Wed Dec 8, 2021, 04:05 PM
Omaha Steve (85,645 posts)
California plans to be abortion sanctuary if Roe overturned
Source: AP
By ADAM BEAM SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — With more than two dozen states poised to ban abortion if the U.S. Supreme Court gives them the OK next year, California clinics and their allies in the state Legislature on Wednesday revealed a plan to make the state a “sanctuary” for those seeking reproductive care, including possibly paying for travel, lodging and procedures for people from other states. The California Future of Abortion Council, made up of more than 40 abortion providers and advocacy groups, released a list of 45 recommendations for the state to consider if the high court overturns Roe v. Wade — the 48-year-old decision that forbids states from outlawing abortion. The recommendations are not just a liberal fantasy. Some of the state’s most important policymakers helped write them, including Toni Atkins, the San Diego Democrat who leads the state Senate and attended multiple meetings. Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom started the group himself and in an interview last week with The Associated Press said some of the report’s details will be included in his budget proposal in January. ![]() FILE - People rally in support of abortion rights at the state Capitol in Sacramento, Calif., May 21, 2019. On Wednesday Dec. 8, 2021, a group of abortion providers and advocacy groups recommended California should use public money to bring people here from other states for abortion services should the U.S. Supreme Court overturn Roe v. Wade. The report has the backing of key legislative leaders, including Senate President Pro Team Toni Atkins, a Democrat. (AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli, File) Read more: https://apnews.com/article/abortion-california-sanctuary-625a118108bcda253196697c83548d5b
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Author | Time | Post |
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Omaha Steve | Dec 2021 | OP |
musette_sf | Dec 2021 | #1 | |
RayStar | Dec 2021 | #2 | |
mopinko | Dec 2021 | #3 | |
murielm99 | Dec 2021 | #9 | |
yellowdogintexas | Dec 2021 | #10 | |
ShazzieB | Dec 2021 | #15 | |
mopinko | Dec 2021 | #20 | |
PortTack | Dec 2021 | #12 | |
dutch777 | Dec 2021 | #4 | |
Gregory Peccary | Dec 2021 | #5 | |
Hortensis | Dec 2021 | #6 | |
Lovie777 | Dec 2021 | #7 | |
bucolic_frolic | Dec 2021 | #8 | |
bluestarone | Dec 2021 | #11 | |
WhiskeyGrinder | Dec 2021 | #19 | |
LiberatedUSA | Dec 2021 | #13 | |
PlanetBev | Dec 2021 | #14 | |
ShazzieB | Dec 2021 | #17 | |
PlanetBev | Dec 2021 | #22 | |
Skittles | Dec 2021 | #16 | |
Karma13612 | Dec 2021 | #21 | |
paleotn | Dec 2021 | #18 | |
roamer65 | Dec 2021 | #23 |
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 04:10 PM
musette_sf (9,628 posts)
1. K. To. The. R.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 04:19 PM
RayStar (385 posts)
2. Thank you
This is very good news.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 04:19 PM
mopinko (62,867 posts)
3. illinois will do the same. we already have a trigger law if rowe falls, making it law here.
one of the reasons we didnt close a bridge from missouri, which was talked about last year, was that planned parenthood had just opened a huge clinic right over the bridge.
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Response to mopinko (Reply #3)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 05:14 PM
murielm99 (28,773 posts)
9. You beat me to it. n/t
Response to mopinko (Reply #3)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 05:17 PM
yellowdogintexas (19,118 posts)
10. Didn't New York State also do this?
This is totally a throwback to the pre-Roe world.
If you could afford it, you were on a plane to California, Illinois, NY and a couple of other places that I can't remember. WA and OR maybe, or HI? I know people who did that |
Response to yellowdogintexas (Reply #10)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 06:32 PM
ShazzieB (6,287 posts)
15. New York did this.
I'm not sure about any of the other places you mentioned, but abortion was illegal in Illinois until the Roe decision. I had to fly to New York myself to get a safe, legal abortion in September 1972. (Roe happened about 5 months later.) The clinic I used had so many out of state patients flying in that they actually ran a shuttle service to and from the major airports.
Nowadays, it's a different matter. Illinois has already become an abortion haven for people inI neighboring states who need an abortion, and we fixed our trigger laws so that if Roe falls, it will still be legal here. |
Response to ShazzieB (Reply #15)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 07:09 PM
mopinko (62,867 posts)
20. back in the day a lot of women went to wisconsin.
funny now to think of wis as more liberal than il, but it sure used to be.
used to be a bus to a clinic over the border from my small town. |
Response to mopinko (Reply #3)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 05:23 PM
PortTack (25,311 posts)
12. Yes... I believe the law is now codified
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 04:21 PM
dutch777 (1,471 posts)
4. Nice thought on CA's part but what of women who can't afford to travel for an abortion?
My concern remains, whether state or federal action (or inaction) bans or severely restricts abortions, we'll just roll back to the bad old days that I grew up in where there were abortion purveyors, many not even medically trained, performing back alley procedures. And women suffered and died. Not to mention the stress, stigma, lack of support, legal consequences and all the rest that will go with that if they can't afford to go to CA but still want an abortion. On this issue alone, I am constantly amazed on the number of women who can support GOP candidates.
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Response to dutch777 (Reply #4)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 04:25 PM
Gregory Peccary (443 posts)
5. Per the article....
"including possibly paying for travel, lodging and procedures for people from other states."
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Response to dutch777 (Reply #4)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 04:32 PM
Hortensis (51,749 posts)
6. Donations will be appreciated.
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 04:32 PM
Lovie777 (4,021 posts)
7. Although I do not see the 6 assholes in the UC SC fully . .....
overturning Roe v Wade, but it will be extremely rough for 95% of the women in states that passes laws on shorten very shorter weeks concerning when a women can have an abortion, and the day after pill will not be legal (black markets will make a killing). Of course the well to do will have no problems, but the poor will have problems, plus many of those states have cut back Medicaid (Medi-Cal here in California). Therefor, besides no abortions, these women who are monetary struggling will have no healthcare to boot and since the GQP don't believe in entitlements for these struggling women and children -
It's just F-uped. The so called "Christian" RWers will be on California like white on rice. |
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 04:41 PM
bucolic_frolic (31,830 posts)
8. Pro-life pro-gun states might see a population decline
Not to mention brain drain, capital flight, and some business departures. Once you go down this rat hole, it's like a currency devaluation because it is a decrease in freedom and lifestyle. Third-world countries that have experienced inflation, currency valuation experience all those same solutions. You can only fool the public for so long. It just seems like eternity.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 05:21 PM
bluestarone (13,582 posts)
11. AWESOME plus
I would donate for ANYBODYS transportation if needed!
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Response to bluestarone (Reply #11)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 07:04 PM
WhiskeyGrinder (16,492 posts)
19. You can do so now by donating to any abortion fund.
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 05:53 PM
LiberatedUSA (1,530 posts)
13. Very good and expected.
The new Not-So-United States where the new Underground Railroad for women exists to get them from “pro life” states to Women’s Rights states.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 06:30 PM
PlanetBev (3,652 posts)
14. As a Californian, I am so happy to hear this!
I’ve been so worried about women in oppressive states. Can’t wait to donate! Excited to hear about different groups organizing across the country.
The Bear Republic….fighting Nazis! |
Response to PlanetBev (Reply #14)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 06:46 PM
ShazzieB (6,287 posts)
17. You might be interested in this.
The National Network of Abortion Funds maintains a database of organizations in each state that work to remove financial and logistical barriers to abortion access. Some of them work with clinics to help pay for abortions, while some of them offer support such as transportation, childcare, translation, doula services, and somewhere to stay for those who have to travel to get an abortion.
Those who want to support abortion access can donate directly to NNAF at their site or find information there about regional, state, and local organizations to donate to: https://abortionfunds.org/ |
Response to ShazzieB (Reply #17)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 09:14 PM
PlanetBev (3,652 posts)
22. Thanks for the info, Shazzie
Sounds like a great place to start.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 06:39 PM
Skittles (143,017 posts)
16. will women have bounties on them from all the fucked up states
crazy shit
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Response to Skittles (Reply #16)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 08:43 PM
Karma13612 (3,639 posts)
21. Yea, crazy Gilead-esque shit. Eom
Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 06:51 PM
paleotn (13,258 posts)
18. So are we.
A woman's right to chose is set in state law.
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 09:42 PM
roamer65 (31,272 posts)
23. Michigan AG Nessel said she will not enforce our pre-Roe law.
There is also talk here of a ballot proposal to put Roe into our state constitution.
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