second President to be subject to criminal investigation. NNadir Aug 2021 #22
Both republicans... Escurumbele Aug 2021 #42
I am a lawyer and I just quit. The system makes no sense, and I don't need the headache. housecat Aug 2021 #23
How many times Snackshack Aug 2021 #26
They got this from Capone's attorneys. It's plagiarism, plain and simple. jaxexpat Aug 2021 #27
If there's nothing embarassing dianaredwing Aug 2021 #29
Internal Revenue Service "shall furnish" the returns of any taxpayer Jon King Aug 2021 #30
After five years of this Steelrolled Aug 2021 #31
Okay Don, you got us jmowreader Aug 2021 #32
Also asks " "to end all ongoing examinations" of Trump and his companies. riversedge Aug 2021 #33
It will fail, just like his frivolous 60+ other lawsuits for overturning the election. Justice matters. Aug 2021 #39
You are correct. There is no prestige or gains representing that thug, why do they lend themselves Escurumbele Aug 2021 #44
If his tax returns would silence his critics, he would have released them several years ago bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #35
Stall, stall, stall, intrepidity Aug 2021 #40
FFS-- didn't the supreme court already decide this??? LymphocyteLover Aug 2021 #45
Neal Katyal roasts Trump on tax return decision, "we finally found a draft Trump couldn't dodge." LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #47

DENVERPOPS

(8,787 posts)
34. Doubt it
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:11 PM
Aug 2021

He continues to laugh his ass off as he has for the last decade about anything that they want from him.

He will die of old age before they ever get near getting him into the court system on anything, you just watch.....

 

Tiger8

(432 posts)
43. How many SYCOPHANTS enable him?
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 04:19 PM
Aug 2021

Trump has never done a damn thing for the endless parade of stupid enablers and sycophants who have enabled him.


Except for the racism, corruption, brutality, theocracy and other forms of evil that he promises....like the fat bastard con man he is.

rso

(2,267 posts)
2. Taxes
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 11:22 AM
Aug 2021

The Judge will dismiss it with prejudice, as the law is quite clear on the authority of the House to access tax returns.

Turbineguy

(37,285 posts)
5. He's so modest.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 11:36 AM
Aug 2021

He doesn't want people to know how generous he is on paying his taxes. Just like Jesus said:

"Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward." – Matthew 6:2

EarlG

(21,932 posts)
6. Lol
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 11:37 AM
Aug 2021
The committee chairman's request for Trump's tax returns "bore little resemblance to an effort to investigate how the IRS audits presidents. It asked for the information of only one president..."

Maybe that's because every single other president in recent history simply released all of their tax returns to the public so everyone could see that nothing shady was going on, until this asshole came along.
46. So does the entire RW. as well as evangelicals. "Poor me. Nobody likes me."
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 05:55 PM
Aug 2021

And the ridiculously rich, of course. "Why does everyone think I should pay taxes? Don't they know how many people I employ to build my yachts and rocket ships?"

Orrex

(63,169 posts)
8. If he fucked himself as hard as I want him to go fuck himself
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 12:45 PM
Aug 2021

He’d explode like the orange balloon full of liquid pig shit that he is.

sdfernando

(4,923 posts)
28. How could he do that with that little mushroom of his????
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:36 PM
Aug 2021

...and I think it would take longer than 2 minutes! LOL!!!!

Orrex

(63,169 posts)
41. Hmm... You make a compelling point.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 04:10 PM
Aug 2021

Perhaps he could employ some sort of prosthetic in this balloon popping endeavor.

bucolic_frolic

(43,028 posts)
11. They didn't have to ask for the tax returns of other presidents
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 01:09 PM
Aug 2021

Those presidents released them voluntarily. So the "facts" behind their logic are pure vapor.

hibbing

(10,094 posts)
14. That's one long audit
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 01:16 PM
Aug 2021

I thought that was why he was not releasing them. If anyone is the market for a bridge..


Peace

Justice matters.

(6,915 posts)
37. It's like spaghetti noodles without the sauce...
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:45 PM
Aug 2021
Frauds and money launderings hidden through millions of transactions between thousands of LLCs...

NellieStarbuck

(265 posts)
17. They're complaining that no other President has had their tax returns subpoenaed.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 01:19 PM
Aug 2021

I seem to recall that no other President has refused to turn over their tax returns, so that was never necessary before.

Bayard

(22,004 posts)
18. My understanding
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 01:27 PM
Aug 2021

Was that Congress doesn't need a reason. If they want them from any citizen, you have to hand them over.

TFG acts like he has a choice. Besides, doesn't NY already have them?

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. He's still playing that "under audit" game. Shit, have the IRS close the audits, release....
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 01:44 PM
Aug 2021

....the returns, and then open the audits again.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
21. Dude is definitely hiding something shady
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 01:46 PM
Aug 2021

that he doesn't want Congress to see. Interesting to say it's something embarrassing. Maybe he's broke!

bucolic_frolic

(43,028 posts)
25. Imagine if his bankers found the fantasy behind his loan apps
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:06 PM
Aug 2021

Did I mention I'm worth a billion six in my own mind?

I have to compound at 34% for 80 years, but still ... I'm on the way.

NNadir

(33,457 posts)
22. He is only the second President to be subject to criminal investigation.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 01:51 PM
Aug 2021

The other was pardoned before the complete investigation even started.

Escurumbele

(3,374 posts)
42. Both republicans...
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 04:18 PM
Aug 2021

it is a vicious cycle, republicans take power the country goes to crap, Democrats take power and they fix it, then republicans take over and the country goes to crap, Democrats take over they fix it again, and the vicious cycle repeats itself...why is it that people don't learn!

jaxexpat

(6,795 posts)
27. They got this from Capone's attorneys. It's plagiarism, plain and simple.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:32 PM
Aug 2021

Except for where it had said "racketeer or mob boss" was changed to president or slum lord.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
30. Internal Revenue Service "shall furnish" the returns of any taxpayer
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:45 PM
Aug 2021

Its amazing this will drag on and on and on. The statute is simple, shall furnish does not mean only sometimes, for some people.

riversedge

(70,051 posts)
33. Also asks " "to end all ongoing examinations" of Trump and his companies.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:01 PM
Aug 2021


The Trump legal team’s court filing Wednesday asked a federal judge not only to block Treasury from handing over the tax returns, but also to order the Ways and Means Committee "to end all ongoing examinations" of Trump and his companies.

Justice matters.

(6,915 posts)
39. It will fail, just like his frivolous 60+ other lawsuits for overturning the election.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:52 PM
Aug 2021
I can't believe there still are lawyers out there willing to lose their credibility without ever getting paid for their sham by that orange terrorist!

Escurumbele

(3,374 posts)
44. You are correct. There is no prestige or gains representing that thug, why do they lend themselves
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 04:22 PM
Aug 2021

to it?

What is in their minds? They are not going to get paid, they will be thrown under the bus sometime later, his peers won't look at them in a favorable light again, some may be suspended or disbarred...I mean, WHY???

intrepidity

(7,272 posts)
40. Stall, stall, stall,
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:59 PM
Aug 2021

stall, stall, stall, and then for good measure, stall some more.

That's all he is doing and ever does. Because it works.

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