Blast reported at Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul
Source: CNN
(CNN)An explosion was reported outside the Hamid Karzai International Airport on Thursday, according to two US officials.
One official said there are injuries among Afghans, but there is no information yet on any US casualties.
Pentagon spokesperson John Kirby confirmed there was an explosion outside of the airport. "We can confirm an explosion outside Kabul airport. Casualties are unclear at this time. We will provide additional details when we can," he said in a tweet.
This is a developing story.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/26/asia/afghanistan-kabul-airport-blast-intl/index.html
FBaggins
(26,729 posts)This could get bad very fast
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Anything to make Biden look bad....
wnylib
(21,433 posts)undermine the Taliban. Prior warnings to people about danger outside the gates of the airport were focused on the small number of Isis in Afghanistan who want to disrupt the control of the Taliban.
FBaggins
(26,729 posts)Best guess is that it's ISIS seeing an opportunity to mess with both the US and the Taliban at the same time.
No reason to think that it would be any different with Trump or Obama in the same scenario. Of course it will hurt Biden if it turns out to be a real attack... but that goes with sitting at the Resolute Desk.
LymphocyteLover
(5,643 posts)onetexan
(13,036 posts)MarcA
(2,195 posts)Yorkist
(59 posts).have a word with yourself. If the first thing you can think of whilst theyre tending the wounded is Joe Bidens short term popularity you are either his pollster, or youve got your priorities wrong.
BlueWavePsych
(2,635 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)dalton99a
(81,455 posts)They might try that next
(The U.S. also gave hundreds of Stinger missiles to the Taliban during the 80s to shoot down Russian aircraft)
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,406 posts)The missiles were supplied to the mujahideen. So, whatever became of the mujahideen? Some of them went on to form the Taliban.
It's a timeline thing.
The Taliban in Afghanistan
Since its ouster in 2001, the Taliban has maintained its insurgency against the U.S.-led mission in Afghanistan and the Afghan government. As U.S. troops have withdrawn in 2021, the group has rapidly expanded its control, positioning itself for a return to power.
Taliban fighters attend a gathering to celebrate the U.S.-Taliban deal in March 2020. Wali Sabawoon/NurPhoto/Getty Images
WRITTEN BY Lindsay Maizland
UPDATED Last updated August 3, 2021 12:00 pm (EST)
{snip}
How was the Taliban formed?
The group was formed in the early 1990s by Afghan mujahideen, or Islamic guerilla fighters, who had resisted the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan (197989) with the covert backing of the CIA and its Pakistani counterpart, the Inter-Services Intelligence directorate (ISI). They were joined by younger Pashtun tribesmen who studied in Pakistani madrassas, or seminaries; taliban is Pashto for students. Pashtuns comprise a plurality in Afghanistan and are the predominant ethnic group in much of the countrys south and east. They are also a major ethnic group in Pakistans north and west.
{snip}
SKKY
(11,804 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 26, 2021, 01:35 PM - Edit history (1)
..and thought, "Wait? Tretorn makes black hightops??"
PatSeg
(47,405 posts)that was reported last night, when the U.S. Embassy, as well as the British and Australian governments warned Americans to stay away from the airport and the airport perimeter.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142791333
wnylib
(21,433 posts)front headline story on this. The UK warning specifically said that an attack was imminent within hours.
Polly Hennessey
(6,793 posts)look bad? Anything and everything that happens is Bidens fault. Is he supposed to solve and cure all of humankinds problems? Quite a feat.
LymphocyteLover
(5,643 posts)Ohioboy
(3,240 posts)FBaggins
(26,729 posts)Civilian evacuations would have to end a little over a day from now if you assume the expected three days for the final military resources to leave.
We already know that the US told any Americans outside the airport gates to leave the area due to a potential attack... which means that they obviously aren't currently able to get to the airport for evacuation.
Worse possibilities quickly come to mind if we speculate that there's an ongoing risk. This isn't Bagram air base where US forces can secure a substantial perimeter. Flights might need to cease entirely.
Shanti Shanti Shanti
(12,047 posts)LymphocyteLover
(5,643 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,307 posts)https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/explosion-outside-kabul-airport-casualties-unclear-pentagon-2021-08-26/
And just now it's become official - the Pentagon Press Secretary:
Link to tweet
"We can confirm that the explosion at the Abbey Gate was the result of a complex attack that resulted in a number of US & civilian casualties. We can also confirm at least one other explosion at or near the Baron Hotel, a short distance from Abbey Gate."
LymphocyteLover
(5,643 posts)Reuters originally said 3 US soldiers dead but that seems disputed.
Ford_Prefect
(7,891 posts)actually has over the actions of the horde. ISIS and the Taliban were originally configured to operate as a diffuse force rather than with top down cohesive command.
I suspect there are also more than a few zealots among them who feel the need to strike one more blow against the Great Satan of the west and any of those who ally with him. The Khmer Rouge were equally ruthless in their oppression and interpretation of loyalty.
LymphocyteLover
(5,643 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,307 posts)https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/aug/26/afghanistan-live-news-updates-evacuation-refugees-taliban-kabul-airport-latest?page=with:block-6127a58f8f080840ca17c2cc#block-6127a58f8f080840ca17c2cc
Someone's intelligence on this was pretty good - the warnings not to approach the airport had come via several western embassies this morning.
LymphocyteLover
(5,643 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,307 posts)He reports that a suicide bomber detonated his explosives in the crowd of people before a second attacker started opening fire.
Link to tweet
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-58279900
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)This may delay flights, but it won't stop the educated from fleeing.
Johnny2X2X
(19,047 posts)This was an ISIS attack, they are enemies of the Taliban.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,047 posts)The Taliban has the power that ISIS wants. They've been fighting for years.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)That does not make them enemies.
Johnny2X2X
(19,047 posts)The Taliban have executed ISIS leaders. This isn't the regular warlord stuff.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)The Taliban and ISIS are both Sunni Muslim extremists; the Taliban has sought unity with ISIS.
Both want an authoritarian regime under strict sharia law. Though the two are united in their use of violence to enforce their goals, what differentiates them essentially comes down to strategic differences of how to accomplish their common goals, with ISIS favoring more extreme violence. Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Mansour asked his Isis counterpart Abu Bakr al Baghdadi to unite under the Talibans leadership in order to achieve a common goal of ruling by sharia law.
Johnny2X2X
(19,047 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)The Taliban basically completed what ISIS started; the Taliban took out ISIS' trash for them. Read your article.
FBaggins
(26,729 posts)We have so much in common - yet we're always in conflict with each other.
But in the more specific sense, you can't just say "they're both Muslim fanatics so they should get along". Shia/Sunni Iran-backed/Iran-hating, different ethnic groups with greater enmity than our own racial divisions... the list goes on.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Both want an authoritarian regime under strict sharia law. Though the two are united in their use of violence to enforce their goals, what differentiates them essentially comes down to strategic differences of how to accomplish their common goals, with ISIS favoring more extreme violence. Taliban leader Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Mansour asked his Isis counterpart Abu Bakr al Baghdadi to unite under the Talibans leadership in order to achieve a common goal of ruling by sharia law.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,307 posts)...
According to reports, Khorasani was killed in the Pul-e-Charkhi prison in Kabul.
Khorasans successor, Shahab al-Muhajir, was appointed in June 2020, according to a report by the United Nationals monitoring team for the ISIL (Daesh) & Al Qaeda sanctions Committee.
In July 21, the UN team in its 28th report warned that ISIL-K was seeking to recruit Taliban fighters. The Taliban and ISIS have clashed numerous times in Afghanistan since 2015.
https://www.theweek.in/news/world/2021/08/19/taliban-executes-is-k-chief-a-year-after-afghan-govt-jailed-him.html
...
More battles erupted in April 2017 when ISKP captured three drug dealers selling opium to raise funds for the Taliban in the northern Afghan province of Jowzjan and again in May 2017 when 22 militants were killed in clashes between the two sides along the Iranian border.
The Taliban launched an offensive to clear Isis out of Jowzjan the following summer, with the the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan joining in on the latters side, as up to 7,000 people were displaced from their homes.
That Julys conflict ended in a significant defeat for ISKP, who suffered further setbacks in skirmishes the following year before being almost entirely eradicated by the US and the Afghan military in late 2019, although the Council for Foreign Relations estimates that there are still 2,200 members of ISKP still active in Afghanistan.
https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/south-asia/taliban-and-isis-connection-afghanistan-b1909352.html
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)You ignore this part of The Week article you are quoting:
https://www.theweek.in/news/world/2021/08/19/taliban-executes-is-k-chief-a-year-after-afghan-govt-jailed-him.html
muriel_volestrangler
(101,307 posts)You're trying to posit agreement or cooperation between IS-K and the Taliban that experts and people there just don't see.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)That there is infighting within and among the Taliban & ISIS does not mean they aren't working toward the same goal.
I'm not claiming I know for sure, I was just saying what it looks like to me. The Taliban have made it very clear in recent days that they want the brain drain to stop at the Kabul Airport. https://news.yahoo.com/taliban-spokesperson-says-afghans-stop-150424721.html
The bombings at the airport would appear to be an attempt to further that goal.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,307 posts)"Bullshit is claiming you know who the suicide bomber was and whose interests he served...The bombings at the airport would appear to be an attempt to further that goal." So your post claims to know whose interests he served.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Their interests are not a mystery.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,307 posts)Meanwhile, in actual analysis and reporting:
The crowds, planes and infrastructure at the airport provide an obvious venue for the kind of mass-casualty attack that Isis has become known for. But Winter said, the situation was also, for the group, a perfect meeting of diverse targets in Afghanistan: the US military, Afghans who have helped the western effort and are therefore seen as collaborators and the Taliban, which Isis-K sees as apostates.
Isis-K is likely to see an attack against the airport as a great victory, said Tore Hamming, an expert on Isis also at the ICSR.
They achieve several things: they hit legitimate targets (from their perspective), they send a signal of still being a force to be reckoned with and they challenge the Talibans state project by highlighting that the group cant secure Kabul.
...
The new rulers of Afghanistan have so far been unable to force Isis-K fighters out of two valleys in Kunar province, despite repeated offensives earlier this year.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/26/isis-affiliate-iskp-is-prime-suspect-for-kabul-airport-suicide-bomb
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)And yes, of course I'm guessing, as is everyone else. I just saying this is what it looks like to me.
Kinda like how Trump let the Proud Boys attack the Capitol.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,307 posts)A suicide bomber from the Islamist militant group "managed to reach a large gathering of translators and collaborators with the American army at 'Baran Camp' near Kabul Airport and detonated his explosive belt among them, killing about 60 people and wounding more than 100 others, including Taliban fighters," it said.
https://www.reuters.com/world/islamic-state-claims-responsibility-kabul-airport-attack-2021-08-26/
Mosby
(16,299 posts)You should delete your post.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,307 posts)so a deletion seems unnecessary:
A senior U.S. intelligence official said while no formal attribution has been made, all signs and recently gathered intelligence point to ISIS-K, an offshoot of Islamic State, as the culprits.
Pentagon press secretary John Kirby tweeted that there was an explosion at Abbey Gate, as well as one at or near the Baron Hotel, which is a short distance from Abbey Gate. He noted the explosion at the gate "resulted in a number of US & civilian casualties."
U.S. officials, including President Joe Biden, had been warning of the threat of Islamic State terror attacks at the Kabul airport, which is being guarded by the Taliban as Americans and Afghan allies seek to leave the country.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/08/26/what-isis-k-afghanistan-islamic-state-terror-group/5600295001/
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)The Taliban relayed specific info on imminent violence at the airport and were telling people not to go to the airport, so they clearly knew this was going to happen.
https://news.yahoo.com/taliban-spokesperson-says-afghans-stop-150424721.html
Seems like letting their crazy buddies in ISIS do a few suicide bombings at Kabul Airport is an attempt to stop the brain drain.
That's all I'm saying.
Mosby
(16,299 posts)Worse than the first 2 I think. Going by twitter tho.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)That's why Biden wants us out August 31.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)to the bottom of LBN and GD within minutes over the last several years?
I'd wager dozens. Conservatively, dozens.