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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 07:36 PM Jan 2022

Michael Flynn allies allegedly plotted to lean on Republicans to back vote audits

Source: The Guardian

FBI agents and the House panel investigating the January 6 attack on the Capitol have both learned of an alleged plan by allies of retired army Lt Gen Michael Flynn to gather “intelligence” on top Republicans to “move” them to back election audits in key states Trump lost, said ex-whistleblower Everett Stern who talked to the panel and the FBI.

Stern, who runs the intelligence firm Tactical Rabbit and is a Republican vying for a Senate seat in Pennsylvania, in multiple interviews with the Guardian said two Flynn associates with the rightwing Patriot Caucus group enlisted his help in April in a scheme to seek potentially damaging information on two Republican members of Congress to prod them to back an audit of the 2020 vote that Joe Biden won.

Stern told the Guardian he spent several hours in November telling House panel investigators about the alleged drive by Flynn associates who sought campaign finance and other dirt on Pennsylvania’s Senator Pat Toomey and Congressman Brian Fitzpatrick to win their support for an audit to bolster Trump’s debunked charges that Biden’s win was fraudulent.

A long-shot candidate to succeed the retiring Toomey, Stern said he alerted the FBI in June when he learned more details of the bizarre drive by Flynn allies to specifically target the two Republicans, both of whom backed impeaching Trump after the January 6 insurrection.

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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/21/michael-flynn-allies-allegedly-targeted-republicans-back-election-audits



What's a few more crimes when you are doing a coup?



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Michael Flynn allies allegedly plotted to lean on Republicans to back vote audits (Original Post) L. Coyote Jan 2022 OP
Strangely enough, there was a point Turbineguy Jan 2022 #1
Also, the draft Executive Order moondust Jan 2022 #2
Timeline needed L. Coyote Jan 2022 #4
coup? llashram Jan 2022 #11
It's time for the Pentagon to step up, damn it! PJMcK Jan 2022 #3
I would LOVE to see this.... bahboo Jan 2022 #7
Who wants to bet, gab13by13 Jan 2022 #5
Who wants to bet, L. Coyote Jan 2022 #6
It appears to be the republican way these days PatSeg Jan 2022 #10
The same Mike Flynn who threatened Congress with his new rifle? cbabe Jan 2022 #8
Wonder if he has access to some of the stuff the Russians got in their RNC hack (Nt) FreepFryer Jan 2022 #9
Is Flynn's brother still an active duty General? Tommymac Jan 2022 #12
General FLYNN and General PIATT that refused to green light guard support to the capitol L. Coyote Jan 2022 #13
Much appreciated. nt Tommymac Jan 2022 #14
Sounds like a classic case of Extortion which is illegal in all 50 states and under Federal law. Ford_Prefect Jan 2022 #15
Stern doesn't appear to be very good at coming up with a name soldierant Jan 2022 #16
I take you aren't familiar with the phrase: "The rabbit hole runs deep on this one." Ford_Prefect Jan 2022 #19
Let's just say that every time I hear or read of a person or a group soldierant Jan 2022 #20
In some circles it is used to mean there is much more below the surface of the issue. Ford_Prefect Jan 2022 #22
Then it makes sense if hi was tergeting the intelligence community( past or resent). soldierant Jan 2022 #24
Flynn's a real piece of work. In 2016 he tried to get exCIA chief Woolsey's help oasis Jan 2022 #17
Obama fired Flynn, and warned about him, Sally Yates warned also. L. Coyote Jan 2022 #18
Flynn's brain slipped a cog. From much of what I've read over the past several years, he was once allegorical oracle Jan 2022 #21
Like many others, Flynn fell under the spell of "Svengali" Trump. oasis Jan 2022 #23

Turbineguy

(37,295 posts)
1. Strangely enough, there was a point
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 07:50 PM
Jan 2022

early on in his post-military career that he realized he had made an error and had become addicted to the money. But it passed and he doubled down.

moondust

(19,963 posts)
2. Also, the draft Executive Order
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 08:48 PM
Jan 2022

to have the National Guard seize voting machines sounds a lot like a Flynn job, as CNBC writer suggests:

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It is unclear who wrote the draft document, which is dated Dec. 16, 2020 and entitled, “PRESIDENTIAL FINDINGS TO PRESERVE COLLECT AND ANALYZE NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION REGARDING THE 2020 GENERAL ELECTION.” It parrots arguments that were made by lawyer Sidney Powell and former national security adviser Michael Flynn during a Dec. 18 meeting at the White House.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/21/trump-draft-executive-order-would-have-authorized-national-guard-to-seize-voting-machines.html

Timeline would suggest they drafted the EO on Dec. 16 and took it to the WH two days later.

More Flynn:
Trump's former national security advisor says the president should impose martial law to force new elections in battleground states

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
4. Timeline needed
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 08:56 PM
Jan 2022


Who sent the National Guard?


Bill Barr announced leaving on Dec 14
Dec 16 - draft order to seize voting machines
Dec 18 - Trump stops briefing Biden
Jan 3 - All Sec. of Defense OpEd in Wa Post = Biden won.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
11. coup?
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 11:50 AM
Jan 2022

Last edited Sun Jan 23, 2022, 05:55 PM - Edit history (1)

nah A loser potus and his then trusted military aide wouldn't plot a coup, never!!

PJMcK

(21,998 posts)
3. It's time for the Pentagon to step up, damn it!
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 08:55 PM
Jan 2022

Flynn must be recalled to duty then courtmartialed. His behavior is antithetical to our Constitution and our laws.

Hey, Secretary Austin! What's going on over there in Arlington? Are you paying attention? Are you going to let this seditious traitor walk free?!

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
5. Who wants to bet,
Sat Jan 22, 2022, 09:03 PM
Jan 2022

this isn't the first time Republicans have used blackmail on other Republicans? What dirt do they have on Lyndsey Graham?

Who knows maybe they blackmailed 2 Democratic Senators?

PatSeg

(47,284 posts)
10. It appears to be the republican way these days
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 11:02 AM
Jan 2022

It has always been the way Trump operates, so it should come as no surprise.

Oh yes, someone(s) has some really juicy dirt on Lindsey Graham!

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
12. Is Flynn's brother still an active duty General?
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 12:21 PM
Jan 2022

If so, he needs to be put in a position where he cannot do any damage until Flynn's role in the insurrection can be discussed under oath. And he needs to be investigated.

I heard the brother was in the Pentagon War Room on 1/6...but had no influence on any decisions to call in or hold back the NG.

THIS needs to be investigated too.

Ford_Prefect

(7,873 posts)
15. Sounds like a classic case of Extortion which is illegal in all 50 states and under Federal law.
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 02:05 PM
Jan 2022

Imagine a RW Christian Nationalist Republican operative engaging in profoundly illegal mafia style tactics to subvert the Constitution and Suborn members of the US Senate?

Does that sound like the party of Law and Order to you?

Does that sound like Christian values and ethics in action?

Does that sound like the Republican party Standard Operating Procedure to you?

Every Damn Day It Does!!!

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Extortion: Meaning in law
The term extortion refers to the crime of obtaining money or property by using threats of harm against the victim, or against his property or family. Extortion might involve threats of damage to the victim’s reputation, or to his financial well being. Anything obtained by the use of extortion, including consent, has been illegally obtained, and the perpetrator has committed a felony. To explore this concept, consider the following extortion definition.

Definition of Extortion
noun. The act of obtaining something of value by using threats, force, or abuse of authority.

What is Extortion
Extortion is a crime in which one person attempts to force another person to do something against his will. Extortion is used to force the victim to give property or money to the perpetrator, or to take some action, such as giving someone a promotion, or voting for something. This is done by threatening the victim’s property, person, or loved ones with harm, by intimidating the victim, or by falsely claiming a right. While extortion cases generally must contain some type of threat to the victim, his property, or his family to be classified as extortion, it does not need to involve actual physical injury, or relate to any other specific unlawful act.


https://legaldictionary.net/extortion/

The GOP needs to be burned to the ground and erased from any future American Political life.

soldierant

(6,799 posts)
16. Stern doesn't appear to be very good at coming up with a name
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 05:55 PM
Jan 2022

for his business, does he. "Tactical Rabbit" - I certainly wouldn't have any confidence in intelligence which came out of a rabbit hole.

Reminds me of the (appocryphal?) story of the Chevy Nova not selling well in Spanish-speaking areas ("No va" = "it doesn't go.&quot )

soldierant

(6,799 posts)
20. Let's just say that every time I hear or read of a person or a group
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 12:14 AM
Jan 2022

going down a rabbit hole, it means they are becoming batshit crazy (or, as I hear bats are now saying, trumoshit crazy.) And the deeper, the crazier.

Ford_Prefect

(7,873 posts)
22. In some circles it is used to mean there is much more below the surface of the issue.
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 12:15 PM
Jan 2022

People in the intelligence service sometimes use it to imply there are complex hidden connections to a situation or event.

Just food for thought...

soldierant

(6,799 posts)
24. Then it makes sense if hi was tergeting the intelligence community( past or resent).
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 11:29 PM
Jan 2022

Not so much if he was targeting people outside that circle.

oasis

(49,338 posts)
17. Flynn's a real piece of work. In 2016 he tried to get exCIA chief Woolsey's help
Sun Jan 23, 2022, 06:50 PM
Jan 2022

in the kidnap of an enemy of Turkey’s mobster President Erdugan. On American soil.

allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
21. Flynn's brain slipped a cog. From much of what I've read over the past several years, he was once
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 10:35 AM
Jan 2022

a respected military guy. So what happened? Seems implausible that a mere election could've caused him to run entirely off the rails.

oasis

(49,338 posts)
23. Like many others, Flynn fell under the spell of "Svengali" Trump.
Mon Jan 24, 2022, 12:19 PM
Jan 2022
mush brains ripe for the harvesting.
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