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Calista241

(5,586 posts)
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 11:05 AM Sep 2021

Clarence Thomas says Supreme Court could be "most dangerous" branch

Source: Axios

Justice Clarence Thomas on Thursday, during rare public remarks at the University of Notre Dame, warned against politicizing the Supreme Court.

Driving the news: Thomas, the court's longest-serving member, said that the justices do not rule based on "personal preferences" and that politicians should not "allow others to manipulate our institutions when we don’t get the outcome that we like," per the Washington Post.

Thomas, 73, also criticized some of his colleagues, without naming names, for veering into the role of politicians, saying that "[w]hen we begin to venture into the legislative or executive branch lanes, those of us, particularly in the federal judiciary with lifetime appointments, are asking for trouble."

"The court was thought to be the least dangerous branch and we may have become the most dangerous," he added. What he's saying: "It is not about winning or losing at the court, it is about the entire country and the idea of this country," Thomas said.

"I think we should be careful destroying our institutions because they don't give us what we want, when we want it."

Read more: https://www.axios.com/clarence-thomas-supreme-court-dangerous-aeee0246-bd95-4349-af0f-9d3bdb351acd.html

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Clarence Thomas says Supreme Court could be "most dangerous" branch (Original Post) Calista241 Sep 2021 OP
I wonder if the presentation was accompanied by videos he brought underpants Sep 2021 #1
Hey Clarence, is that a stinking nugget of Republican bullshit on your coke can? Champp Sep 2021 #2
Your being sooooooooooo impartial 4Q2u2 Sep 2021 #3
Translated durablend Sep 2021 #4
Perjurer says what? PSPS Sep 2021 #5
Anything Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Rapey Kavanugh, and Samuel Alito say AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #14
They Must Be Getting Worried Me. Sep 2021 #6
The very idea of clarence, who admittedly votes his 'feelings' and is not concerned empedocles Sep 2021 #9
Yup - I'm happy to see them looking very worried. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #34
Exactly! They showed their hand and now want us all to un-see it. FM123 Sep 2021 #37
Hey Clarence, you want the Court to be non political? Mr.Bill Sep 2021 #7
Beat Me To It! ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #29
You know it is bad when the dumbest person to ever serve on the court DURHAM D Sep 2021 #8
Look in the mirror assh*le awesomerwb1 Sep 2021 #10
You can predict with uncanny accuracy what Thomas' ruling will be before any evidence is heard. Midnight Writer Sep 2021 #11
You can do that with all the justices on party issues. LiberatedUSA Sep 2021 #16
So that means you won't vote against Roe, will vote to overturn Citizens United and Hobby Lobby, AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #12
Definitely, with him on it. Ocelot II Sep 2021 #13
Thomas, "veering into the role of politicians" Botany Sep 2021 #15
If He's Really RobinA Sep 2021 #18
he was only 43 when he was appointed to the Court rurallib Sep 2021 #20
This has to rank as one of the most disengenuous statements ever by a Supreme Court Justice. patphil Sep 2021 #17
Thanks MAGAs! Initech Sep 2021 #19
Wow, Noble Prize for lack of self awareness. 2Gingersnaps Sep 2021 #21
You mean like when your wife is actively recruiting for the insurrection ? Comfortably_Numb Sep 2021 #22
They seem to reading from the same page. LiberalFighter Sep 2021 #23
Such BS from a pervert Farmer-Rick Sep 2021 #24
He's not wrong, but who is he trying to kid? malthaussen Sep 2021 #25
Too late. Talk to Moscow Mitch, the evil turtle. Wake up & smell the burnt coffee. rickyhall Sep 2021 #26
such a useful tool... stillcool Sep 2021 #27
Wow you can barely see the strings tavernier Sep 2021 #38
possibly "most dangerous" llashram Sep 2021 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Sep 2021 #30
Scalia and Thomas Casady1 Sep 2021 #31
Politics should not enter into the SCOTUS? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2021 #32
"...warned against politicizing the Court." - HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA! lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #33
the words spoken here are essential sound stopdiggin Sep 2021 #35
Theatre of the absurd. How lofty he is. JudyM Sep 2021 #36
Is that a threat? RussBLib Sep 2021 #39
Says the most lock-step right-wing nitwit political justice ever Mysterian Sep 2021 #40
 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
3. Your being sooooooooooo impartial
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 11:10 AM
Sep 2021

leads to Big Business winning over 90% of the cases in front of you.

durablend

(7,460 posts)
4. Translated
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 11:11 AM
Sep 2021
Thomas, 73, also criticized some of his colleagues, without naming names, for veering into the role of politicians, saying that "[w]hen we begin to venture into the legislative or executive branch lanes, those of us, particularly in the federal judiciary with lifetime appointments, are asking for trouble."


"LIBRULS ARE DESTROYING THE PLACE!!!!!"

Me.

(35,454 posts)
6. They Must Be Getting Worried
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 11:13 AM
Sep 2021

they showed their hand for all to see by completely ignoring 50 years of precedent.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
9. The very idea of clarence, who admittedly votes his 'feelings' and is not concerned
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 11:24 AM
Sep 2021

with precedent, doing such public pronouncements.

'Why Justice Thomas Is Wrong about Precedent

This term Justice Clarence Thomas wrote an important concurring opinion on stare decisis in Gamble v. United States, the case on the scope of double jeopardy. There Thomas rejects stare decisis for both constitutional and statutory cases except in cases where the precedent is not “demonstrably erroneous.”

[not ''demonstrably erroneus'' - Wow. ]

https://lawliberty.org/why-justice-thomas-is-wrong-about-precedent/

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
34. Yup - I'm happy to see them looking very worried.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:42 PM
Sep 2021

They should be. They have ben allowed to steal too much power on behalf of the Fascists. We need to put a stop to it.

Midnight Writer

(21,745 posts)
11. You can predict with uncanny accuracy what Thomas' ruling will be before any evidence is heard.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 11:29 AM
Sep 2021

That is because his rulings are based on his "personal preferences" and political leaning.

A judge that goes into every case with a pre-determined outcome is no judge at all.

How much money has the Thomas family made from Right Wing organizations?

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
16. You can do that with all the justices on party issues.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 11:45 AM
Sep 2021

If the court case is gun related, the only vote you might, maybe need to guess on would be Roberts. If the case is about expanding gun laws in a way the right likes or striking them down, 3 votes will be no and 5 will be yes.

This is why we go through the theater of the nomination process, because both sides want to make sure their pick will vote their goals. If we didn’t care, we would not grill them in such a way that forces them to clam up. If we didn’t care how they would vote, we would not be asking them questions like “what do you think of this or that law” or “if this came before you, how would you vote”.

The entire nomination process is enough proof that accusations of “you just want a judge to vote how you want”, applies to everyone.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,680 posts)
12. So that means you won't vote against Roe, will vote to overturn Citizens United and Hobby Lobby,
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 11:35 AM
Sep 2021

and then resign for the good of the country there, Justice Oops?

Botany

(70,489 posts)
15. Thomas, "veering into the role of politicians"
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 11:42 AM
Sep 2021

Are you kidding me? Does bush v Gore ring a bell Clarence?

BTW isn't getting close to your time to take a dirt nap?

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
20. he was only 43 when he was appointed to the Court
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 12:06 PM
Sep 2021

seems like he has been there forever (30 years already)

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
21. Wow, Noble Prize for lack of self awareness.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 12:16 PM
Sep 2021

Not to be confused with the Nobel, Noble Prize is for a partisan hack married to a batshit partisan hack. How many busloads is she shipping to this "family picnic" in the Capitol?

Comfortably_Numb

(3,801 posts)
22. You mean like when your wife is actively recruiting for the insurrection ?
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 12:25 PM
Sep 2021

Things like that justice “Long Dong Silver” Thomas????

Farmer-Rick

(10,154 posts)
24. Such BS from a pervert
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 12:32 PM
Sep 2021

He warned against politicizing the Supreme Court??????

Too late. The court is already fully politicized. Maybe he should warn against perverting the Supreme Court. You know, warn against having judges on the court who sexually abuse women or who belong to weird religious cults.

We have every shade of ultra right wing GOPers on the court and now he warns against politicizing?

He"s afraid additional members to the court will break the GOP strangle hold on the court.

malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
25. He's not wrong, but who is he trying to kid?
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:11 PM
Sep 2021

The USSC -- and Mr Justice Thomas in particular -- have been political hacks for years.

-- Mal

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
27. such a useful tool...
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:55 PM
Sep 2021

he's like any GOP official. Plug and play. His wife, on the other hand...


Courts & Law
Ginni Thomas apologizes to husband’s Supreme Court clerks after Capitol riot fallout

Robert Barnes
February 2, 2021 at 11:22 a.m. EST
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/ginni-thomas-apology-clarence-thomas-clerks-trump-rally/2021/02/02/a9818cce-6496-11eb
Conservative political activist Virginia Thomas told her husband Justice Clarence Thomas’s former law clerks that she was sorry for a rift that developed among them after her election advocacy of President Donald Trump and endorsement of the Jan. 6 rally in D.C. that resulted in violence and death at the Capitol
=============================

Thomas has made clear her opposition to the Affordable Care Act, for instance, and other initiatives of the Obama administration. This summer, she tried to get the small Virginia town of Clifton to take down a Black Lives Matter banner. “Let’s not be tricked into joining cause with radical extremists seeking to foment a cultural revolution because they hate America,” she wrote to town leaders.

Virginia and Clarence Thomas attend a state dinner at the White House in 2019. (Patrick Semansky/AP)
She has been a delegate to the Republican National Convention. And after first endorsing Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) for president, she became an ardent Trump supporter, meeting with the president at the White House to advise on political appointees. When Trump gathered supporters at the White House to celebrate his acquittal at his first Senate impeachment trial, she was among those invited.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=&w=540

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErLor7lXIAAIJJo?format=jpg&name=900x900


Ginni Thomas, Wife of Clarence, Cheered On the Rally That Turned Into the Capitol Riot
“GOD BLESS EACH OF YOU STANDING UP or PRAYING!”
BY MARK JOSEPH STERN
JAN 08, 202112:17 PM
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/ginni-thomas-donald-trump-clarence-thomas-capitol-riot.html
On Wednesday morning, Ginni Thomas—wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas—endorsed the rally in Washington demanding that Congress overturn the election. She then sent her “LOVE” to the demonstrators, who violently overtook the Capitol several hours later. Two days later, Thomas amended her post with the addendum: “[Note: written before violence in US Capitol].” By that point, five people involved in the insurrection, including a Capitol Police officer, had died.


Thomas, a conservative lobbyist and zealous supporter of Donald Trump, has fervently defended the president over the last four years. On her Facebook page, she frequently promotes baseless conspiracy theories about a “coup” against Trump led by Jewish philanthropist George Soros, a frequent target of anti-Semitic hate. Thomas draws many of these theories from fringe corners of the internet, including an anti-vax Facebook group that claimed Bill Gates would use the COVID vaccine to kill people. In recent months, she also amplified unsubstantiated corruption claims against Joe Biden while insisting, falsely, that the Obama administration illegally spied on Trump’s 2016 campaign, then tried to rig the election against him.

In turn, Trump has rewarded Thomas with an extraordinary amount of access to the Oval Office. Her advocacy group Groundswell got an audience with the president in early 2019. According to the New York Times, the meeting was arranged after Clarence and Ginni Thomas had dinner with the Trumps. (Clarence Thomas and Trump appear to be quite friendly: The justice took his clerks to meet with the president in the Oval Office at least once; Ginni attended as well.) At the White House, Groundswell’s members lobbied Trump against transgender service in the military, which he already prohibited in 2017. The ban took effect in 2019, around the time of Groundswell’s meeting, after the Supreme Court lifted lower court orders blocking it by a 5–4 vote. (Clarence Thomas did not recuse himself from the case; he has never recused from any case because of his wife’s lobbying activities.) The New York Times also reported that Ginni Thomas compiled lists of federal employees whom she deemed insufficiently loyal to the president. She sent her lists to Trump, urging him to fire the disloyal employees, though he seems to have largely ignored her. He has, however, stacked his administration with former Thomas clerks.

Response to Calista241 (Original post)

 

Casady1

(2,133 posts)
31. Scalia and Thomas
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:11 PM
Sep 2021

regularly attended the Koch Brother's getaway. Not like that was a political gathering.

32. Politics should not enter into the SCOTUS?
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:20 PM
Sep 2021

What does he say about Moscow Mitch keeping Scalia's seat empty for a year, denying Obama his constitutional right to appoint a successor? And the GQP's assertion that Scalia's replacement had to have a similar judicial temperament, when TFG shoved RW ideologue ACB into RBG's seat when she died? Nothing about politicizing the Court when that happened, right?

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
33. "...warned against politicizing the Court." - HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:40 PM
Sep 2021

Good one, Clarence!

You fucking asshole.

Mysterian

(4,585 posts)
40. Says the most lock-step right-wing nitwit political justice ever
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:01 PM
Sep 2021

in a tie with fascist goosestepper Scalia.

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