Kyle Rittenhouse named in civil suit filed by parents of man killed in Kenosha

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Source: Washington Post

Kyle Rittenhouse has been added as a defendant to a civil lawsuit filed by the parents of Anthony Huber, a Wisconsin man Rittenhouse fatally shot in Kenosha during street protests in August 2020.

In a criminal trial last November, Rittenhouse was found not guilty of five charges related to killing Huber and Joseph Rosenbaum and injuring Gaige Grosskreutz with an AR-15-style rifle. A civil trial could replay evidence against the 18-year-old before a jury, in addition to statements he has made in right-wing media since going free. The suit does not specify any monetary damages, but attorneys for the parents filed a $10 million claim notice in December.

“He’s responsible,” John Huber said of Rittenhouse, who fired at Anthony Huber after Huber struck him with a skateboard during a foot chase. Rittenhouse “killed two people. He became an active shooter and my son tried to stop him," John Huber said. “Unfortunately, he wasn’t able to stop him, and he lost his life in the process.”

Huber’s parents filed the original lawsuit against the city of Kenosha and the Kenosha Police Department last August. The updated motion adds Rittenhouse and seven law enforcement agencies and counties from the area as defendants.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/01/21/rittenhouse-huber-lawsuit/

[Lovie777]

1. Good. ..

[maxsolomon]

2. Good luck to them.

Huber's intent was self-defense.

[FBaggins]

4. Huber's family can't claim self defense

You can't chase someone and grab for their gun and call it self defense.

They can (and do) say that he was trying to protect others. But it's unlikely to go anywhere. They may have some success with a gofundme "justice for Anthony" campaign.

[brush]

11. He was trying to stop an active shooter/killer.

Seems like a strong civil case to me where the verdict doesn't have to be unanimous. They should also add the guy who bought and supplied the assault weapon to a teenager.

[iluvtennis]

23. + agree. n/t

[COL Mustard]

31. Also the burden of proof is lower.

Preponderance of evidence in a civil trial vs. beyond a reasonable doubt in a criminal trial.

Of course, I'm not a lawyer and I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

[WhiteTara]

37. and the mother who drove him there.

[brush]

38. Absolutely.

[maxsolomon]

39. She didn't do that.

He drove himself. He got the gun from his friend's house.

[Polybius]

41. Hitting someone with an AR-16 with your skateboard is a failure of epic proportions

Ugh, what was he thinking? Why pick a fight that you can't win? Perhaps he thought he could disarm him?

[momta]

52. Seriously?

Blame the victim much?

[Polybius]

56. Zero blame

He's a martyr because people will now learn to run from a guy with an AR-15. This isn't a Steven Segal movie in 1990. It was a dumb idea. Doesn't mean he wasn't brave and not a victim.

[jaxexpat]

14. And when they go after them with a "stand your ground" defense.....use it!

Amid the plentiful examples of weird justice in this age of intellectual perversion, "Stand Your Ground" is a principle which needs to be shown the door. This provides an instance wherein there are enough POV's before the eyes of justice to clearly expose how this barely visible legal principle is finally revealed to have no opaque qualities whatsoever.

I mean, how does one defend the action required to "stand another's ground"? By getting killed while performing a public service.

The case may go nowhere on its merits but all the amateur bone surgeons watching from home on their Tee-Vees would see how the x-rays clearly show the broken cranium.

[FBaggins]

19. Wisconsin doesn't have a stand your ground law

The defense was a straight up claim of self-defense.

[DallasNE]

17. Why Does An Active Shooter Have The Law On His Side?

Huber just witnessed Rittenhouse gun down another person. He tried to neutralize an active shooter with nothing but a skateboard. If I was in that same situation, I would like to think I would have acted in a similar manner to Huber, especially the grabbing for the gun. What I not seeing?

[FBaggins]

20. He doesn't

If Huber had survived and for some reason was charged with assault... he would absolutely have had a self-defense case and/or been able to claim that he was trying to protect others. The reasonableness of his assumption that Rittenhouse was an active shooter would have been almost impossible to beat. "The law" would have been on his side - just as it was on Rittenhouse's side in defending against criminal charges.

[meow2u3]

53. Rottenhouse didn't really have the law on his side

He had the judge on his side. That judge all but ordered the jury to acquit him.

[Maraya1969]

42. "The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun"

If Huber had a gun and killed Rittenhouse it would be justified because Rittenhouse was an immediate danger. But all Huber had was a skateboard so Rittenhouse wins? Remember Rittenhouse was pointing his gun at at least one of those men.

[FBaggins]

47. You have the law backwards

That’s a very common misperception… that confrontation involves a good guy and a bad guy and the law should punish the bad guy. The law doesn’t work that way.

It all depends on being a criminal defendant. Yes… if Huber had a gun and had shot Rittenhouse… he would have no trouble convincing a jury that it was in self defense.

It’s entirely possible for two people to each legitimately believe that their lives are in danger and use deadly force. That’s probably why it isn’t a good idea to bring a firearm to a protest where tempers are likely to flare.

Having just a skateboard doesn’t change anything. Huber would be protected if someone were charging him for the assault… but it’s an entirely different case if he’s trying to sue someone else. The law protects defendants - not “good guys”

[rockfordfile]

46. yes you can. That pos had already shot another person

[FBaggins]

48. But was then running away

It makes a difference under WI law

If he had been spraying bullets as he ran down the street… then it could still be defense of others (though probably not self defense), but that wasn’t what was caught on film.

Neither of which matters much - because legitimate self defense does not demonstrate that you were illegally assaulted - but it is a defense against such a claim.

[AverageOldGuy]

3. Remember:

While a criminal trial requires a UNANIMOUS jury verdict, civil matters require only a MAJORITY of the jury -- 12 people on the jury, if 7 vote GUILTY, then, the family wins a bundle of $$$$$.

[Effete Snob]

24. "then, the family wins a bundle of $$$$$"

From whom?

[maxsolomon]

40. The City of Kenosha/Kenosha PD

that allowed and encouraged armed vigilantes to patrol its streets.

[hydrolastic]

45. This !!!

The city/pd is responsible. Rittenhouse should never have been there armed.

[LiberalFighter]

5. Bankrupt the kid for life.

[Initech]

6. And hey you know what? Follow the money trail.

Find out who's bankrolling him and bankrupt them too!

[LiberalFighter]

9. Would love that.

[Initech]

21. I would make a great auditor!

Of course digging too deep you could wind up with the cement shoes...

[Maraya1969]

43. Yea wasn't there some right winged celebrity that gave him money?

[DENVERPOPS]

18. I think that the deep pockets of the

Republican Party Donors will make sure he has, no out of pocket costs, and great attorneys defend him.........

[VEGANGTA]

7. Civil uses balance of probability

Lets hope they win!

[Traildogbob]

8. This will

Only reinforce his future political career in the GQP. Bang Bang Barbie got a job, prior to GED. 3 attempts to pass. The only requirement to a seat in congress is an assault rifle, or many. Killing a few libs makes you a shoe in. Congressman Kyle. Get ready for it. Him, Green, Barbie, Cawthorn and many more will be the Assault Rifle Caucus. Killing libs with one could make you chairman of the committee.

[calimary]

28. I love that "Bang Bang Barbie"!

[Paladin]

10. Outstanding. (nt)

[usaf-vet]

29. My earlier response to a Kyle R. OP here on DU.

I predict that Kyle Rittenhouse will end up in prison some time in his life because our system wasn't strong enough to STOP HIM while it still had a chance.

He has been told he is invincible. And he will continue to push the envelope.

[Paladin]

50. Time for the nasty little boy to grow up a little. (nt)

[Trueblue1968]

12. he is a murderer and i hope he ends up homeless and starving.

[PatrickforB]

13. Oh oh. Poor little Kyle - here he thought he was getting off scot free after his trial!

Now there's a nice set of wrongful death lawsuits beginning.

I'm seeing wage garnishment in his long-term future! Huber's parents are in the process of attaching to his future earnings. I'm sure they would much rather have Anthony back, for sure, but a Rittenhouse pension may help assuage their grief, or at least address any financial hardship they endured over this.

[ShazzieB]

15. This is an excellent development.

He has talked about "writing" (i.e., having someone ghost write) a book about his experiences. Law suits like this could keep him from being able to get rich off of such an endeavor, or from appearance fees and such.

[Ziggysmom]

30. Just what we need, a fake book full of right wing propaganda, total BS

just like the fake crocodile tears he easily produced at his trial. His "Breakdown" made me wanna puke!

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

51. WHAT TEARS - there was no sign of liquid running out of eyes whatsoever! In what universe are

people so gullible or stupid they think real crying can happen without actual tears being produced. The universe I'm living in apparently.

Fake crying in movies has always bugged me - they scrunch up their face and make sobbing sounds without any trace of real tears. A good actor can draw upon past experience and get themselves to really cry. In leiu of that youd think the special effects department could come up with something to make the scene more believable.

[roamer65]

16. They got OJ in the civil case.

They will get this little murderer as well.

[calimary]

27. Yep. If you can't take a bite that kills, then nibble around the edges.

And you can still work your way toward a vulnerable target.

[3Hotdogs]

22. Dunno. He looked so cute in some of the pictures.

I wanted to take him home and cuddle him.


























Yes, Athos, its sarcasm.

[calimary]

25. Good! Hey, whatever works!

Don’t forget - they FINALLY got Al Capone. For tax evasion.

[Corgigal]

26. Might need to

[marieo1]

32. Disgusting piece of humanity

Kyle Rittenhouse should be in prison..........I don't understand how he got off on killing people and even carrying an AR15 riffle..............I am totally losing faith in our court system.

[The Grand Illuminist]

35. Makes us wonder what would happen

In a bench trial. One of the biggest problems in the modern era are tainted juries when the incident is unstoppably wide spread by all forms of media.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

33. Rittenhouse will learn how it feels to have a judgment pending against him for the rest of his life

There should be a finding of intentional tort which will make it hard to get this judgment discharged in bankruptcy

[Ruby the Liberal]

34. Wonderful news

[bdamomma]

36. Good for his Parents

Rittenhouse needs to pay for taking a life.

[jcmaine72]

44. I hope they win BIG. n/t

[The Jungle 1]

49. I hope that racist dung ball pays the rest of his life.

[Blue Owl]

54. Let's hope it Good Rittance for Kyle this time

Still makes me sick how he got off scott free from that tRump judge in the first trial...

[radius777]

55. The racist crybaby is going to mess with the wrong person

and get his karma at some point. Huber/Rosenbaum should've 'self-defensed' him, but I doubt they (being viewed as being on the side of BLM) would've received the same 'kid glove' treatment that Shittenhouse did (who the cops enabled). The majority of White America dislikes BLM and views the punk as a hero - that's the problem with getting justice in cases like these.

However, BLM and a tougher Left in American politics is the future - even young whites tend to side with BLM.

[Calista241]

57. Rittenhouse has no assets to seize. His mother wasn't exactly rich.

Any assets he has accumulated from the gofundme, or will acquire in the future will more than likely be a part of some company specifically designed to shield assets from seizure.

[riversedge]

58. Well, I think a good development for Kyle. I am sure the RW Money will again pour in just

like it did last time.