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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,900 posts)
Sun Oct 17, 2021, 01:44 PM Oct 2021

Buttigieg warns Manchin of resistance to Biden's climate plan: 'It will cost lives'

Source: The Guardian

The transportation secretary Pete Buttigieg delivered a blunt warning on Sunday to Joe Manchin and other Senate Democrats who are forcing Joe Biden to scale back his climate crisis agenda: your resistance is going to cost lives.

Manchin, senator for the coal-dependent state of West Virginia, opposes elements of the president’s clean energy performance program (CEPP), a $150bn central plank of his Build Back Better plan and $3.5tn spending bill.

White House officials have acknowledged that clean energy and clean electricity provisions are likely to be dropped from the bill to secure the support of Manchin and fellow sceptic Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona. Both votes are critical in a divided 50-50 Senate.

Buttigieg appeared to express his disappointment in Manchin’s stance on Sunday, telling CNN’s State of the Union that the holdout politicians’ stonewalling of Biden’s ambitious climate plan could be deadly.



Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/buttigieg-warns-manchin-of-resistance-to-bidens-climate-plan-it-will-cost-lives/ar-AAPDanP

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Buttigieg warns Manchin of resistance to Biden's climate plan: 'It will cost lives' (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2021 OP
greedy people can't be swayed by such trivialities as "human lives" mucifer Oct 2021 #1
People are in their way, to be run over and trashed. They are so damn sick. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2021 #3
K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Manchin and Sinema will forever be responsible for the RKP5637 Oct 2021 #2
They don't and will not care. Justice matters. Oct 2021 #9
Sadly, quite true. And some will applaud them. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2021 #10
Those people are sociopaths. SunImp Oct 2021 #13
GOP AKA "The Party of Sociopaths!" n/t RKP5637 Oct 2021 #15
And we ought to hang that around both their necks like a neon sign calimary Oct 2021 #12
Yes!!! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2021 #14
And let's make sure to hang that around the neck of Martin Eden Oct 2021 #31
Yep. That, too. calimary Oct 2021 #34
Breaking up is hard to do ampm Oct 2021 #4
Yep dinos I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2021 #7
These greedy people don't care that their grandkids are being infused with all sorts of toxins Maraya1969 Oct 2021 #5
"But it'll cost me precious money from my coal-industry backers!" -Manchin sakabatou Oct 2021 #6
This is the framing the WH, Pelosi and Schumer should be using Fiendish Thingy Oct 2021 #8
I think it would be easier for r's to move left than Dems to move right Marthe48 Oct 2021 #11
National advertising campaign--now Auggie Oct 2021 #16
Kick them off their committees Bayard Oct 2021 #17
Yes! Indeed. Duppers Oct 2021 #19
Since in the past bills have been written to aid hurricane ravaged areas, why can't aid to states LiberalArkie Oct 2021 #18
i hope their peer group in history 90-percent Oct 2021 #20
Manchin's half-assed approach to addressing climate change Politicub Oct 2021 #21
Meet Joe Manchin Cetacea Oct 2021 #22
I am SO done with Manchin AND Sinema. 🤬 ShazzieB Oct 2021 #23
Buttigieg better watch out! ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2021 #24
I think our dear Mr. Manchin is more concerned with losing votes than lives... /nt artemisia1 Oct 2021 #25
This is why I do not believe that anything of any consequence will be done. marie999 Oct 2021 #26
Yes, but scientists are now in agreement that it is irreversible. But we can at least try to slow it Cetacea Oct 2021 #36
Thank you Sec. Pete. Nt BootinUp Oct 2021 #27
Can't we excommunicate, expel, castrate or otherwise dissect Manchin from the party lambchopp59 Oct 2021 #28
I realize Joe Manchin is frustrating, Griefbird Oct 2021 #29
This. CrispyQ Oct 2021 #33
Climate change will kill BILLIONS by the end of the century NickB79 Oct 2021 #30
Maybe Manchin needs to see Earth from space. CrispyQ Oct 2021 #32
Maybe the Democrats should field a primary challenger to Manchin .... Shoonra Oct 2021 #35

RKP5637

(67,103 posts)
2. K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Manchin and Sinema will forever be responsible for the
Sun Oct 17, 2021, 01:49 PM
Oct 2021

deaths, and death of the planet ... but they will die off and be forgotten, and future generations will be stuck with the disastrous consequences. What a legacy to have.

calimary

(81,209 posts)
12. And we ought to hang that around both their necks like a neon sign
Sun Oct 17, 2021, 03:31 PM
Oct 2021

for as long as they’re in public office.

DO NOT let this be forgotten. Especially when it’s time for them to face primary election season.

ampm

(301 posts)
4. Breaking up is hard to do
Sun Oct 17, 2021, 02:13 PM
Oct 2021

They have been republicans from the start. That's what they always do play the part and come out because no one can stop them. Blowing up the economy is the game. They know they'll be paid well and will move on and become lobbyists for their true party

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
5. These greedy people don't care that their grandkids are being infused with all sorts of toxins
Sun Oct 17, 2021, 02:20 PM
Oct 2021

I can't even imagine how they can justify it to themselves. But they do; and their actions result in all sorts of toxins, like Benzene, particulates, aluminum and mercury being ingested in these babies that they say they care so much for.

It is a soul sickness.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,570 posts)
8. This is the framing the WH, Pelosi and Schumer should be using
Sun Oct 17, 2021, 03:00 PM
Oct 2021

Get the media off their fixation on dollar figures and focus on the tangible benefits and even more importantly, the catastrophic consequences of inaction on climate.

Marthe48

(16,934 posts)
11. I think it would be easier for r's to move left than Dems to move right
Sun Oct 17, 2021, 03:25 PM
Oct 2021

We are talking about moral and ethical issues. In good conscience, in any conscience, liberals can't move right. There are not just human lives and human endeavors to consider, but the survival of the whole world.

Planet Earth will survive past our existence here, but the world humans built and know won't go on the way we are mismanaging it.

Auggie

(31,161 posts)
16. National advertising campaign--now
Sun Oct 17, 2021, 03:38 PM
Oct 2021

Celebrities, Democrats, Republicans, Scientists, Religious leaders ...

One message: "It will cost lives."

Bayard

(22,057 posts)
17. Kick them off their committees
Sun Oct 17, 2021, 04:00 PM
Oct 2021

They started playing hardball, how will they like it back at them? Manchin is Chair of Energy and Natural Resources, for gawdsakes!
Sinema is on Commerce, SCIENCE, and TRANSPORTATION.

LiberalArkie

(15,709 posts)
18. Since in the past bills have been written to aid hurricane ravaged areas, why can't aid to states
Sun Oct 17, 2021, 04:09 PM
Oct 2021

be written to only sent to aide to the states that want it, ie voted for it.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
20. i hope their peer group in history
Sun Oct 17, 2021, 04:25 PM
Oct 2021

includes lee harvey oswald, john wilkes booth, benedict arnold, hitler, saddam hussein, idi amin, moamar gahidaffi, john wayne gacy, and many other psyckpathic mass murderers and traitors of history.


-90% jimmy

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
21. Manchin's half-assed approach to addressing climate change
Sun Oct 17, 2021, 04:46 PM
Oct 2021

will accomplish little, if anything.

We either commit to mitigating our contributions to climate change and addressing its effects, or we don’t. There isn’t an in-between solution that will cause the climate to change “just a little.”

A moderate position on climate change is absurd… like there’s a thermostat that can be turned down just a bit.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
26. This is why I do not believe that anything of any consequence will be done.
Sun Oct 17, 2021, 07:06 PM
Oct 2021

Worldwide, the majority of people are only interested in themselves and probably their immediate family. They don't care what the planet will be like in 100 years. Unfortunately, they don't realize that climate change is already affecting people's lives. If we have not reached the tipping point yet, it isn't far off. My grandchildren will not have good lives and my geat-grandchildren are screwed. We have been buying land in the mountains but low enough for them to grow their own food but land is getting too expensive for us to buy. We are growing some of our own food now not because we need it, but to teach our great-grandchildren how to live off the land. Rich people believe they can live well even with climate change but they don't seem to realize that what they will have is going to be what other people will also need. Wars will be fought over the good land. Things will keep getting worse until the world's population drops enough for the planet to start healing.

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
36. Yes, but scientists are now in agreement that it is irreversible. But we can at least try to slow it
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 02:26 AM
Oct 2021

...and with some luck figure out a way to slow it.

Griefbird

(96 posts)
29. I realize Joe Manchin is frustrating,
Sun Oct 17, 2021, 09:36 PM
Oct 2021

but it wouldn't be a problem if any of the 50 effing Republicans in the Senate would do their goddamn jobs for the American people. Of course Joe Manchin is an obstacle in passing bills that benefit our country, but the real enemy to be attacked without mercy is the Republican party.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
33. This.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 10:00 AM
Oct 2021

We need non-stop ad campaigns pointing out that only one party is responsible for stalling action on climate change.

I know the media isn't on our side. I know they have a conservative bent. What I don't know is why we just throw in the towel without a fight. It's like we don't believe in marketing.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
30. Climate change will kill BILLIONS by the end of the century
Sun Oct 17, 2021, 10:06 PM
Oct 2021

I'm not even exaggerating. The global population will be cut in half in the next century due to crop failures, sea level rise, economic collapse and war.

We're likely already past the point of no return. Prepare yourselves and your families now, as best you can.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
32. Maybe Manchin needs to see Earth from space.
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:57 AM
Oct 2021


The system is seriously fucked when one individual can thwart the will of the majority.

Shoonra

(520 posts)
35. Maybe the Democrats should field a primary challenger to Manchin ....
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 07:25 PM
Oct 2021

... An alternative Dem candidate for Senate, especially one with some likelihood of winning, may make Manchin see the wisdom of supporting the national trend instead of narrow local interests.

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