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Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:09 PM

New York's largest health care provider fires 1,400 unvaccinated employees.

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Source: New York Times

Northwell Health, New York State’s largest health care provider, announced on Monday that 1,400 employees — less than 2 percent of its staff — refused to get vaccinated against the coronavirus and had to leave their jobs.

New York is requiring that the state’s more than 650,000 hospital and nursing home workers be vaccinated, a mandate that started to take effect last week, prompting tens of thousands of employees to get their shots. Others filed lawsuits, and courtrooms across the state are determining when and how to allow exemptions to the requirement.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/nyregion/northwell-employees-fired.html



Overall this is _extremely_ encouraging because that'd put the number of holdouts at less than two percent.

After Newsom's win I think the verdict is clear: mandatory vaccines are a winning policy!

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Reply New York's largest health care provider fires 1,400 unvaccinated employees. (Original post)
cadoman Oct 4 OP
OAITW r.2.0 Oct 4 #1
SouthernDem4ever Oct 5 #24
NCjack Oct 5 #29
Steelrolled Oct 4 #2
cadoman Oct 4 #4
Steelrolled Oct 4 #5
SoCalDavidS Oct 5 #11
NJCher Oct 5 #16
PortTack Oct 5 #18
SouthernDem4ever Oct 5 #25
SergeStorms Oct 5 #10
PSPS Oct 5 #14
SergeStorms Oct 5 #20
cinematicdiversions Oct 5 #21
SouthernDem4ever Oct 5 #26
FlyingPiggy Oct 5 #33
RockRaven Oct 4 #3
Journeyman Oct 5 #6
reACTIONary Oct 5 #19
GoodRaisin Oct 5 #7
cadoman Oct 5 #8
GoodRaisin Oct 5 #9
Snackshack Oct 5 #12
cadoman Oct 5 #13
NBachers Oct 5 #15
NJCher Oct 5 #17
multigraincracker Oct 5 #23
MichMan Oct 5 #32
Lonestarblue Oct 5 #22
turbinetree Oct 5 #27
Historic NY Oct 5 #28
NCjack Oct 5 #30
IronLionZion Oct 5 #31

Response to cadoman (Original post)

Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:21 PM

1. On the plus side they can start their own health network.

Scamdemic Partners....for people that do their own research!

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 07:13 AM

24. Will be interesting to see their mortality rate statistics

oh wait, they probably won't keep track.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 09:46 AM

29. They should go into the self-directed hospital business, servicing the horse de-wormer folks.

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Response to cadoman (Original post)

Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:28 PM

2. It is really disturbing to me

 

that so many people in the health care industry in New York would choose being fired over getting a vaccine that has been shown to be extremely safe. I wonder how many other got it against their wishes, solely to keep their job.

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Response to Steelrolled (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:52 PM

4. well that's just the thing, it was an _extremely_ small number

Keep in mind that 1400 is out of 76000. It is an _extremely_ low number.

As far as the people that felt "threatened" into getting it ( ), who knows, or cares? What we can clearly see is that even people with good paying jobs are financially vulnerable enough that they'll feel they have no choice but to take it. That is indicative of a functional policy incentive! If medical professionals can't say no, we know that anyone in a lower income bracket won't have any choice either.

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Response to cadoman (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:57 PM

5. That doesn't seem extremely small to me.

 

Before this all started, I have would guessed that would the number of people who would take some persuading. When vaccination was made a condition for employment, I would have guessed only a handful of crazies would have held out, not 1400.

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Response to Steelrolled (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:31 AM

11. Just Indicitive About How Utterly Fucked Up A Portion Of This Country's Population Are nt

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Response to Steelrolled (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 02:06 AM

16. 2 per cent

Eom

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Response to Steelrolled (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 02:25 AM

18. It's not just nurses, it's all hospital workers. Anyone caring for patients needs to vaccinated

They have no business in health care if they are unvaccinated!

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Response to PortTack (Reply #18)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 07:15 AM

25. Seriously. Are they witch doctors?

I hate when one of them says, "I don't believe in vaccines". When the hell did this become a belief system?

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Response to Steelrolled (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:30 AM

10. They may have a grace period.

Some healthcare companies are giving a one week grace period, and if they get vaccinated within that time they're not fired. Some people will always push the envelope to see if management is serious with their threats.

I don't know for sure if that's the case here, but if it is, the total will probably drop considerably.

For the people who won't get vaccinated, buh bye, and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #10)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 01:10 AM

14. It takes 6 - 8 weeks to complete the vaccination process.

Some employers have been giving the option of going on leave to complete the process.

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Response to PSPS (Reply #14)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 05:34 AM

20. I'm aware of the process.

Some employers are allowing their employees to initiate the process by having the first shot by the cut off date. They needn't complete the dual vaccination process by the cut off date to retain employment.

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Response to Steelrolled (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 05:35 AM

21. Anti-vax and Nursing does really seem to go hand in hand for some reason... NT

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Response to cinematicdiversions (Reply #21)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 07:17 AM

26. maybe some of them are voodoo healers.

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Response to cinematicdiversions (Reply #21)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:43 PM

33. That's bc many of them are hard core conservatives.

I noticed when I worked in the hospital, a large swath of nurses were conservative.

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Response to cadoman (Original post)

Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:28 PM

3. The "byebyejob" subreddit is gonna be busy tomorrow!!!

Oh, Lordy...

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Response to cadoman (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:02 AM

6. Wonder how many will have a change of heart come next non-payday . . .

and reapply for their position once they've had their vaccination.

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Response to Journeyman (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 05:33 AM

19. Where I work, the policy explicitly forbids...

... rehiring anyone who was fired for not being vaxed for some long number of years. There is no real option to change your mind. When you are gone, you are gone.

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Response to cadoman (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:02 AM

7. It would be good to find another source for the story in which the link

doesn’t open up a page with other links to right wing lies.

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Response to GoodRaisin (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:05 AM

8. thank you, updated to NYT [nt]

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Response to cadoman (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 12:07 AM

9. No problem.

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Response to cadoman (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 01:01 AM

12. 1400

Out of 650,000. That’s great.

Even though we see on the news and internet mostly the anti vaxxers / maskers etc. we are not the minority they are. We do not have to coddle these people. The reason we are still in a pandemic and why my employer pushed out bringing back people on site till January is because of these people. They need to be fire and ostracized for the idiocy of listening to quacks like Scott Atlas and Fox News over reputable sources.

This is very good news. Goodbye and good riddance to the 1400.

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Response to Snackshack (Reply #12)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 01:07 AM

13. it's actually much better than that, 1400/76000, this was just one corporation

As you said, the people have spoken and it's time to get a bit more aggressive. The vast majority are pro mandate.

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Response to cadoman (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 01:17 AM

15. How many are waiting for that Big Payday when they are Vindicated and Win Big Damages?

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Response to NBachers (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 02:08 AM

17. In their wildest dreams

Eom

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Response to NBachers (Reply #15)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 06:15 AM

23. Sure hope they don't get sick with no health insurance.

No paycheck, no health insurance. They sure owned them Libs.

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Response to multigraincracker (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 04:06 PM

32. Are they not eligible for the ACA exchange?

Perhaps they went on their spouses insurance or found employment in another field.

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Response to cadoman (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 06:12 AM

22. Those of us who got vaccinated are tired of the holdouts.

They deserve to lose their jobs if they’re too lazy to learn the truth. All it takes is a few minutes with Google to find information to dispel the myths about how the vaccine may be dangerous. I have no sympathy for people who would rather believe Fox News or some obscure wacko conspiracy site than the fact that millions of people have safety taken the vaccine.

I recently learned from a MAGAT that one of the reasons the MAGATs aren’t concerned about the number of Covid deaths is that they’re being told that the 700,000 US deaths are actually the total around the world and the US media is just lying about the number! I never would have thought that we have so many utterly ignorant people in this country.

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Response to cadoman (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 08:49 AM

28. Meanwhile the fired teachers went on a rampage...

right in front of the cops. Good example for children.

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Response to cadoman (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 09:49 AM

30. There must be a need for personal medical services in the anti-vax sector. Perfect match.

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Response to cadoman (Original post)

Tue Oct 5, 2021, 10:58 AM

31. There are plenty of jobs available in healthcare

for anyone looking for long term career opportunities. Years ago there were a bunch of new nursing grads unable to find their first job. I doubt that is a problem these days.

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