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jpak
(41,741 posts)These are our most capable subs.
Not good
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,092 posts)The Los Angeles class SSN's are still pretty capable but they are nearing the end of their service life.
Will be interesting to hear what they hit, if it's ever determined.
jpak
(41,741 posts)On purpose
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,092 posts)and the most likely culprit would be of Chinese origin.
paleotn
(17,778 posts)Or more likely a crazy Wang Lei.
Martin68
(22,663 posts)ruet
(10,035 posts)and hit an uncharted object.
Martin68
(22,663 posts)likely.
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brush
(53,467 posts)international waters as China is trying to "own" that region?
International waters belong to no one, so to everyone. If you don't exercise freedom of navigation, you can lose the right through default.
Martin68
(22,663 posts)Submarines, be definition, are supposed to remain undetected and could not demonstrate anything.
S/V Loner
(8,992 posts)have a change of command.
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Lasher
(27,497 posts)Submarines are technically ships, but they are traditionally referred to as boats. As they developed into larger vessels - and rightfully should have been called ships - the original term stuck.
NutmegYankee
(16,177 posts)They are technically ships, but the term has stuck around.
S/V Loner
(8,992 posts)I can assure you they call them boats.
denbot
(9,894 posts)I toured the Bluefish in the late 70's early 80's,while it was tied to our outside, Ashdod Israel. I can most assuredly confirm the usage of the noun "boat", after meeting the Ex O at the doorway of HIS CABIN IN HIS SKIVIEES WRITING A LETTER. I was so shocked at not just being in officers country near midnight, both of us mildly tipsee, and as clear as a bell I still remember the Ex O's, (remaining seated of course) his big smile, and saying welcome onboard "our boat"..
A destroyerman, hell nearly any surface sailor keeps a wary eye on the Ex O. They are always the skipper's ramrod, and if you step over a line, rammed by him you will be. Submariners are a different breed altogether.
S/V Loner
(8,992 posts)an ex COB that now works for NAVSEA, who I have worked with for years, needed something from me and I told him he had to check something first. His reply was..."I'll go put eyes on the boat."
S/V Loner
(8,992 posts)I don't know how well I would do on a Tin Can LOL.
I have never been in the Navy but have worked with the submarine fleet for 20 years.
denbot
(9,894 posts)Yeah buddy, tin can sailor to the bone.
getagrip_already
(14,226 posts)If it was a part of the ocean floor or a surface ship they should have detected.
If they hit another sub acting aggressively then probably not.
It had to be something with some mass to throw the crew around.
paleotn
(17,778 posts)when said objects were Soviet missile boats.
NutmegYankee
(16,177 posts)NullTuples
(6,017 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,177 posts)This actually happened a few times, though I was stating this tongue in cheek as a "great way".
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Submariner
(12,483 posts)relying on charts to highlight seamounts while running slow and quiet.
Not all oceans are charted fully, and this is likely another bathymetry failure we have missed much like the USS San Francisco (SSN-711) collision in 2005.
Shanti Shanti Shanti
(12,047 posts)Shellback Squid
(8,909 posts)I hope no one was injured on the other vessel
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)that China has, perhaps one is not return to port.
TomWilm
(1,832 posts)Two Seawolf Class submarines were authorized by Congress, which in 1995 agreed to terminate the program at three boats. President Clinton endorsed the construction of SSN-23 as the most cost- effective method of retaining the vitality of the submarine industrial base while bridging the gap to the future New Attack Submarine. The Fiscal Year 1998 $153.4 million budget request was the final increment of funding required for the third SEAWOLF to complete the program.
https://man.fas.org/dod-101/sys/ship/ssn-21.htm
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Shanti Shanti Shanti
(12,047 posts)First they come jackin around our aircraft carriers with their "chicklet" scout craft, now they getting bold.
Take out their undersea bases! Then take out their homeworld! Show them we mean business.