Manchin chides Democrats over filibuster, saying he can't support 'such a perilous course'

[Polybius]

Source: The Hill

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) warned Democrats against trying to change the legislative filibuster and lamented the state of the Senate, hours before a months-long fight over Senate rules will come to a head.

Manchin went through a laundry list of reasons explaining why he supports the 60-vote threshold for most major legislation and argued that the pitch from his Democratic colleagues about wanting to restore the Senate is "simply not true."

"For the last year, my Democratic colleagues have taken to the Senate floor, cable news airwaves, pages of newspapers across the country, and to argue that repealing the filibuster is restoring the vision the founding fathers intended for this deliberate body. My friends, that is simply not true. It's not true," Manchin said.

Manchin added that his Democratic colleagues "would use the nuclear option to override a rule that we have used ourselves, but now seem to find unacceptable."

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[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. If anyone has put us on 'such a perilous course'...it would be him and others like him.

I am beyond exasperated. He has a lot of power these days, he knows it, and he's making hay while the sun shines.

[elleng]

2. ;-(

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

10. Manchin is a small man who has gotten power

for the first time in his political career. All he can do, however, is destroy things; he has contributed not a single suggestion on how to make the bill a law. In this he is more Republican than Democrat.

All he and Sinema can do is righteously declare how important voting is --even going so far as referencing MLK--and tweet pictures of themselves standing next to John Lewis (Sinema).

So many people died so others could vote; so many people marched to ensure the franchise was available to all citizens. Now, because of two intransigent senators who represent a tiny portion of the electorate, we're going to have to start the fight over.

"I can't believe I'm still having to protest this shit," said a sign held by an elderly woman. Sigh...

[greatauntoftriplets]

3. Tell that to the GQPers, Senator.

[OAITW r.2.0]

4. At heart, he is a Republican.

Better vetting, WV.

[Guilded Lilly]

5. Can we cut through the bull yet and tell Manchin to officially piss off?

[PoliticAverse]

13. No because nothing passes with only 49 Democratic votes. n/t

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

6. If Manchin were a member of the Continental Congress

we'd still be a British colony. There's no way he would have signed the Declaration of Independence.

As it is, between him and T****, democracy is going to end, and we're going to become a Russian state. All hail President Putin!

[AZLD4Candidate]

9. To quote the Musical 1776

"You and your Pennsylvania proprietors. You always to the rear of everything, so if the rest of us go down, you can remain afloat."

Manchin in a nutshell.

[AZLD4Candidate]

7. Unreal. This man is the type to punch someone, get punched back, then cry "look what you did to me"

He is a political Karen.

[Moebym]

14. Agreed. That is one of the hallmarks of an abusive, controlling individual.

[vercetti2021]

8. Jesus christ

Just STFU Yacht man! We know your game, we aren't fucking idiots. You are a shill, bar none. You are a corporate whore. End of story.

[SunSeeker]

11. No, Senator, it is what YOU are saying that is not true.

The founding fathers would never have approved of the filibuster, having warned against requiring action only by supermajority.

Plus, and most important, the Republicans of today are not the Republicans of yesterday. They now realize they can't win in a fair, democratic election, so they are dismantling democracy, one crazy voter-supressing state law at a time. That is why we need to end the filibuster so we can pass a law to protect voters from these laws, or we will lose our democracy.

Yes, it is "a rule that we have used ourselves, but now seem to find unacceptable." And the reason it is unacceptable is because it will destroy our democracy! Why is that so hard for you to understand?????

[PoliticAverse]

12. Anyone who wants to see his whole 17 minute presentation can see it here...

[Natal]

15. "Perilous"

Yeah. To your reelection, you spineless coward!

[True Blue American]

16. That BS used to work

When we had a decent Republican Party. It is impossible today with the corrupt leaders in that party. Lie, cheat, steal to win has become their motto.

[rpannier]

17. Says Joe Crow Manchin

He seems fine with non-whites having difficulty voting
What happened to your 10 Republicans you were certain you could get

[Botany]

18. All of what Joe is just lip flapping. His two real goals are:

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Protect the status quo and that protects the fossil fuel industries. And that might make him West VA first billionaire and
that will fuck the earth's environment and Joe knows that and doesn't give a shit.

Same with Sinema and her two real goals are:

Protect the status quo and that protects the pharmaceutical industries. And that will make Sinema a multimillionaire and
she will be given high paying do nothing jobs such as to be on the board of directors for some drug maker or as a "dean"
at some right wing college and she will live out her life in really expensive real estate with 24/7 security as a pariah as
her obvious mental illnesses overtake her.

[angry citizen]

21. Its always the money.

It always comes down to the money. He reminds me of Sen Nelson with the ACA.

[Botany]

23. From the movie Casino

Always the dollars. Always the fuckin' dollars.

[pwb]

19. Your voters put you in office to represent Democrats

and you vote the way you want? It's By The People? Not by the person Hoe.

[2naSalit]

20. Only those with lots of $$

And wealthier people backing them, only the wealthy are represented in government.

[Turbineguy]

22. One of two

of the republican party's favorite senators.

[yaesu]

24. To be fair, here are some good & realistic points Manchin makes against the "nuclear option"

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[Paladin]

25. Fuck you where you breathe, Manchin. (nt)

[Blue Owl]

26. Fuck him and his fucking filibuster

Twice on Sunday

[Taraman]

27. In the future history of the Fourth Reich, he will be remembered as one of its founders

[turbinetree]

28. &%$#@*(%%$#@!! Joe Manhcin.....and Kyrsten Sinema

here is a comparison of Jeff Merkley's speech when compared to your ( &^%$#@!(*&^) ing Joe Manchin speech.....

And as for the hypocrite from Arizona, that just basically said FU to the Native population when it comes to voting....5 days ago.....

[Corgigal]

29. Might be time,

to pull his financials. He’s being bought off somewhere,and hes not that good of an actor.
McConnell may have gotten to him early, before the two senators from Georgia were elected.

This man doesn’t have principles, but he s a wanna be rich guy. He’s bought and sold.

Investigation please.

[BlueIdaho]

30. Isn't it about time we let him sink back into the swamp he came from?

Enough already, his 15 minutes of fame are up. He did what he was ordered to do. Now it’s time to let him sink back into obscurity. There will be plenty of time to remind America about his hatred for Democracy when he runs for re-election.

[Moebym]

32. I agree.

Attention feeds his ego, and he has already proven himself to be unable to feel any sort of shame from having his ridiculous arguments be torn to shreds.

We need to ignore him and focus on GOTV and fighting the smaller battles.

[BlueIdaho]

35. Exactly Right

Any more time spent on that corporate whore is time wasted. Time to focus on what’s ahead.

[The Grand Illuminist]

31. Again, from his predecessor

[myohmy2]

33. what's perilous...

...is the course and trajectory we're on...we're heading headlong towards being a fascist state...

...he must not believe our democracy's in danger or our future's at risk...

...he doesn't respond to warnings...he doesn't respond to threats...he doesn't respond to cajoling... he doesn't respond to reason...he doesn't respond to friendship...he doesn't respond to the intent of our Constitution...

...what does he respond to?

...everyone will respond to something, everyone has a price...

...we have to find out what it is before it's too late...

...he's being very short-sighted or worse...

[Zeitghost]

34. He's a brave and wise man

It takes guts to stand up for what is right and set aside the short sighted members of his party who wish to endanger the future for a gains in the present.