Striking chart shows it's 'impossible' to not link voting patterns with COVID deaths: reporter

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September 10, 2021


Washington Post reporter Philip Bump on Friday compared states that voted for President Joe Biden in 2020 with states that voted for former President Donald Trump in 2020 and found it was "impossible" to separate politics from pandemic outcomes.


In a chart posted on his Twitter account, Bump showed how much Biden-voting states have diverged from Trump-voting states ever since vaccines started rolling out late last year, and he found that blue states are now doing significantly better than they were a year ago at this time, while red states are doing significantly worse.

Elaborating on this in a lengthy Washington Post analysis, Bump makes a case that the is a direct correlation with political leanings and pandemic outcomes.

"Republicans have been less concerned about the virus, less likely to embrace practices such as masking, more likely to express opposition to vaccination and (obviously) voted more heavily for Trump," he writes. "And now, after vaccinations have been made broadly available, states that are seeing the most new cases and deaths are states that are less heavily vaccinated and were more supportive of Trump last year. All of that is obviously and provably true, making it much harder to assert that politics is not playing any role.".........................................

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/vaccination-rate-trump-states/

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Striking chart shows it's 'impossible' to not link voting patterns with COVID deaths: reporter




Health workers move a COVID-19 patient at United Memorial Medical Center in Houston, Texas on July 2, 2020 as the virus threatens to overwhelm the city's vast medical system Mark Felix AFP/File

[Hugh_Lebowski]

1. Betting it'd be even more striking if you went by county (nt)

[Jimbo S]

3. Be careful what you ask for

I've been tracking blue vs red counties here in Wisconsin going back to Day 1 and the daily positive case rate curves pretty much overlap since November.

Why? Not totally sure. High population densities in urban areas? Vaccine adverseness amongst P.O.C. communities?

I haven't been tracking death rates blue vs red counties, however.

[IronLionZion]

7. Is that for total numbers or per 100,000?

There are less masks and vaccination in rural areas, and less hospital ICU capacity.

[certainot]

12. try relating it to prevalence of talk radio - which is 95% republican. limbaugh, working for tfg,

set the initial tone (like smoking doesn't cause cancer and i'm always 99.8% right) calling it a hoax used dby dems to pass big govt solutions.

the list of 600 xlimbaugh stations by state is probably still around. for every one of his there are at least one without him altho his were generally the loudest and pretty indicative of 'redness' - they basically made redness.

havent heard much rw radio lately but this spring i heard a caller say he was in medicine/science and the vaccines actually only lasted a few weeks. of course the host didn't refute it. how many paid callers have been spraying similar across 500 radio stations and which countries are they calling from?

[dianaredwing]

17. Just made a 2000 mile

trip from LA to CA through the Bible Belt and I have to say that the radio waves are OWNED by the Christian right wingers. Even though local, state, and federal government billboards and PSA's tout the vaccines, the overwhelming sense that I got was that survivors (and I use that loosely) truly believe their Christian 'values' and hear the tone rather than the message. Any one of those evangelicals or RWNJ radio hosts I heard in passing could have been saying anything. Their listeners have become Pavlov dogs. Shutting down the airwaves might be the only means of breaking the spell, although I doubt such a thing will happen. It is sad, but only more deaths of those who spread the lies might make a difference and I would bet anything nearly all of them have been vaccinated. It's all Jim Bakker BS and people lap it up like ivermectin. So, I guess we just have to wait until the audience dies off.

[certainot]

20. alll it would take is one well known activist group to start the end for it

every advertiser, ad co, university and pro team that uses those stations share responsibility and need to be shamedd until they start an exodus and the ad cos have to break up the monopoly

with limbaugh's croaking central GOP/russian political messaging is breaking up and with artificial intelligence making it easy to record transcribe and analyze large amts of it it's ready to go. it would be stuprush x 100

[BumRushDaShow]

21. Looking at your state's data by county

And when you're talking rural counties vs more populous ones, you can't go by raw "cases". They usually reflect it as "cases" or "deaths" per 100,000 (population).

https://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/covid-19/county.htm

The top 10 counties with the highest deaths per 100,000 =

Iron (369.3)
Florence (302.7)
Forest (266.5)
Lincoln (264.6)
Waupaca (258.9)
Menominee (241.4)
Oneida (216.3)
Dodge (210.6)
Vilas (202.7)
Racine (198.7)

The top 10 counties with the lowest deaths per 100,000 =

Buffalo (53.7)
Lafayette (54.0)
Green (54.1)
Iowa (54.9)
Dane (59.4)
Price (59.9)
St. Croix (73.9)
La Crosse (83.0)
Dunn (83.8) *tie
Sauk (83.8) *tie
Juneau (86.2)
Pierce (88.9)

Your other urban/more populous counties not mentioned in the above-

Milwaukee = 153.6
Waukesha = 151.7
Brown = 99.8
Outagamie = 122.4
Winnebago = 122.2
Rock = 119.4
Marathon = 149.6

Where I found some county populations by size here - https://www.wisconsin-demographics.com/counties_by_population

1 Milwaukee County 951,226
2 Dane County 536,078
3 Waukesha County 400,475
4 Brown County 261,368
5 Racine County 195,602
6 Outagamie County 185,700
7 Winnebago County 170,411
8 Kenosha County 168,524
9 Rock County 162,152
10 Marathon County 135,396
11 Washington County 134,925
12 La Crosse County 117,894
13 Sheboygan County 115,178
14 Eau Claire County 103,514
15 Walworth County 103,074
16 Fond du Lac County 102,597
17 St. Croix County 88,732
18 Ozaukee County 88,597
19 Dodge County 87,715
20 Jefferson County 84,701
21 Manitowoc County 79,185
22 Wood County 73,112
23 Portage County 70,632
24 Sauk County 63,922
25 Chippewa County 63,892
26 Columbia County 57,133
27 Grant County 51,733
28 Waupaca County 51,245
29 Calumet County 49,928
30 Monroe County 45,771
31 Barron County 45,229
32 Dunn County 44,759
33 Polk County 43,438
34 Douglas County 43,295
35 Pierce County 41,977
36 Shawano County 40,904
37 Marinette County 40,391
38 Oconto County 37,646
39 Green County 36,896
40 Oneida County 35,381
41 Clark County 34,579
42 Vernon County 30,633
43 Trempealeau County 29,499
44 Lincoln County 27,744
45 Door County 27,472
46 Juneau County 26,478
47 Waushara County 24,193
48 Iowa County 23,618
49 Vilas County 21,751
50 Jackson County 20,522
51 Kewaunee County 20,387
52 Taylor County 20,325
53 Adams County 20,094
54 Langlade County 19,146
55 Green Lake County 18,755
56 Richland County 17,459
57 Lafayette County 16,715
58 Sawyer County 16,399
59 Crawford County 16,235
60 Washburn County 15,688
61 Ashland County 15,617
62 Marquette County 15,304
63 Burnett County 15,289
64 Bayfield County 14,993
65 Rusk County 14,132
66 Price County 13,416
67 Buffalo County 13,126
68 Forest County 8,995
69 Pepin County 7,265
70 Iron County 5,687
71 Menominee County 4,558
72 Florence County 4,314

United States Census Bureau. Annual Estimates of the Resident Population: April 1, 2010 to July 1, 2019. U.S. Census Bureau, Population Division. Web. May 2020. http://www.census.gov/.

United States Census Bureau. B01001 SEX BY AGE, 2019 American Community Survey 5-Year Estimates. U.S. Census Bureau, American Community Survey Office. Web. 10 December 2020. http://www.census.gov/.

So outside of Racine (south of Milwaukee), that has about a 25% POC population, it's a rural problem.

(I can't believe you made me look at this )

[Botany]

2. Really you don't say? Ohio voted for Trump and look at these calm and rational people here.

[llmart]

4. I've been following Michigan's counties since the beginning.

I see a clear pattern of counties with more educated people having more vaccinated people and rural counties which typically have less education have less vaccinated people.

In my opinion it has more to do with education, but then again, the more educated people are more likely to have voted for Biden.

[hibbing]

5. Not sure a study was actually needed

The other party has been actively promoting the virus for months.


Peace

[ProfessorGAC]

26. Not Sure Vax Rates Are Correlated Either

Look at the center of the graph. 4Q2020
The worst period for both cases & deaths was before a vax was available.
This takes vaccination rate out as a variable.
It's obviously political, or even a deeper correlation is in play; as in the kind of population that holds those political views.

[Marthe48]

6. How about CA, AZ, PA, GA,MI, NV?

If their Covid vaccine rates are higher and their death rates from Covid-19 are lower, doesn't show even more proof that President Biden beat the traitor in 2020?

I don't need proof, of course, but maybe a that'll bring a few people back to planet Earth.

[BumRushDaShow]

25. "How about CA, AZ, PA, GA,MI, NV?"

Here in PA, this is what I was tracking for cases -

9/10/21 - PA - +5,005 to 1,338,313/total cumulative deaths = 28,535
Total doses of vaccine = 12,392,854, 55.7% fully vaxed (not counting Philly)*

9/10/21 - PHL - +355 to 157,159/total cumulative deaths = 3,830
Total doses of vaccine = 1,960,429, 67% of adults are fully vaxed

*(the state's number doesn't include Philly's figures since we get our vaccines directly from CDC)

[Metaphorical]

8. Washington State supports the trend

We're having problems with overwhelming hospital beds, but most of the cases are outside the Puget Sound in the red part of the state. The problem is that Covid-19 HAS overwhelmed the Eastern part of the state, which has fewer hospital beds, and that's forcing overflow into hospitals in the blue part of the state. I suspect this is the case in other blue states as well.

[certainot]

13. i'll bet red areas are correlate closely with loud rw radio stations in rural areas, where they

often dominate. unlike fox and internet rw radio is locally coordinated - the local blowhards reinforce the national talking points on global warming, covid, biden, etc but they are closely coordinated with local republican apparatus - to sell local/state voter suppression, anti-choice, fight mask mandates, etc

i'll bet there is no closer correlation to anti-mask, anti vax idiocy than talk radio - but it's never polled - like :"would you say you listen to 0-5, 5-20, or 20 or more hours of talk radio every week?"

[Mr.Bill]

9. The mass suicide of the Trump cult

is already underway, and they don't even know it.

[area51]

10. +1 n/t

[KS Toronado]

11. Yep, they won't know it until after the midterms

when they're wondering what went wrong

[OMGWTF]

16. It's as if the Dunning-Kruger Effect and Darwinism had a baby.

[paleotn]

23. Ha!! Bingo!!

[former9thward]

28. Are you able to provide a link that shows that?

Given the death rate is around 1%.

[Grins]

14. "impossible to separate politics from pandemic...

And there you have it. Politics is our complete lives from before we are born to the depth of the grave we are put into at the end.

[peppertree]

15. Adding to that the fact that in some red states, Covid numbers/deaths are UNDER-reported

Deliberately, of course.

[dalton99a]

22. +1

[cadoman]

24. the deaths are absolutely under-reported, drive by a red state hospital and see

These states are the flash points of the pandemic. Hospitals literally overflowing with COVID and Ivermectin dead.

It's disgusting but the upside is that it will be excellent for Democratic candidates this midterm election. As the variants continue to multiple--each deadlier than the last--we could easily see as much as 10% of Republicans dead before the votes are cast.

Such disparities in outcome are enough to turn deep red states blue, even with decades of gerrymandering.

[bucolic_frolic]

18. The divergence will only grow larger

Red counties not swallowing mask mandates for schools. Blue counties it's a breeze if the state government allows it.

[TeamProg]

19. And the Red States ADMIT it! A chart is great, but seriously not needed. It's all too

OBVIOUS.

[former9thward]

27. Why are the deaths "per 10 million"?

No site uses that.

[JudyM]

29. Locking

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