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Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:42 PM Oct 2021

Biden declines Trump request to withhold White House records from Jan. 6 committee

Source: NBC News

WASHINGTON — The White House on Friday formally blocked an attempt by former President Donald Trump to withhold documents from Congress related to the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, setting up a legal showdown between the current and former presidents over executive privilege.

In a letter to the National Archives obtained by NBC News, White House Counsel Dana Remus rejected an attempt by Trump’s attorneys to withhold documents requested by the House Select Committee regarding the then-president’s activities on Jan. 6, writing that “President Biden has determined that an assertion of executive privilege is not in the best interests of the United States, and therefore is not justified as to any of the documents.”

“These are unique and extraordinary circumstances,” Remus added. “Congress is examining an assault on our Constitution and democratic institutions provoked and fanned by those sworn to protect them, and the conduct under investigation extends far beyond typical deliberations concerning the proper discharge of the President’s constitutional responsibilities. The constitutional protections of executive privilege should not be used to shield, from Congress or the public, information that reflects a clear and apparent effort to subvert the Constitution itself.”


Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-declines-trump-request-withhold-white-house-records-jan-6-n1281120



Hat tip to Kyle Griffin.
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Biden declines Trump request to withhold White House records from Jan. 6 committee (Original Post) Ellipsis Oct 2021 OP
Thank you, Joe. Champp Oct 2021 #1
but traitor would sell them to the highest bidder Marthe48 Oct 2021 #2
Oh yes. SergeStorms Oct 2021 #12
Even from his daughter-wife? calimary Oct 2021 #20
Especially princess Ivanka. SergeStorms Oct 2021 #25
So they are already asserting that there's extremely damaging info in there. n/t pnwmom Oct 2021 #3
No, not at all. SergeStorms Oct 2021 #14
K & R! 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2021 #4
"These are unique and extraordinary circumstances." padah513 Oct 2021 #5
I don't understand why this "sets up a legal showdown between the current and former presidents" maxrandb Oct 2021 #6
Agreed. And yet, no tax returns, no Mueller report, no accountability. He will drag it out legally. Evolve Dammit Oct 2021 #7
That's his schtick. That weasel-trick has always worked - at least so far. calimary Oct 2021 #21
Yup Botany Oct 2021 #23
Because Trump has standing to assert EP. And Biden can take a different posiiton. onenote Oct 2021 #26
What (and when) is the next step? intrepidity Oct 2021 #36
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Oct 2021 #8
Your'e Welcome Uncle Joe n/t. Ellipsis Oct 2021 #9
"Legal showdown" my ass. lambchopp59 Oct 2021 #10
the senate report that read so damning to TFG ! 394 pages worth ! monkeyman1 Oct 2021 #11
I needed to hear that! Ohioboy Oct 2021 #13
This line stood out for me. ShazzieB Oct 2021 #15
I Just hope TFG doesn't go to his hand picked supreme court. kimbutgar Oct 2021 #16
That never occurred to me. BigmanPigman Oct 2021 #24
If he does orangecrush Oct 2021 #32
On point. Eat it Donny boy. BootinUp Oct 2021 #17
I bet the NSA/CIA have recordings of every phone call out of the White House too Submariner Oct 2021 #18
Thank you, Mr. President! lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #19
President Biden is not only a lawyer but has taught... Botany Oct 2021 #22
As he should Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2021 #27
K&R Blue Owl Oct 2021 #28
Thanks for the kick Blue Owl. n/t Ellipsis Oct 2021 #29
Taking no prisoners on treasonous activity. nt oasis Oct 2021 #30
This is a BFD! orangecrush Oct 2021 #31
Last sentence of the third paragraph is spot on. Beartracks Oct 2021 #33
Release them now. hamsterjill Oct 2021 #34
what nerve! azureblue Oct 2021 #35

Marthe48

(16,926 posts)
2. but traitor would sell them to the highest bidder
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:48 PM
Oct 2021

and after he's dead, his spawn will sell out where they can

SergeStorms

(19,190 posts)
12. Oh yes.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:32 PM
Oct 2021

After he croaks the kids will all release "tell all" books about life with the world's most famous grifter.
It wouldn't surprise me if they're already written, just waiting for the blessed day of his demise. They're certainly not a sentimental lot, and money is their driving force.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
20. Even from his daughter-wife?
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 05:12 PM
Oct 2021

I can’t imagine Ivanka turning on her older-lover-OOPS!-I-mean-her-dad like that.

SergeStorms

(19,190 posts)
25. Especially princess Ivanka.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 06:29 PM
Oct 2021

What sells better than sex?

She'll spill all the "confidential" stuff, which will turn out to be nothing more than we already know, but....you know, a grifters got to grift. Anything to separate people from their money. That's daddy's little girl.

padah513

(2,498 posts)
5. "These are unique and extraordinary circumstances."
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:57 PM
Oct 2021

I hope that becomes the mantra from them every time.

maxrandb

(15,310 posts)
6. I don't understand why this "sets up a legal showdown between the current and former presidents"
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 02:57 PM
Oct 2021

These documents need to be released NOW!!!

There is no legal basis to allow Donnie Dipshit to try to play his tired and corrupt "run out the clock" bullshit.

Give these documents to the committee now and let Donnie Shit for Brains try to sue.

We simply can't wait for two years while the courts dick around on something THAT HAS NO BASIS IN ESTABLISHED LAW

calimary

(81,179 posts)
21. That's his schtick. That weasel-trick has always worked - at least so far.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 05:14 PM
Oct 2021

But nothing lasts forever. Not even for YOU, donald.

Botany

(70,476 posts)
23. Yup
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 05:33 PM
Oct 2021

Release the documents now to the Committee and then let TFG's retroactively try to stop the process.

onenote

(42,660 posts)
26. Because Trump has standing to assert EP. And Biden can take a different posiiton.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 06:48 PM
Oct 2021

And it can then go to the courts, although greater weight should be given to Biden's position.

As for why they can't be released immediately? Because the documents are in the possession of the National Archives and the process by which the Archivist of the United States releases presidential records is governed by a statutory scheme that establishes a particular timeline, including notice requirements.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
10. "Legal showdown" my ass.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:14 PM
Oct 2021

Our side is doing what's legal, what's part and parcel of constitutional duty of high office.
TFG is playing off "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain".
Worst part is, about 35 percent of citizens are completely bamboozeld by the chicanery.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
11. the senate report that read so damning to TFG ! 394 pages worth !
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:16 PM
Oct 2021

IT'S pretty good so far ! that's what i'm doing this week end . being retired I can do that !

ShazzieB

(16,348 posts)
15. This line stood out for me.
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 03:35 PM
Oct 2021

"The constitutional protections of executive privilege should not be used to shield, from Congress or the public, information that reflects a clear and apparent effort to subvert the Constitution itself.”

TFG evidently thinks executive privilege exists for the express purpose of shielding whatever information he wants to shield from whoever and for whatever reasons he wishes to shield it. I have a feeling he's about to find out just how wrong he is.

Submariner

(12,502 posts)
18. I bet the NSA/CIA have recordings of every phone call out of the White House too
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 04:15 PM
Oct 2021

lets dig those out and bury this scumbag for good.

Botany

(70,476 posts)
22. President Biden is not only a lawyer but has taught...
Fri Oct 8, 2021, 05:26 PM
Oct 2021

.... Constitutional Law for years too. This is a gut shot to TFG and Joe and his people know that TFG and his lawyers have little chance @ arguing that TFG's claim of executive privilege is not only moot because he is no longer an executive but protection of the Constitution and America's democracy supercede TFG's claim of
E.P..

BTW I have a 2.3 from Ohio University in Plant Biology.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
34. Release them now.
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 08:30 AM
Oct 2021

Before Trump has time to tie it all up in court. Oh that’s not legal, you say? Not possible to do, you say? There are rules, you say?

Ooooooops! Gosh, maybe they get released anyway.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
35. what nerve!
Sat Oct 9, 2021, 10:10 AM
Oct 2021

Donnie attacks Joe, slanders his family, insults his dead son, even tries to steal an election from him, and THEN comes around asking for a favor?
What goes around comes around, Traitor Don.

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