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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 02:45 AM

jcmaine72 (1,745 posts)

Ohio Bank Robber Wanted for 50 Years ID'd as Mass. Man

Source: NBC News Channel 10 Boston NBCLX

Ted Conrad has been one of America’s most wanted men for the last fifty years

An Ohio cold case that puzzled investigators for more than 50 years has finally been solved in Massachusetts.

On July 11, 1969, a 20-year-old man vanished after stealing $250,000 from a bank in Cleveland. The man walked out of the bank with the money in a paper bag, and it took bank employees two days to realize what had happened. By then, the bank robber was long gone, having created a mystery that would take five decades to solve.

Ted Conrad has been one of America's most wanted men since he committed the crime in 1969 while an employee at the Society National Bank in Cleveland.

Read more: https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/52-year-old-cleveland-bank-robbery-mystery-comes-to-an-end-in-mass/2565366/


Wow! 52 years! Imagine living with a secret like that for five decades? I'll admit I would've cracked under such a burden, especially after assuming a fake name and getting married. Now, you're involving someone else in your lies and deception. It would just be too much for me to handle.

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Reply Ohio Bank Robber Wanted for 50 Years ID'd as Mass. Man (Original post)
 jcmaine72 Nov 2021 OP
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 Name removed Nov 2021 #1
LineLineReply My sentiments too
 WestIndianArchie Nov 2021 #4
LineLineReply If all your money is fake, give it to me. If you don't give it all away, your logic is fake. . . nt
 Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #7
LineLineLineReply Post of the day!
 oldsoftie Nov 2021 #12
LineLineLineReply Give me your useless money
 keithbvadu2 Nov 2021 #19
LineLineLineLineReply Your toon should have had 7QQ club written on his stand.
 KS Toronado Nov 2021 #23
LineLineLineLineLineReply How to tell if the 'end times' preachers are genuine:
 keithbvadu2 Nov 2021 #25
LineLineLineReply Post removed
 Post removed Nov 2021 #26
LineLineLineLineReply No personal attacks, please. Welcome to DU, I think. Read the Terms of Service at bottom of page. nt
 Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #27
LineLineReply Hard to work up an atta boy about this, how did the Marshals spend on this?
 marble falls Nov 2021 #21
LineLineReply "victimless crime for 50 years. Who fucking cares?"... the Insurance company. Then again
 mitch96 Nov 2021 #22
LineLineReply Yeah, I have to agree
 PatSeg Nov 2021 #24
LineReply Seems kind of ironic
 catchnrelease Nov 2021 #2
LineLineReply He must've been as good a businessman as Trump.
 oldsoftie Nov 2021 #13
LineLineReply Bad money management
 Dopers_Greed Nov 2021 #30
LineLineReply Who the heck has the same signature 50 years later?
 Polybius Nov 2021 #36
LineReply Talk about inflation ! (from another link)
 left-of-center2012 Nov 2021 #3
LineLineNew Reply That's an average of 4% over the 52 years (nt)
 muriel_volestrangler Nov 2021 #40
LineReply Investigators from Cleveland say they were able to identify Conrad by matching documents he signed i
 Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #5
LineReply Did the statute of limitations apply?
 nuxvomica Nov 2021 #6
LineLineReply It just does, by well-established law. It's like law establishes your time; it just does. . . nt
 Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #8
LineLineReply Statute of limitations does apply,
 RepublicParty_Stank Nov 2021 #11
LineLineLineReply I think for things like this, 52 years is more than enough
 Polybius Nov 2021 #37
LineLineLineNew Reply I see. It would only apply if he wasn't charged
 nuxvomica Nov 2021 #39
LineLineReply Pretty much nixed the Statute of Limitations. He's dead. His Obituary
 Fla Dem Nov 2021 #34
LineReply Thanks. I've been hearing about this on WBZ overnight. NT
 mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2021 #9
LineReply Gotta be more to the story.
 OneBro Nov 2021 #10
LineLineReply The whole case is not going to hang on that one fact. Duh. Of course there is more.
 Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #18
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 Name removed Nov 2021 #28
LineLineLineReply Your kind way of agreeing that . . .
 OneBro Nov 2021 #31
LineLineLineNew Reply Court? What court?
 muriel_volestrangler Nov 2021 #41
LineLineLineLineNew Reply And it turns out he's dead. . . . nt
 Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #42
LineLineLineNew Reply he's passed away, there won't be a trial
 imavoter Nov 2021 #44
LineLineReply He admitted to the crime on his deathbed. . . . nt
 Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #20
LineLineLineReply Ah. Now THAT makes sense.
 OneBro Nov 2021 #32
LineLineLineLineReply Even deathbed "confessions" have to be checked in case it is meant to shield somebody else
 Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #33
LineReply His obituary
 Klaralven Nov 2021 #14
LineReply He wins the "Die Broke" Sweepstakes
 bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #15
LineLineNew Reply there are lots of forms of bk.....
 getagrip_already Nov 2021 #38
LineReply From the Cleveland Plain Dealer:
 mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2021 #16
LineReply Many years ago in the town where I live
 twodogsbarking Nov 2021 #17
LineReply Just why?????
 Farmer-Rick Nov 2021 #29
LineLineNew Reply Not a 50 year search, and $10,000 is not $10,000. But it wasn't $10,000.
 Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #46
LineLineLineNew Reply I was alive in 1969 and I can tell you
 Farmer-Rick Nov 2021 #47
LineReply Wow, he just died in May
 Polybius Nov 2021 #35
LineNew Reply Federal bank robbery statute of limitations: 5 years. Ohio robbery SoL: 20 years. He's clean? n/t
 TygrBright Nov 2021 #43
LineNew Reply I swindled a bank for a nice sum back in the early 1980ies ....
 TomWilm Nov 2021 #45

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 05:13 AM

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4. My sentiments too

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 06:44 AM

Bernardo de La Paz (45,600 posts)

7. If all your money is fake, give it to me. If you don't give it all away, your logic is fake. . . nt

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 08:16 AM

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12. Post of the day!

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:12 AM

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19. Give me your useless money

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:45 AM

Star Member KS Toronado (13,072 posts)

23. Your toon should have had 7QQ club written on his stand.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 10:06 AM

keithbvadu2 (31,857 posts)

25. How to tell if the 'end times' preachers are genuine:

How to tell if the 'end times' preachers are genuine:

Are they accumulating wealth?

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 10:11 AM

Bernardo de La Paz (45,600 posts)

27. No personal attacks, please. Welcome to DU, I think. Read the Terms of Service at bottom of page. nt

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:16 AM

Star Member marble falls (49,255 posts)

21. Hard to work up an atta boy about this, how did the Marshals spend on this?

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:18 AM

Star Member mitch96 (12,258 posts)

22. "victimless crime for 50 years. Who fucking cares?"... the Insurance company. Then again

they just raise their rates and move on..
m

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:58 AM

Star Member PatSeg (45,305 posts)

24. Yeah, I have to agree

Sounds like a waste of resources over a crime no one even cares about anymore. AND the perpetrator has died!

Welcome to DU!

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 03:25 AM

catchnrelease (1,887 posts)

2. Seems kind of ironic

Per the article he was found out because of bankruptcy documents he'd signed!

"Investigators from Cleveland say they were able to identify Conrad by matching documents he signed in the 60s to more recent court paperwork from a 2014 bankruptcy case, determining they were the same person."

Of course the money wouldn't necessarily last 50yrs, but makes me wonder how he ended up bankrupt.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 08:17 AM

oldsoftie (10,971 posts)

13. He must've been as good a businessman as Trump.

To start off with almost $2M and go broke?

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 11:10 AM

Dopers_Greed (2,634 posts)

30. Bad money management

If he would have invested even a chunk of that money, he'd have been set for life.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 02:26 PM

Star Member Polybius (12,730 posts)

36. Who the heck has the same signature 50 years later?

I'm in my 40's and my sig looks completely different than when I was 20.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 03:55 AM

Star Member left-of-center2012 (34,195 posts)

3. Talk about inflation ! (from another link)

"John Conrad walked into his job as a bank teller at the Society National Bank in Cleveland and
walked out with $215,000 — the equivalent of $1.7 million today"

https://whdh.com/news/bank-robber-wanted-in-connection-with-historic-ohio-heist-found-in-lynnfield-more-than-50-years-later/

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 04:12 PM

muriel_volestrangler (99,496 posts)

40. That's an average of 4% over the 52 years (nt)

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 05:22 AM

Star Member Demovictory9 (29,934 posts)

5. Investigators from Cleveland say they were able to identify Conrad by matching documents he signed i

Investigators from Cleveland say they were able to identify Conrad by matching documents he signed in the 60s to more recent court paperwork from a 2014 bankruptcy case, determining they were the same person.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 05:23 AM

Star Member nuxvomica (11,592 posts)

6. Did the statute of limitations apply?

If he were alive would he have avoided arrest anyway?

Found the answer:
A federal grand jury indicted Conrad for embezzling and falsifying bank records in December 1969. That stopped the clock on the statute of limitations, Edwards said. Conrad faces about 10 years on each charge.

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2008/01/theodore_john_conrad_the_fbi_h.html

I don't know how that "stopped the clock" though.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 06:46 AM

Bernardo de La Paz (45,600 posts)

8. It just does, by well-established law. It's like law establishes your time; it just does. . . nt

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 07:47 AM

RepublicParty_Stank (22 posts)

11. Statute of limitations does apply,

in that he was indicted many years before the s.o.l. expired. But the case doesn’t have to be resolved within that time.

Being a fugitive from justice doesn’t prevent him from being held to account when he is found. If that were the case, charged/indicted criminals would be highly incentivized to flee, and I’d imagine judges would be extremely reluctant to grant bail in any case where a statute of limitations applied.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 02:30 PM

Star Member Polybius (12,730 posts)

37. I think for things like this, 52 years is more than enough

For murder, up the SoL to 70 years.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 04:07 PM

Star Member nuxvomica (11,592 posts)

39. I see. It would only apply if he wasn't charged

The statute of limitations applies to how much time passes before the suspect is charged, not to how long before the suspect is caught. That's what I wasn't clear on. If the suspect leaves enough evidence for a grand jury to indict them by name, the clock stops. In a recent episode of the CBS series "Ghosts", only one of two bank robbers was identified, and she was killed by a bear soon thereafter. The other one took the money and started a business. Fifty years later, the business owner doesn't object to the story going public because the statute of limitations has passed.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 11:59 AM

Star Member Fla Dem (21,343 posts)

34. Pretty much nixed the Statute of Limitations. He's dead. His Obituary

http://hosting-6792.tributes.com/obituary/show/Thomas-Randele-108518750

Thomas Randele, age 73, of Lynnfield died Tuesday, May 18 at his home surrounded by his loving family.

Born in Denver, Colorado on July 10, 1947 he was the son of the late Edward and Ruthabeth (Krueger) Randele.

"Tom" was raised and educated in Colorado before moving to the east coast and attending New England College. Tom then split his time between Florida and Boston, where he was the Assistant Golf Pro and Teaching Pro at Pembroke Country Club. In the off season he played on the professional winter tour in Florida, eventually transitioning to Manager of Pembroke Country Club full time. He eventually shifted his vocational interests from golf to his second love, cars and began a successful career in luxury automotive sales which spanned nearly 40 years. He had worked at Woburn Foreign Motors, Range Rover, and Volvo until his retirement. He was also an excellent cook who loved watching any and all cooking shows, and enjoyed testing out new recipes on his wife and daughter, always asking "So, can I make this again?" at the end of every meal.

Tom leaves behind his beloved wife, Kathy (Mahan) Randele and his cherished daughter, Ashley Randele. He is also survived by his brother-in-law Richard Mahan of Swampscott as well as many extended family members and friends.

A memorial service for Tom will be held at the McDonald Funeral Home, 19 Yale Ave., Wakefield on Tuesday, May 25 at 11am. Visitation for relatives and friends will be held prior to the service beginning at 10am.



It shows his parents name as Randele, not Conrad which is his legitimate name. That's because they don't exist, they were Edward and Ruthabeth Conrad.

https://www.cleveland.com/crime/2021/11/mystery-solved-theodore-conrad-vanished-after-robbing-cleveland-bank-where-he-worked-in-1969-marshals-traced-him-to-boston-suburb.html


Theodore Conrad’s years in Cleveland were unassuming. He was born in Denver, the son of a Navy officer who moved his family around the country. When Edward and Ruthabeth Conrad divorced in 1958, their son Ted settled in Lakewood with his mother and sister, according to the marshals’ files. His mother remarried, and the family lived on Bonnieview Avenue on the city’s West Side.

After graduating from Lakewood High, he went off to New England College, where his father taught political science. He became freshman class president. But after his first semester, he was back in Cleveland. He later attended classes at Cuyahoga Community College.

In January 1969, he went to work at Society National Bank on Public Square. The job required Conrad to work in the bank vault. When tellers and branches needed more cash, Conrad packaged and delivered it. He had access to hundreds of thousands of dollars a day, records show.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 07:40 AM

Star Member mahatmakanejeeves (52,133 posts)

9. Thanks. I've been hearing about this on WBZ overnight. NT

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 07:43 AM

OneBro (1,154 posts)

10. Gotta be more to the story.

Matching something he signed in the 60s to something he signed in 2014 to determine it was the same person? Hogwash.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:09 AM

Bernardo de La Paz (45,600 posts)

18. The whole case is not going to hang on that one fact. Duh. Of course there is more.


That was just the clincher.

Just because YOU didn't hear the rest of the case (yet to come out in court) doesn't make it "HOGWASH".

The prosecution is only obliged to give the rest of the case to the defense when one is mounted and they ask for it.

They are under no obligation to tell YOU (or the social media sphere).

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 11:20 AM

OneBro (1,154 posts)

31. Your kind way of agreeing that . . .

. . . there’s more to the story.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 04:16 PM

muriel_volestrangler (99,496 posts)

41. Court? What court?

If he went bankrupt in 2014, it's not as if there's an estate to recover significant money from.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 04:23 PM

Bernardo de La Paz (45,600 posts)

42. And it turns out he's dead. . . . nt

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 08:48 PM

Star Member imavoter (566 posts)

44. he's passed away, there won't be a trial

what happened to the money, and how did he get away with it?

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:14 AM

Bernardo de La Paz (45,600 posts)

20. He admitted to the crime on his deathbed. . . . nt

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 11:25 AM

OneBro (1,154 posts)

32. Ah. Now THAT makes sense.

Odd that the linked story omitted that little detail.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 11:27 AM

Bernardo de La Paz (45,600 posts)

33. Even deathbed "confessions" have to be checked in case it is meant to shield somebody else


His handwriting was the clincher.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 08:18 AM

Klaralven (7,510 posts)

14. His obituary

 

July 10, 1947 - May 18, 2021
Lynnfield, Massachusetts | Age 73

Thomas Randele, age 73, of Lynnfield died Tuesday, May 18 at his home surrounded by his loving family.

Born in Denver, Colorado on July 10, 1947 he was the son of the late Edward and Ruthabeth (Krueger) Randele.

"Tom" was raised and educated in Colorado before moving to the east coast and attending New England College. Tom then split his time between Florida and Boston, where he was the Assistant Golf Pro and Teaching Pro at Pembroke Country Club. In the off season he played on the professional winter tour in Florida, eventually transitioning to Manager of Pembroke Country Club full time. He eventually shifted his vocational interests from golf to his second love, cars and began a successful career in luxury automotive sales which spanned nearly 40 years. He had worked at Woburn Foreign Motors, Range Rover, and Volvo until his retirement. He was also an excellent cook who loved watching any and all cooking shows, and enjoyed testing out new recipes on his wife and daughter, always asking "So, can I make this again?" at the end of every meal.

Tom leaves behind his beloved wife, Kathy (Mahan) Randele and his cherished daughter, Ashley Randele. He is also survived by his brother-in-law Richard Mahan of Swampscott as well as many extended family members and friends.

A memorial service for Tom will be held at the McDonald Funeral Home, 19 Yale Ave., Wakefield on Tuesday, May 25 at 11am. Visitation for relatives and friends will be held prior to the service beginning at 10am.

http://hosting-6792.tributes.com/obituary/show/Thomas-Randele-108518750

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 08:20 AM

bucolic_frolic (37,144 posts)

15. He wins the "Die Broke" Sweepstakes

50 years, he died earlier this year, and involved in a bankruptcy case recently. They didn't say it was his own. But there it is ... he walked off with it, lived all that time, never got caught, and apparently went BK so had spent everything.

Die Broke ... Die in Debt ... Die Bankrupt ... He with the most toys wins!

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 03:44 PM

getagrip_already (10,647 posts)

38. there are lots of forms of bk.....

The article doesn't say if it was business or personal. He could have just liquidated a business and declared bk on that entity.

He could still have had wealth.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 08:29 AM

Star Member mahatmakanejeeves (52,133 posts)

16. From the Cleveland Plain Dealer:

Crime

Mystery solved: Theodore Conrad vanished after robbing Cleveland bank where he worked in 1969; marshals traced him to Boston suburb

Updated: Nov. 12, 2021, 3:53 p.m. | Published: Nov. 12, 2021, 11:21 a.m.

By John Caniglia, cleveland.com

CLEVELAND, Ohio – Fifty-two years ago, a young teller left his job at Society National Bank on Public Square with $215,000 in stolen cash. Within hours, he vanished.

Theodore Conrad, just 20, had pulled off one of the biggest bank heists in Cleveland history. His disappearance became one of the city’s greatest mysteries.

Federal agents from across the country tried to track down the graduate of Lakewood High School, class of 1967. Some believed he had bolted for the beaches of California, hoping to ride waves and escape Cleveland winters. Others thought he had settled in Europe. The missing cash, adjusted for inflation, would be worth about $1.7 million today.

On Friday, U.S. Marshal Peter Elliott said his office solved the mystery his father, John, had investigated decades ago: Theodore Conrad died in a suburb north of Boston in May. He was 71.

He had changed his name, and became known to many as Thomas Randele. He also changed his lifestyle and the details of his past.

He had a family, became a local golf pro and sold luxury cars. He was a fixture in a small town. The stolen money didn’t last, as he had struggled financially in recent years, records show.

In his final days, as lung cancer drained him, he admitted to his lifelong secret.

{snip}

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:02 AM

twodogsbarking (6,445 posts)

17. Many years ago in the town where I live

a local bank moved it's money from branch offices to the main office at 5 am. While delivering it to the back door
of the bank a jogger in a grey sweat suit pulled a pistol (possibly a toy) and took an undisclosed
amount. I heard it was $ 125k. He was never found. There are hundreds of apartments in the vicinity
and grey sweat suits were the norm. It was around 1976 so that was a chunk of change.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 11:00 AM

Star Member Farmer-Rick (8,776 posts)

29. Just why?????

So what? He stole money from an insured bank.

How many hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars were wasted on hunting him for 50 years? I bet if he stole $10,000 from a middle class person, the cops and prosecutors would let the clock run out.

Cops and detectives are really bad at their jobs. Only about 15% of theft crimes are ever cleared. So, why a 50 year search for this guy? Seems it rankled somebody.

Glad he had a half decent life at the expense of a bank and insurance company.

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Sun Nov 14, 2021, 06:05 AM

Bernardo de La Paz (45,600 posts)

46. Not a 50 year search, and $10,000 is not $10,000. But it wasn't $10,000.

It was not a 50 year search. More like a usual search that gives up after a month or two.

Then 50 years later, he confesses on his deathbed and dies. At that point, the police are involved again to check his story to close the case.

Since the statute of limitations period had expired it was effectively closed long ago.

So, no, not a 50 year search.


Back then $10,000 bought a lot more, like more car and house. Adjusted for inflation, it is more than $73,000 today.

The average car cost $3,400 in 1969.
The average car cost $41,000 in 2021. So the $10,000 would be $120,000 today.



But it was $250,000. Back then. In 1969.

That would be $3,000,000 today.

So, no, not $10,000 like you try to make it out like.

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Sun Nov 14, 2021, 11:52 AM

Star Member Farmer-Rick (8,776 posts)

47. I was alive in 1969 and I can tell you

A theft from a middle class person would not have been of much import to the police or prosecutors, despite the inflationary adjustments.

And no, the statute of limitations was stopped. And did not apply in this case.

"A federal grand jury indicted Conrad for embezzling and falsifying bank records in December 1969. That stopped the clock on the statute of limitations, Edwards said. Conrad faces about 10 years on each charge."

He was listed as Americas most wanted, US Marshals were involved and it was an active federal investigation. So, yeah a lot of our tax dollars were wasted on this hunt.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 02:24 PM

Star Member Polybius (12,730 posts)

35. Wow, he just died in May

Wonder if he knew that the feds were onto him.

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Sat Nov 13, 2021, 08:05 PM

Star Member TygrBright (20,216 posts)

43. Federal bank robbery statute of limitations: 5 years. Ohio robbery SoL: 20 years. He's clean? n/t

Well, dead. But clean.

interestedly,
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Sun Nov 14, 2021, 01:01 AM

TomWilm (1,783 posts)

45. I swindled a bank for a nice sum back in the early 1980ies ....

They found out, but I was never charged or paid them back . I think they were embarrassed of their bad security systems. I had lost my house in the economic crisis, and needed a fresh start!

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