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Sun Aug 22, 2021, 10:43 AM

Biden's job ratings decline amid Covid surge, Afghanistan withdrawal in NBC News poll

Source: NBC

WASHINGTON — After a spike in U.S. Covid-19 cases and bipartisan criticism over the chaos from America’s withdrawal from Afghanistan, President Joe Biden's overall job-approval rating has dipped below 50 percent among adults for the first time in his early presidency, according to a new NBC News poll.

The poll also finds fewer Americans support Biden’s handling of the coronavirus and the economy now than they did last spring, and just a quarter of respondents approve of his handling of Afghanistan.

The survey findings demonstrate the public has grown more pessimistic about the coronavirus since April, the country remains split over whether Covid-19 vaccines should be mandated and an electorate is divided over which political party should control Congress after the 2022 midterms.

It’s all produced a “summer of discontent” for Biden, said Democratic pollster Jeff Horwitt of Hart Research Associates, who conducted this survey with Republican pollster Bill McInturff of Public Opinion Strategies.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/biden-s-job-ratings-decline-amid-covid-surge-afghanistan-withdrawal-n1277368

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Reply Biden's job ratings decline amid Covid surge, Afghanistan withdrawal in NBC News poll (Original post)
SouthBayDem Aug 22 OP
samsingh Aug 22 #1
Elessar Zappa Aug 22 #16
onetexan Aug 22 #21
C Moon Aug 22 #31
rockfordfile Aug 23 #39
DownriverDem Aug 22 #24
Warpy Aug 22 #38
Marthe48 Aug 22 #2
JohnSJ Aug 22 #3
lucca18 Aug 22 #4
aggiesal Aug 22 #19
LenaBaby61 Aug 22 #26
dsc Aug 22 #5
LittleGirl Aug 22 #13
Dream Girl Aug 22 #14
LenaBaby61 Aug 22 #27
uponit7771 Aug 22 #6
PortTack Aug 22 #7
mopinko Aug 22 #8
hay rick Aug 22 #11
shotten99 Aug 22 #9
Texaswitchy Aug 22 #10
LenaBaby61 Aug 22 #28
Texaswitchy Aug 22 #29
Dopers_Greed Aug 22 #12
Elessar Zappa Aug 22 #17
Dopers_Greed Aug 22 #25
cloudythescribbler Aug 22 #15
rockfordfile Aug 23 #40
WHITT Aug 22 #18
Moebym Aug 22 #32
WHITT Aug 22 #34
Beastly Boy Aug 22 #20
ffr Aug 22 #22
DjNzx Aug 22 #23
JI7 Aug 22 #30
cayugafalls Aug 22 #33
andym Aug 22 #35
andym Aug 22 #36
Moebym Aug 22 #37

Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 10:48 AM

1. This is what i was fearing would happen - especially on afghistan

which President Biden had more control over than covid.

I was hoping that we could destroy trumpism completely through effective and strong decisions.

Who knows what's going to happen now.

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Response to samsingh (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 12:03 PM

16. It's only temporary.

Once the media stops harping about Afghanistan, his popularity will go back up, especially if the infrastructure bills pass. Biden’s a likable guy, he’ll be ok.

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Response to Elessar Zappa (Reply #16)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 12:23 PM

21. yup, & still much better than the Con's

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Response to Elessar Zappa (Reply #16)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 02:32 PM

31. The GOP is going to "Hillary's Email" this to death.

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Response to C Moon (Reply #31)

Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:54 AM

39. Yeah they would be stupid to do that. It's their fault we're in Afghanistan

There's loads of crap they spewed.

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Response to samsingh (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 12:44 PM

24. Politically speaking

Biden did it in August for a reason.

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Response to samsingh (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 10:13 PM

38. Broadcast media will never blame their porcine ratings god for setting it all up

You have to read print media to learn how many people have gotten out and how many more will get out over the next week.

So yeah, this is temporary. They'll go on to some other mess and be all breathless about it. Maybe they'll discover what murderous shits a lot of GOP governors down south have turned into.

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Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 10:48 AM

2. awareness of recent history erased

This whole situation is like trying to clean up the kitchen after a toddler tried to cook dinner. Some stains might be removed, but some damage is permanant. But you try to make the kitchen usable again.

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Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 10:54 AM

3. The headline should be rephrased. After the continuous one-sided bashing of Biden on

Afghanistan for over a week, along with the increase in Covid cases due primarily to anti-vaxers and republicans.

They played a similar GAME by saying one week before the 2016 election, that the email investigation was reopened. That was a LIE, but for that entire week they paraded every right wing politician across their screens propagating that LIE

F**K THEM!!!

As far as I am concerned, this country deserves everything it gets.







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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 11:01 AM

4. Exactly. Thank you.

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 12:16 PM

19. I agree, I blame the M$M ...

They got used to the TFG's daily dumpster fire that they have to create one.

But, except for Faux Noos, their logic is flawed.
They expect us to watch their prefab dumpster fire, but the only people watching will be MAGA nation.

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 01:11 PM

26. THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

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Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 11:06 AM

5. As a math teacher it infuriates me that people who write about polls for a living

can't be bothered to study even the bare fundamentals of polls. His drop in approval is within the MOE (4 point drop MOE 3.1 which equates to 6.2 when accounting for the fact error can be either direction). The 1 point he is below 50 is not only within the MOE it puts 50 along with 48 as the most likely options aside form 49 as his true approval. This is basic math and if reporters are going to write about polls they should know it.

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Response to dsc (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 11:48 AM

13. Yup. Not a big deal at all. It's Biden bashing season, nt

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Response to dsc (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 11:58 AM

14. I get what you d saying but it's the trend. It may not be statistically significant at this point

 

But the trend is concerning.

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Response to dsc (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 01:16 PM

27. So true to all you said.

MOST GQP'ers/US Talibaners were quoting the Trafalgar Group Poll, and that poll is a complete sham, right-winged poll and I don't get why Nate Silver gives it an A- at all.

And we know that Rasmussen polling is a complete sham of a poll.

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Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 11:09 AM

6. Sooooooooo, Biden lie about a virus and kill 500k Americans?! No? Then this is media driven ...

... or they didn't do their job when the last guy was in office.

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Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 11:20 AM

7. The media....screw the country..ranting for ratings is much more important

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Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 11:25 AM

8. gee. the media pounds their beefs for days on end and the polls drop.

if only someone in the media could figure out why.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 11:39 AM

11. Creating their own next story...

No surprise.

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Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 11:27 AM

9. This means damage control is necessary.

The public normally has a short term memory problem when it comes to politics, regardless of of whomever is sitting in the White House. It's also unusual for the incumbent's party to do well in off term elections. That being said, damage control is entirely possible and necessary. People/groups like Bloomberg and the Lincoln Project should step up their efforts earlier than usual if repeating of history is to be avoided.

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Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 11:38 AM

10. The news is not helping.

Trump leaves two giant messes and President Biden has play clean up.

How many people did Trump evac.

None.

Sold out the country and left President Biden with to few troops.

The Democrats in Congress need to be talking about this.

President Biden is superman dealing with everything.

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Response to Texaswitchy (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 01:18 PM

28. "The Democrats in Congress need to be talking about this."

You know how that it is with most Dem messaging.


What Dem messaging? 😑

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Response to LenaBaby61 (Reply #28)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 02:05 PM

29. I know.

They need to be speaking up.

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Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 11:47 AM

12. Dems need to do major damage control now

None of this is Biden's fault.

But we might get Trump back in 2024.

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Response to Dopers_Greed (Reply #12)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 12:04 PM

17. People will forget about Afghanistan in a few months.

It won’t effect 2022 much less 2024. What will effect those races is if we fail to pass the big infrastructure bills. Those will have lasting impact.

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Response to Elessar Zappa (Reply #17)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 12:50 PM

25. The Infrastructure bills are a chance for Biden wins

Other possibilities are expanded food stamps, lower unemployment numbers.

Dems should be as shameless as possible to flaunt these if they go well.

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Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 12:02 PM

15. Don't be complacent about this modest dip -- GOP will blanket media space w/milking Afghanistan

For those of us old enough to remember the revolting Willie Horton ads in the 1988 campaign, the way the GOP can milk an issue (or nonissue) to the hilt must NEVER be forgotten or underestimated

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Response to cloudythescribbler (Reply #15)

Mon Aug 23, 2021, 04:56 AM

40. Afghanistan reflects back on them. The same goes for covid

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Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 12:10 PM

18. When I Saw Chuck Todd

presenting this on MTP as Biden being in freefall and complete collapse, I was yelling at the TV, "It's not even within THE MARGIN OF ERROR of your own damn polls, you stupid idiot!"


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Response to WHITT (Reply #18)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 03:12 PM

32. Just Chuck being Chuck.

Really wish MTP would replace him.

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Response to Moebym (Reply #32)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 03:22 PM

34. Just Another Chicken Little


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Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 12:22 PM

20. So... Biden's lowest job approval of his presidency is higher than

Trump's highest job approval, and is about equal to Obama's median job approval.

https://news.gallup.com/interactives/185273/presidential-job-approval-center.aspx


... And this is a bad thing?

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Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 12:32 PM

22. ABC poll showing no change from last week

https://www.politicususa.com/2021/08/22/new-poll-shows-afghanistan-withdrawal-has-zero-impact-on-bidens-popularity.html

But what's laughable about polls is that 26 - 30% of those polled are TFG humpers, that if Biden himself rescued them into a lifeboat from the Titanic, would still oppose his actions in doing so. So put that into perspective.

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Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 12:36 PM

23. I think this is good news!

 

With all bad news of last week to have only dropped by 4 points and still not be underwater I am not sweating!!

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Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 02:16 PM

30. There media got what they wanted

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Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 03:19 PM

33. Strategic and planned. Do not underestimate this admin. They know what they are doing.

Let me explain.

7 months into his administration President Biden has made some very hard and knowingly difficult decisions that HAD to be made and he has accepted (unlike The Turd) responsibility.

We all knew that with the rise of the Delta Variant of Sars Cov 2 there would be an increase in cases if people refused to be vaccinated.

The Turd made the Surge.

I fully expect to see a rebound with new fervor in the coming year ahead of 2022 as jobs increase, the economy and projects get underway, covid becomes more manageable and the covidiots die the fuck off.

I have to have faith and I, for one, will not back down anymore. I am done with the morons running the show.

Time to shout them down.

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Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 03:26 PM

35. Not unexpected. When a policy decision results in a bad outcome, favorability declines

Fortunately things are not even close to a worst case scenario: Embassy seizure in Tehran where Americans are held hostage and extremists shout "Death to America" daily. In Afghanistan, the Taliban leadership are cooperating with the US by not attacking the airport and are trying to appear moderate in spite of the thirst for revenge and extremism by many of their followers.

If Biden and his team can get Americans and their Afghan allies out of Afghanistan safely and as fast as possible, his ratings will recover.

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Response to SouthBayDem (Original post)

Sun Aug 22, 2021, 03:32 PM

37. The ratings-focused news media and hypocritical Republicans

Succeeded in taking Biden down a notch. Congratulations, I guess.

The dip in approval for his handling of COVID-19 is especially infuriating. Sure, the CDC made a blunder with its messaging on masks, but the Biden admin is not responsible for a third or so of the country downright refusing to mask and vaccinate and R governors looking the other way while their constituents suffer and die, all in the name of "freedom" and individual liberties.

But I guess it's to be expected for a country of which a huge percentage of its citizens like to place the blame on others for their own predicaments.

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