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demmiblue

(36,838 posts)
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 12:58 PM Oct 2021

Trump hid over $70 million in losses on his D.C. hotel, House committee report alleges

Source: CNBC

WASHINGTON – Former President Donald Trump's luxury hotel in Washington, D.C., lost more than $70 million from 2016 to 2020, according to newly released confidential filings that his accountants submitted to the hotel's landlord, the General Services Administration.

While the hotel was losing money, Trump's annual financial disclosures filed with the Office of Government Ethics reported publicly only the hotel's revenues, which added up to nearly $156.6 million.

Yet over that same period, Trump's accounting firm, WeiserMazars LLP, disclosed in confidential reports to GSA that the hotel lost nearly $73.9 million.

According to a new report issued Friday by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, the effect of the discrepancy between what Trump publicly reported and what he privately disclosed was to mislead the public about the president's financial situation.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/08/trump-hid-over-70-million-in-losses-on-dc-hotel-house-panel-alleges.html




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Trump hid over $70 million in losses on his D.C. hotel, House committee report alleges (Original Post) demmiblue Oct 2021 OP
American's worst businessman Deminpenn Oct 2021 #1
Trump reported $150 million in income but the hotel incurred more than $70 million in losses Botany Oct 2021 #2
Aren't all the kids still getting hefty payments in millions Deminpenn Oct 2021 #4
I don't know but I think most of Trump's money has come from money laundering, grifts, and "loans" Botany Oct 2021 #5
Which could mean. . . NQAS Oct 2021 #16
He robs Peter to pay Paul. SergeStorms Oct 2021 #18
Sometimes, TFG robs Peter and then robs Paul NCjack Oct 2021 #30
Or lots of the "operating capital" for that Hotel came in "off the books." Botany Oct 2021 #24
Make him pay taxes on $80M. keithbvadu2 Oct 2021 #36
Are these real losses or paper losses created by special real estate rules? Lonestarblue Oct 2021 #3
That's the question OrangeJoe Oct 2021 #8
I'm betting "paper losses" to avoid paying taxes KS Toronado Oct 2021 #12
I think real losses because... reACTIONary Oct 2021 #32
Paper losses and probably a load of bullshit "bills" from contractors and vendors Bengus81 Oct 2021 #33
He sure knows how to make money disappear... stillcool Oct 2021 #6
Yo, Donald. Albuquerque car washes. Mawspam2 Oct 2021 #7
Have an A-1 day! ZonkerHarris Oct 2021 #9
Effing Lydia Aviation Pro Oct 2021 #25
Nail salons Aviation Pro Oct 2021 #23
Bet he 'found' it in his pocket Marthe48 Oct 2021 #10
See, he cares more about his image than anything. Thats why i dont want him jailed. oldsoftie Oct 2021 #11
It would seem to me that jail time would accelerate the collapse of his phony empire. olegramps Oct 2021 #19
He'd just blame Democrats.... SergeStorms Oct 2021 #20
but he has SO MANY supporters, why didnt THEY support his businesses? oldsoftie Oct 2021 #38
And doesn't a president need to reveal significant sources of income, etc.? I seem to recall usual SWBTATTReg Oct 2021 #13
Profit? Losses? CloudWatcher Oct 2021 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Oct 2021 #15
"The Art of the Steal", by Asshole45. SergeStorms Oct 2021 #17
Republican liars are toxic Champp Oct 2021 #21
I'D like to see the gao cancel his lease & screw him on selling the lease ! monkeyman1 Oct 2021 #22
I think... Mike Nelson Oct 2021 #26
But Greyhead Oct 2021 #27
They will be once he uses them wnylib Oct 2021 #28
An interest-only loan should be considered "nonperforming" by Ilsa Oct 2021 #29
On Nicole Wallace suggesting it involved money laundering. LiberalFighter Oct 2021 #31
Fraud Johnny2X2X Oct 2021 #34
On CNN I heard that if he had diversified his properties BigmanPigman Oct 2021 #35
Fuck him and his shithole Blue Owl Oct 2021 #37
"reported publicly only the hotel's revenues, which added up to nearly $156.6 million" Hugh_Lebowski Oct 2021 #39

Deminpenn

(15,273 posts)
4. Aren't all the kids still getting hefty payments in millions
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 01:15 PM
Oct 2021

yearly from Fred Trump's estate or trust or whatever it is? That's wherethe bulk of Trump's income comes from, iirc.

Botany

(70,483 posts)
5. I don't know but I think most of Trump's money has come from money laundering, grifts, and "loans"
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 01:21 PM
Oct 2021

He is not a billionaire and i doubt he is even a millionaire and it is all a con based on O.P.M. (other people's
money). I think he has gone through most of his daddy's money, although he has lots of properties but
most are leveraged to the hilt, and he owes Russia, China, and Saudi Arabia over a billion $s but at the end
of the day he is underwater.

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
16. Which could mean. . .
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:08 PM
Oct 2021

That actual cash expenses were $220 million.

Or it could be from depreciating assets.

If the former, then how did he cover the $70 million in losses?

Apart from his "misleading" submissions to GAO, what did his projections for the hotel look like when he submitted his bid to run the hotel? Lemme guess. Revenues well in excess of the $156 million reported, expenses essentially zero, and profitability from the first month onward.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
18. He robs Peter to pay Paul.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:21 PM
Oct 2021

That's been his m.o. since day one of this "self made man's" glorious career.

All smoke and mirrors, with no "there", there.

Botany

(70,483 posts)
24. Or lots of the "operating capital" for that Hotel came in "off the books."
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:46 PM
Oct 2021

Hey, Mr. Russian Oil Oligarch want to see President Donald? Fine stay @ his D.C. hotel
and pay cash. God only knows what kinds of scams got run through that hotel when
Trump was President. I know that China in his first week as POTUS "rented" some rooms for
20 million and Donald skimmed 15 off the top which he then parked in a bank in China.

Lonestarblue

(9,963 posts)
3. Are these real losses or paper losses created by special real estate rules?
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 01:11 PM
Oct 2021

Trump has long avoided paying taxes by claiming faie expenses, such as paying a salary to Ivanka and then also paying her consulting fees for the same work.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
32. I think real losses because...
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 05:24 PM
Oct 2021

... he doesn't and never did own the building. He leased it from the government.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
33. Paper losses and probably a load of bullshit "bills" from contractors and vendors
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 05:52 PM
Oct 2021

Trump probably em..."pays" a lawn service $4,000 per month to mow the lawn and trim at Trump Tower.

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
11. See, he cares more about his image than anything. Thats why i dont want him jailed.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 01:55 PM
Oct 2021

I want his businesses to fail. Jailing him makes him an even bigger hero. Being a failure is something he himself cant handle.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
19. It would seem to me that jail time would accelerate the collapse of his phony empire.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:23 PM
Oct 2021

Just how much of this is just plain leverage. I had a good friend that was riding high with mortgaged titles and then came the market collapse and he was bankrupt over night.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
20. He'd just blame Democrats....
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:25 PM
Oct 2021

for bankrupting him. They just couldn't stand his Horatio Alger success story.

Nothing is ever his fault.

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
38. but he has SO MANY supporters, why didnt THEY support his businesses?
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 11:35 AM
Oct 2021

He could easily put a jail term on the dems, but failing to survive in business encompasses all of us!

The idiots are certainly still sending him money as far as i know

SWBTATTReg

(22,100 posts)
13. And doesn't a president need to reveal significant sources of income, etc.? I seem to recall usual
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:03 PM
Oct 2021

filings etc. None of us heard anything about this abatement of not having to pay any principal (just interest), a significant source of income for six years...

CloudWatcher

(1,846 posts)
14. Profit? Losses?
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:03 PM
Oct 2021

I would treat any statements of losses with the same skepticism of statements of profits. He'll never tell the truth if he can avoid it. You don't pay taxes on losses, so there's motivation to lie, especially if it's a "confidential" statement that won't hurt his brand.

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
17. "The Art of the Steal", by Asshole45.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:16 PM
Oct 2021

That seems like some critical information to omit when you're trying to sell the business, don't you think?

Once a con man, always a con man.

Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
26. I think...
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:00 PM
Oct 2021

... the Trump family needs to live more simply. They should pay what they can, and go to work. McDonald's is hiring. Crooked Donald can retire on a big pension (although he doesn't deserve one). Also - prisons have free meals, a bed, and a toilet.

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
29. An interest-only loan should be considered "nonperforming" by
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 04:05 PM
Oct 2021

the FDIC. I wouldn't invest in Deutsche Bank. They are too risky.

Johnny2X2X

(19,024 posts)
34. Fraud
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 06:10 PM
Oct 2021

Um, he’s been trying to sell this property. If he’s lied in paperwork about its finances to try to sell it he’s committed a crime.

BigmanPigman

(51,583 posts)
35. On CNN I heard that if he had diversified his properties
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 07:21 PM
Oct 2021

when he became POTUS, like he was supposed to do, he would be $80 million richer and still have his businesses and properties after he left office. What a moron.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
39. "reported publicly only the hotel's revenues, which added up to nearly $156.6 million"
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 01:40 PM
Oct 2021

It's totally possible to have $156M in revenue, but also negative $70M in profits. Just means your costs were $226M.

Ergo, seems more a case of omission than outright lying.

Office of Government Ethics probably should not have allowed him to report only the revenue number.

But if that is their policy (to allow it), then he technically did nothing wrong. He's a master of exploiting loopholes, I'll give him that one thing.

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