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demmiblue

(36,838 posts)
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 09:39 AM Oct 2021

Calling Sinema an Obstacle to Progress, 5 Veterans Quit Her Advisory Council

Source: NYT

WASHINGTON — Five veterans tapped to advise Senator Kyrsten Sinema, an Arizona Democrat, resigned from their posts on Thursday, publicly accusing her of “hanging your constituents out to dry” in the latest sign of growing hostility toward a centrist who has emerged as a key holdout on President Biden’s agenda.

In a scathing letter obtained by The New York Times, the veterans took Ms. Sinema to task for her refusal to abolish the filibuster and her opposition to parts of Mr. Biden’s multitrillion-dollar social safety net, education, climate and tax plan, stances that have stymied some of his top priorities.

“You have become one of the principal obstacles to progress, answering to big donors rather than your own people,” the veterans wrote in a letter that is to be featured in a new advertisement by Common Defense, a progressive veterans’ activist group that has targeted Ms. Sinema.

“We shouldn’t have to buy representation from you, and your failure to stand by your people and see their urgent needs is alarming,” they added.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/21/us/politics/sinema-veterans-resign.html

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Calling Sinema an Obstacle to Progress, 5 Veterans Quit Her Advisory Council (Original Post) demmiblue Oct 2021 OP
They aren't the ones giving her money . she won't care. mucifer Oct 2021 #1
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Oct 2021 #11
She's gonna milk her one term for all she can get. CrispyQ Oct 2021 #2
I would take a man with a soul over her any day. I'm a female mucifer Oct 2021 #3
It's good that they're doing this, Haggard Celine Oct 2021 #4
Will Sinema go into hiding now? KS Toronado Oct 2021 #5
Sinema follows a pattern Casady1 Oct 2021 #6
This - not a psychiatrist JustAnotherGen Oct 2021 #15
I have always noticed Casady1 Oct 2021 #33
She dresses like trash. For a United States Senator. calimary Oct 2021 #50
Do you think for one second Casady1 Oct 2021 #52
Of course not. calimary Oct 2021 #55
Not in her mind Casady1 Oct 2021 #56
Yet another reason, out of many, that she doesn't belong in the United States Senate. calimary Oct 2021 #57
Wow! More AZ voters need to call her out. Nt spooky3 Oct 2021 #7
I did! nt LittleGirl Oct 2021 #22
:-) spooky3 Oct 2021 #26
I don't Rebl2 Oct 2021 #30
I did MONTHS AGO AZ8theist Oct 2021 #44
No Senator should get a pass due to gender or race DFW Oct 2021 #8
+ 1 pazzyanne Oct 2021 #12
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Oct 2021 #13
they are the quintessential NJCher Oct 2021 #18
That's exactly right. FoxNewsSucks Oct 2021 #40
True daughter of the confederacy fwdthinkingdem Oct 2021 #9
More like a true attention seeking opportunist PatSeg Oct 2021 #14
She's no "centrist." She's a RW stealth hack... Wounded Bear Oct 2021 #10
Painting her as a centrist fills the narrative that she is taking a principled, well thought out AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #16
☝️ Walleye Oct 2021 #46
Yep, that damned "liberal" media again... SergeStorms Oct 2021 #51
Where's the center? fwdthinkingdem Oct 2021 #45
She's one of two Democrats opposing Biden's infrastructure plan in the Senate. What's Centrist jalan48 Oct 2021 #17
I agree with you! Rebl2 Oct 2021 #31
We can do better than Sinema. jalan48 Oct 2021 #35
I'm happy to hear this NJCher Oct 2021 #19
Paywall !!! Not everyone has the money to buy subscriptions to key news sources. usaf-vet Oct 2021 #20
Here you go... ZenDem Oct 2021 #23
Thank you for your effort and information! usaf-vet Oct 2021 #27
I still believe that she and Manchin are the rethuglicons bluestarone Oct 2021 #21
That's reality, not just a belief. FoxNewsSucks Oct 2021 #41
I somewhat fear you're right. BUT bluestarone Oct 2021 #42
She seems to BE entitled... became a public figure so she could make herself YoshidaYui Oct 2021 #24
"We shouldn't have to buy representation from you." Brilliant and concise. Mister Ed Oct 2021 #25
SHE IS NOT A CENTRIST! 2naSalit Oct 2021 #28
+1! BeckyDem Oct 2021 #32
Yes,that is an insult to serious lawmakers Walleye Oct 2021 #47
A living breathing Corgigal Oct 2021 #29
... markie Oct 2021 #34
"We shouldn't have to buy representation from you.....". What a crazy concept!! nt Carlitos Brigante Oct 2021 #36
She Does Not Care About Re-election Marigold Oct 2021 #37
She's not serious at all about reelection, but she's raising money all the time Walleye Oct 2021 #48
Sen. Krysten Unserious. oasis Oct 2021 #38
Like she gives a damn. sakabatou Oct 2021 #39
Well? Isn't that EXACTLY what she is? calimary Oct 2021 #43
I continue to object to the terms "centrist" or "moderate" being applied to Sinema and Manchin JHB Oct 2021 #49
i wonder what happened to her Lithos Oct 2021 #53
Lobbyists. 🤑 BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2021 #54
Sinema and Manchin are not "centrists" they are obstructionists jcgoldie Oct 2021 #58

CrispyQ

(36,454 posts)
2. She's gonna milk her one term for all she can get.
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 09:43 AM
Oct 2021

I'm always excited when women get elected to Congress, especially young women, but what a disappointment she is.

Haggard Celine

(16,844 posts)
4. It's good that they're doing this,
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 09:56 AM
Oct 2021

but I seriously doubt it will change anything. People have done a variety of things to get her to listen to the voters in her state and the rest of her fellow Democrats, but she appears to be unmoved. If she votes for the finished product of these bills, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

 

Casady1

(2,133 posts)
6. Sinema follows a pattern
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 10:17 AM
Oct 2021

that I have observed for some time. The most "radical" on the left quite often become radical on the right. She was a green and now she is becoming a hard core right winger. I believe it is because they have no real core beliefs. It is to make them be in the headlines.
I do not believe she will become a republican. That would make her yesterday's news and this narcissist could not stand to be yesterday's news.

JustAnotherGen

(31,809 posts)
15. This - not a psychiatrist
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 10:51 AM
Oct 2021

Just play one on DU -

There's something 'off' about her. I've been in telecom/big data at the leadership level for years . . . She's the typical Peter Principle Narcissist.

 

Casady1

(2,133 posts)
33. I have always noticed
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 12:14 PM
Oct 2021

the most radical have no core. Lok at how she dresses. Purely unprofessional for a professional position. She dresses like she is going out clubbing at the age of 25. Secondly, when she curtsied for the vote on minimum wage. What a showboat.

calimary

(81,207 posts)
50. She dresses like trash. For a United States Senator.
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 06:47 PM
Oct 2021

How does one dress like that and expect to be taken seriously, professionally-speaking? Has she never read any of those “dress for success” books? MAN, I sure did, back in the 70’s when women in general were breaking in or trying to break in.

Those black furry dingle-ball earrings alone are incredibly bad taste. Okay for a kindergarten teacher’s aid on Halloween Day. But this is the freakin’ United States Senate!

She has NO ONE advising her on subtle details like this? Little NOTHINGS that actually qualify as “the mouse that roared”. She really is a one-woman clown car.

 

Casady1

(2,133 posts)
52. Do you think for one second
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 07:58 PM
Oct 2021

she asks anyone for advise or would actually listen to anyone. She was valedictorian and thinks she is smarter that everyone.

 

Casady1

(2,133 posts)
56. Not in her mind
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 11:34 AM
Oct 2021

I think how she dresses is the biggest example of her mindset. It is a window into her thought process and her image of herself. Somehow she thinks dressing like this makes her attractive. The first thing I would say to her is the most pathetic thing about a person is trying to dress like you are 25 and you are 45. Why not wear a miniskirt? I would then answer for her that dressing like you are 25 when you are 45 makes me come close to puking.

calimary

(81,207 posts)
57. Yet another reason, out of many, that she doesn't belong in the United States Senate.
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 11:44 AM
Oct 2021

A kindergarten teacher’s aide, yes. The kids might like her cutesy style. Might make them feel comfortable and promote a relaxed, happy, playful, fun atmosphere. But the U. S. Senate is NOT a kindergarten (although sometimes you might mistake it for one).

DFW

(54,338 posts)
8. No Senator should get a pass due to gender or race
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 10:33 AM
Oct 2021

Sinema and Collins deserve no special consideration for being women, and Tim Scott is not a more "reasonable" Republican because he is black. Their actions and their voting records are what should speak for them, and not some footnote in their CV.

pazzyanne

(6,547 posts)
12. + 1
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 10:39 AM
Oct 2021

Excellently said, DFW. As a woman, and compassionate human being, I couldn't agree more with you!

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
40. That's exactly right.
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 02:24 PM
Oct 2021

And it should apply to all, not just Senators.

THeir actions will destroy our future, and soon. They should be held accountable.

PatSeg

(47,390 posts)
14. More like a true attention seeking opportunist
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 10:42 AM
Oct 2021

She is doing what is best for her and using public office to achieve her own personal objectives.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,680 posts)
16. Painting her as a centrist fills the narrative that she is taking a principled, well thought out
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 10:52 AM
Oct 2021

stand against those nefarious progressives and their unreasonable agenda.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
51. Yep, that damned "liberal" media again...
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 07:09 PM
Oct 2021

always trying to make both sides appear fair and equal.

If Sinema is a "centist" Democrat, TFG is a decent human being.

jalan48

(13,856 posts)
17. She's one of two Democrats opposing Biden's infrastructure plan in the Senate. What's Centrist
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 10:57 AM
Oct 2021

about her? Radical conservative is more like it.

NJCher

(35,650 posts)
19. I'm happy to hear this
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 11:03 AM
Oct 2021

Even though there are plenty of posts on this thread saying it doesn't matter and it won't concern her, one thing remains:

it has been put in black and white for all to see that she is a sell-out and not doing the job for which she was elected.

Personally I don't care whether the ad bothers her or not. It would be nice if it made a difference but, hey, she is "under contract" to her big donors, so what can we expect?

Long after she is gone from her position, the letter in that ad will remain as a testament to the sellout she is.

ZenDem

(442 posts)
23. Here you go...
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 11:17 AM
Oct 2021
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/veterans-quit-sinema-advisory-council-protest_n_61716abee4b066de4f5f0e30|

A lot of people have subscriptions to sites with Paywalls. They likely forget that not everyone else does. Most of the time, I can gather what info I need from the "4 paragraphs". If not, I do a quick Google search and can normally find a 'free' source for the same info.

bluestarone

(16,900 posts)
21. I still believe that she and Manchin are the rethuglicons
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 11:11 AM
Oct 2021

PLAN B! IF they knew for sure that these two would absolutely vote in our favor we wouldn't be having this problem today! (MY thoughts only)

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
41. That's reality, not just a belief.
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 02:28 PM
Oct 2021

Remember last January, Moscow Mitch refused to turn control of the Senate beacuse Shumer wouldn't agree to leave the filibuster as-is.

He turned control over ONLY after Manchin assured Moscow Mitch that he had Mitch's back.

I don't even think she and Manchin are "plan B", I think they're part of plan A, because unless they change, republicons will get the House and Senate back next year, and the presidency after that.

They'll keep it this time, thanks to the voter suppression laws and gerrymandering.

bluestarone

(16,900 posts)
42. I somewhat fear you're right. BUT
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 02:35 PM
Oct 2021

I really really hope you ARE NOT! It's so IMPORTANT to vote in people that you can TRUST! THIS did not happen in West Virginia or Arizona! We need to get a lot smarter i guess!

YoshidaYui

(41,831 posts)
24. She seems to BE entitled... became a public figure so she could make herself
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 11:24 AM
Oct 2021

Rich and hang with the Rich. She is no DEMOCRAT.

Mister Ed

(5,928 posts)
25. "We shouldn't have to buy representation from you." Brilliant and concise.
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 11:28 AM
Oct 2021

That should become the rallying cry of voters everywhere, and not just in AZ. It pretty much sums up the main problem with our government

Marigold

(29 posts)
37. She Does Not Care About Re-election
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 01:06 PM
Oct 2021

I don't think she really cares about re-election. She has positioned herself like many former representatives and government employees, to go on to work for the corporations they supposedly monitor, regulate or hold accountable. I have no doubt she sees her future at big Pharma or elsewhere. Undoubtedly she is smart, but as some have mentioned, perhaps suffers from some type of narcissism. When reading about her past, she overcame some horrific childhood events, and went on to overcome them. It appears she holds herself as special and unique. But although she likens herself to John McCain, her opposition seems to come solely from attention seeking. I also read that she does not like being told what to do. She is a chameleon, at one time being a social worker, a Ralph Nader supporter, and part of the Green Party. Now a corporate toady. This is just a new iteration of an evolving narcissist who got a taste of money and power.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
49. I continue to object to the terms "centrist" or "moderate" being applied to Sinema and Manchin
Thu Oct 21, 2021, 06:43 PM
Oct 2021

Just because the Republicans have leapt off the deep end to the Right does not make rightward opposition among the Democrats "center" or "moderate".

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
58. Sinema and Manchin are not "centrists" they are obstructionists
Fri Oct 22, 2021, 12:45 PM
Oct 2021

Their goal is the GOP agenda which is for Democrats to get nothing accomplished in the short term and government to fail in the big picture. If they were principled centrists then they would have counterproposals and negotiate towards compromise. But if you do that then you risk someone actually accepting your proposal and then your rich donor class may be taxed or regulated.

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