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kpete

(71,984 posts)
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:46 PM Jan 2012

Nancy Pelosi: GOP knows Mitt Romney can’t win

Nancy Pelosi: GOP knows Mitt Romney can’t win

“If the far right thought that Romney could win, they might be more enthusiastic about him,” Pelosi told POLITICO’s Mike Allen during Tuesday’s Playbook Breakfast. “But they question what he stands for and they don’t think he’s going to win. So what’s the sell? I’m not sure he knows what he stands for, and that makes it harder too.”

“I don’t know who knows him,” she added of Romney. “Does he know him?”

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“He’s not going to be president,” Pelosi said. “But I think it’s indicative of a hard line that doesn’t seem consistent with who he was as governor.”

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“This is a Congress that has done such a disservice to our country,” Pelosi said. “Bless their hearts. They do what they believe, these Republicans. They do what they believe. And they do not believe in a government that has any role in clean air, clean water, food safety, public safety, public health, public education, Medicare, Medicaid.”



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/71531.html#ixzz1jjrVG7ea

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Nancy Pelosi: GOP knows Mitt Romney can’t win (Original Post) kpete Jan 2012 OP
The MePublicans are not pro-public anything. callous taoboy Jan 2012 #1
I agree. Life Long Dem Jan 2012 #2
You're forgetting all the national leadership skills Romney has been secretly developing... Orsino Jan 2012 #4
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #3
wrong on so many levels. unblock Jan 2012 #5
She's not really helping fundraising efforts with comments like that. MGKrebs Jan 2012 #6
She's rubbing their noses in it. randome Jan 2012 #11
Romney won't win even with the all-time greatest vote fraud in U.S. history? GOP must be slipping! Cal33 Jan 2012 #7
I don't believe the GOP want the presidency yet BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #8
It's not strategy. randome Jan 2012 #12
If only I could believe BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #22
I don't understand this "strategy" at all. Cal33 Jan 2012 #18
I don't either. MGKrebs Jan 2012 #30
+1 rtassi Jan 2012 #19
And Nancy Pelosi is trying to tell us something very important here. BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #9
I agree about their waiting for 2016. I think they are just using thei election snagglepuss Jan 2012 #10
Me, too. BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #23
At least it isn't now Napoleon838 Jan 2012 #13
Y'all are crazy if you think Mitt Romney doesn't want to win, and MGKrebs Jan 2012 #14
It's not about winning elections. It's about winning power BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #24
Not the right time for who? MGKrebs Jan 2012 #25
"Good" GOP candidates are smart enough to sit this one out KeepItReal Jan 2012 #26
Thank you! I'm sure that poster BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #27
Individual candidates sitting out is different than MGKrebs Jan 2012 #28
It's not a conspiracy. It's, as I've pointed out in my post, a strategy. BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #29
Jeb didn't run because 3 Bush's in 20 years would be MGKrebs Jan 2012 #31
“I don’t know who knows him,” she added of Romney. “Does he know him?” yellowcanine Jan 2012 #15
and "what they believe", by definition, has squat to do with real world phenomena & THAT'S the point patrice Jan 2012 #16
I think she's right. They will be rebuilding for 2016, I think. MADem Jan 2012 #17
Yes and Ineeda Jan 2012 #32
yeah thanks Nancy Skittles Jan 2012 #20
The upshot is: once mittens loses, we will never have to see him again... Javaman Jan 2012 #21
From Politico. What does that tell you? Quantess Jan 2012 #33
 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
2. I agree.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:52 PM
Jan 2012

Romney couldn't even beat McCain last time around. So I doubt Republicans think Romney can beat Obama since McCain couldn't even beat him.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
4. You're forgetting all the national leadership skills Romney has been secretly developing...
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:59 PM
Jan 2012

...in the four years since he lost to the last loser. What the hell has Obama been doing in that time?

Oh, yeah. Being fucking president.

Response to kpete (Original post)

unblock

(52,196 posts)
5. wrong on so many levels.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:07 PM
Jan 2012

for starters, it was rather obvious, certainly to the big money, that there was simply no way republicans were keeping the white house. shrub had tarnished the brand far too much for them to recover.

this is why so much money poured in to the democratic primary campaign, because that was the contest that would pick the next president. the republican primary was simply about picking who got the privilege to lose.


as for the rest of your post, i'm sure any arguments i made would be simply banging my head against the wall.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
7. Romney won't win even with the all-time greatest vote fraud in U.S. history? GOP must be slipping!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:36 PM
Jan 2012

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
8. I don't believe the GOP want the presidency yet
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 03:14 PM
Jan 2012

They're waiting for another Democrat to steer this country back on track and flourish - like they did with President Clinton - and then they'll pull out all the stops in 2016 for Bush 3.0 or Christie to do another Bush 2.0 in 2016.

Mark my words. This is the strategy exactly.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
22. If only I could believe
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 02:11 AM
Jan 2012

that were true. But considering the incredible strategy they'd put in place in 2000 in order to get Bush 2.0 into the WH, and the concerted efforts they'd deployed to the run up of the 2010 midterms, I can't believe they'd be this disorganized now.

But I'm hoping you're right and I'm wrong, and that this is the start of the Fall of the Republican Empire. I'd be much happier.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
30. I don't either.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 02:02 PM
Jan 2012

I can't imagine Karl Rove spending $240 million of other peoples money just to pretend to be a player. Sure would make it harder to fundraise next time.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
9. And Nancy Pelosi is trying to tell us something very important here.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 03:20 PM
Jan 2012

If Romney wins before America is back on more stable economical footing, the GOP will further destroy this country until it's irreparable. How is Bush 3.0 or Christie going to win in 2016?

Willard would've been butt hurt if he didn't at least get the GOP establishment to back his lifelong dream of becoming president so they sent him in for this round knowing he can't win from Obama. NONE of their candidates can. That's not by chance. That's by careful design.

No. She knows, as Matthews has predicted, that the GOP is keeping their powder dry until 2016 when Obama has brought this country back on track like President Clinton has been able to do, and then let their lackey wreck everything again for two terms.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
23. Me, too.
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 02:15 AM
Jan 2012

They're setting their sights on 2016, and hoping the economy will be back on track by then.

I can't believe they're this disorganized, not after having seen how meticulous they were in 2000 to get Bush into the WH and how everything unfolded in the run up to the 2010 midterms. Suddenly they don't know how to choose a viable candidate to go against President Obama now? It just doesn't make sense.

Napoleon838

(9 posts)
13. At least it isn't now
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 04:00 PM
Jan 2012

I agree that it would make them look less bad after the econ has recovered, but at least the GOP wont get the white house until then. Romney would be the best of a worst case, he seems to have more sense then the other Republicans at least.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
14. Y'all are crazy if you think Mitt Romney doesn't want to win, and
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 04:37 PM
Jan 2012

Karl Rove doesn't want to win, and Rush Limbaugh doesn't want to win.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
24. It's not about winning elections. It's about winning power
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 02:17 AM
Jan 2012

at the right time, and now is not the right time.

After 2000 and 2010, do you seriously think this cadre of clowns being paraded for our entertainment is a serious attempt to win the WH?

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
25. Not the right time for who?
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 09:22 AM
Jan 2012

Who is pulling the strings? You are saying someone is telling the good candidates to not run this time and making all these guys run just to have a dog and pony show for us?

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
26. "Good" GOP candidates are smart enough to sit this one out
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 09:39 AM
Jan 2012

Obama is going to be hard to beat for re-election in part due to the current do-nothing, GOP and Tea Party-strangled Congress.

What is the GOP offering? Blocked unemployment insurance benefits, union busting, more tax cuts for rich folks that didn't even ask for them originally?

People can at least point to Obama and see *some* successes at turning the country away from 8 failed Bush years.


BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
27. Thank you! I'm sure that poster
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 11:40 AM
Jan 2012

knew this exactly, too, but apparently feels the irrepressible need to defend the GOP's not-so-subtle strategy.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
28. Individual candidates sitting out is different than
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 12:20 PM
Jan 2012

implying a conspiracy that is controlling who runs and who doesn't. I'm all for a good conspiracy though, so I was just asking who you think it is that is parading these candidates for our entertainment.
And I take offense at your accusation that I am defending some sort of GOP strategy.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
29. It's not a conspiracy. It's, as I've pointed out in my post, a strategy.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 01:59 PM
Jan 2012

The GOP and the monied Powers That Be, and perhaps even some so-called monied Democratic backers, are backing this GOP cadre of clowns.

Some people were pretty shocked when neither Jeb Bush or Chris Christie tossed their hats into the race for the WH. They wanted to, that much was clear, but they suddenly backed out after meeting with so-called captains of industry.

The economy is still too weak to have them in the WH pushing their tax-cuts-trickle-down-economics bee ess. They'll keep their powder dry until 2016 when the American electorate isn't so pissed off at the Republicans. Once we calm down, jobs open up, the economy looks as if it's going the right direction, THEN they'll put in their formidable candidates and pull out all the stops - just like they did in 2000 when Clinton and the Democrats got us back on track.

The American electorate had gotten lazy and some overreached, thinking it was safe to vote third party and voila! Duhbya was crowned King!

They plan to enact the same strategy in 2015 because it works.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
31. Jeb didn't run because 3 Bush's in 20 years would be
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 06:39 PM
Jan 2012

hard to swallow after hammering Mrs. Clinton last time around.
Christie didn't run because he's too fat. He'll never win a national election, he couldn't even campaign nationally without having a heart attack, although somebody might appoint him to something.

I don't have any inside knowledge, but I can be pretty sure that Republicans are not trying to lose. As evidence, I will suggest that they will probably exceed campaign spending from last time, the Super PAC's are already all-in, they desperately want to repeal the health care law and they need control of the Justice Department to do that.

Sure, some candidates are sitting out because the time isn't ripe for them, but that can be said at any election season.
Also, remember, it's about delegates and this country is closely divided. This website thinks that Obama probably has about 196 safe delegates and the Repub will have about 181 safe delegates, the rest are up for grabs. But it will only take a couple of states like Ohio or PA or Michigan to go the wrong way to lose this one.
http://www.270towin.com/

patrice

(47,992 posts)
16. and "what they believe", by definition, has squat to do with real world phenomena & THAT'S the point
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 06:25 PM
Jan 2012

MADem

(135,425 posts)
17. I think she's right. They will be rebuilding for 2016, I think.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 06:33 PM
Jan 2012

It would behoove us to keep a weather eye on them in the next four years.

Skittles

(153,149 posts)
20. yeah thanks Nancy
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 08:39 PM
Jan 2012

would hate to see them unite and vote for him because of their utter hatred for you

Javaman

(62,517 posts)
21. The upshot is: once mittens loses, we will never have to see him again...
Wed Jan 18, 2012, 12:01 AM
Jan 2012

a loss will kill any future chances.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
33. From Politico. What does that tell you?
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 07:43 PM
Jan 2012

(I'm asking because I don't know what it indicates, that this would be in Politico. It must be telling of something...)

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