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brooklynite

(93,869 posts)
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 06:26 PM Oct 2021

Two senior House Democrats announce they won't run for reelection in 2022

Source: CNN

(CNN)Two long-time House Democrats, North Carolina's David Price and Pennsylvania's Mike Doyle, announced Monday that they will not seek reelection in 2022.

Price, first elected in 1986, and Doyle, first elected in 1994, both represent districts that President Joe Biden carried comfortably in 2020. But the retirement of long-serving lawmakers may reflect worries about Democrats holding onto the House next year. The party out of the White House traditionally suffers midterm loses after the election of a new president.

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"I believe the time has come to pass the torch to the next generation," Doyle said in a statement.

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"In retiring from a job like the one I hold, one should not expect a complete sense of closure," Price said in his statement, noting that he will be leaving behind two leadership posts as chair of the Transportation-Housing and Urban Development Appropriations Subcommittee and the House Democracy Partnership (HDP), a bipartisan group that works with legislatures overseas to improve governance.


Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/18/politics/david-price-north-carolina-democrats-2022/index.html
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Two senior House Democrats announce they won't run for reelection in 2022 (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2021 OP
"both represent districts that President Joe Biden carried comfortably in 2020" BumRushDaShow Oct 2021 #1
Not what it meant... brooklynite Oct 2021 #2
Here is what the sentence says BumRushDaShow Oct 2021 #4
Not what I was referring to... brooklynite Oct 2021 #5
And that is where we disagree BumRushDaShow Oct 2021 #6
Yeah I read this in Politico and groaned at their description Bev54 Oct 2021 #3

BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
1. "both represent districts that President Joe Biden carried comfortably in 2020"
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 08:14 PM
Oct 2021

so that right there does not comport to the ridiculous leap to an illogical segue -

But the retirement of long-serving lawmakers may reflect worries about Democrats holding onto the House next year.


Those 2 blue seats have nothing to do with "worries". Any concern might be for the disposition of "swing" seats.

They carefully minimized this too -

So far this cycle, 22 members of the House -- including 13 Democrats and 9 Republicans -- have announced they're not running for reelection in 2022.


But no "worries" for the GOP taking back the House.

The breakdown - https://ballotpedia.org/List_of_U.S._Congress_incumbents_who_are_not_running_for_re-election_in_2022

Incumbents retiring from public office

Michael Doyle | Democratic Pennsylvania
David Price | Democratic North Carolina
John Yarmuth | Democratic Kentucky
Anthony Gonzalez | Republican Ohio
Ron Kind | Democratic Wisconsin
Cheri Bustos | Democratic Illinois
Kevin Brady | Republican Texas
Filemon Vela | Democratic Texas
Tom Reed | Republican New York
Ann Kirkpatrick | Democratic Arizona
Eddie Bernice Johnson | Democratic Texas

Incumbents seeking other offices

Running for Senate, 2022

Conor Lamb | Democrat Pennsylvania's 17th
Billy Long | Republican Missouri's 7th
Vicky Hartzler | Republican Missouri's 4th
Val Demings | Democratic Florida's 10th
Ted Budd | Republican North Carolina's 13th
Tim Ryan | Democratic Ohio's 13th
Mo Brooks | Republican Alabama's 5th

Running for governor, 2022

Charlie Crist | Democratic Florida's 13th
Lee Zeldin | Republican New York's 1st

brooklynite

(93,869 posts)
2. Not what it meant...
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 08:53 PM
Oct 2021

...some people may choose to retire if they expect to go back into the minority in 2022.

BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
4. Here is what the sentence says
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:07 PM
Oct 2021
Price, first elected in 1986, and Doyle, first elected in 1994, both represent districts that President Joe Biden carried comfortably in 2020.


For Price, being in office since 1986 is what? 35 years. He is 81 years old. And for Doyle, since 1994 is what? 27 years? As it is, Doyle was originally a Republican who switched parties.

The redistricting here in PA is not going to be like the nonsense that was done in 2010 (which was "undone" in 2018) as long as we have a Democrat as a Governor and a state Supreme Court that is majority-Democratic - 5 (D) - (2) R (where neither of those criteria were in place in 2010, because it was a trifecta of GOP control of the PA Executive/Legislative/Judicial branches).

brooklynite

(93,869 posts)
5. Not what I was referring to...
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 09:23 PM
Oct 2021

You questioned:

But the retirement of long-serving lawmakers may reflect worries about Democrats holding onto the House next year.


IOW lawmakers, especially long-term ones, may not see a Democratic Majority in their remaining years, so better to get out now.

BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
6. And that is where we disagree
Tue Oct 19, 2021, 04:59 AM
Oct 2021

If one wants to have "worries", one would not use examples of the retirement of 2 Democrats in blue seats. One would point to someone in a purple or red-leaning seat, like Connor Lamb (PA-17) or Tim Ryan (OH-13) both who plan to run for U.S. Senate, who are giving up their seats.

Those "swing" seats are the ones to "worry" about.

Alternately, using your argument, why does that not apply to the GOP who DOES have "long term members" who are retiring.- like Kevin Brady (TX-8) or Vicky Hartzler (MO-4) (the latter who is running for Senate)?

If the GOP wants to secure a "majority", the potential for them losing during a redistricting year - particularly in any swing seats, should be a concern to them.

Bev54

(9,963 posts)
3. Yeah I read this in Politico and groaned at their description
Mon Oct 18, 2021, 08:53 PM
Oct 2021

that they were retiring because that it has become evident that the dems will likely lose the house in 2022. Politico has become just another rw outlet.

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