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George II

(67,782 posts)
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:04 AM Jan 2022

Bernie Sanders ally Nina Turner seeks rematch with Rep. Shontel Brown in Ohio

Source: NBC News

Jan. 26, 2022, 5:15 AM EST

By Henry J. Gomez

CLEVELAND — Nina Turner, the progressive activist with close ties to Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., is mounting another campaign for Congress in Ohio.

The former state senator from the Cleveland area told NBC News this week that she wants a rematch with Rep. Shontel Brown, who beat Turner last year in a Democratic primary.

“The same environment that motivated me to run before motivates me to run again,” Turner, who co-chaired Sanders’ 2020 campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination, said in a telephone interview. “The environment by which change needs to happen has not really percolated at this moment. I think that it's one thing for somebody to go and to vote the right way. But Greater Cleveland needs a fighter, and that's that's what I am.”

Brown beat Turner decisively in the special primary and easily won the general election to succeed Housing and Urban Development Secretary Marcia Fudge in the overwhelmingly Democratic 11th Congressional District. The race, one of few on the ballot last year, was an ideological battle that attracted an influx of national attention and money, fueled in large part by Turner’s willingness to antagonize the Democratic establishment. Brown ran as a reliable backer of President Joe Biden.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/bernie-sanders-ally-nina-turner-seeks-rematch-rep-shontel-brown-n1288008



How can this turn out any differently from last August's primary, especially with Shontel Brown doing a GREAT job as the incumbent Representative for OH-11?
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Bernie Sanders ally Nina Turner seeks rematch with Rep. Shontel Brown in Ohio (Original Post) George II Jan 2022 OP
She will lose by more than she did last time Lawrence454 Jan 2022 #1
And now she is loser Turner question everything Jan 2022 #2
Is she going to run as a member of her own party mcar Jan 2022 #3
My guess is that after she loses the primary to Shontel Brown, she'll run third party as a.... George II Jan 2022 #5
Nope - Ohio has a "sore loser" prohibiting an Independent run brooklynite Jan 2022 #27
Nina Turner is on the pathway to becoming a perennial candidate. TexasTowelie Jan 2022 #4
The last time she won a contested election/primary was in 2006. George II Jan 2022 #7
She sucks (Nt) FreepFryer Jan 2022 #6
Jesus... GB_RN Jan 2022 #8
Yes, Nina in Congress PatSeg Jan 2022 #16
Completely agree. Moebym Jan 2022 #26
At Least AOC Is Civil... GB_RN Jan 2022 #28
What a great image! Reminds me of a movie ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2022 #33
The Music Sounds Familiar... GB_RN Jan 2022 #34
The fact that Turner did not vote for Hillary in the general election in 2016, and encouraged others JohnSJ Jan 2022 #9
Why can't she just take "NO" for an answer? NurseJackie Jan 2022 #10
Here's how The People's Party made the announcement last spring: George II Jan 2022 #11
Yep! I remember! --- The disgust and contempt for the Democratic party is obvious. NurseJackie Jan 2022 #14
The People's Party are a long way from bring relevant or viable Moebym Jan 2022 #25
I thought that The Young Turks gave Nina a platform? nt TexasTowelie Jan 2022 #13
Perpetual fundraising can be lucrative... dlk Jan 2022 #31
I have disliked Turner ever since the 2016 DNC. Moebym Jan 2022 #12
Yes, I think you're right PatSeg Jan 2022 #18
Universally Disliked BlueIdaho Jan 2022 #15
Probably attention primarily PatSeg Jan 2022 #19
Yup, the big giant ego strikes again. nt. BlueIdaho Jan 2022 #20
She tries SO hard, PatSeg Jan 2022 #21
Do something useful, run against Manchin. Mawspam2 Jan 2022 #17
How would that be useful? NurseJackie Jan 2022 #22
Nina Turner in WVa would be a blowout Moebym Jan 2022 #24
Will Bernie, AOC and the squad campaign for her this time around? comradebillyboy Jan 2022 #23
Ha! NurseJackie Jan 2022 #29
Nina "they tried to seduce us with donuts and water" Turner is one of those who become less betsuni Jan 2022 #30
She keeps trying. She'll lose again as she's unlikable.... brush Jan 2022 #32
Except for her very first election, she has never won a contested election. George II Jan 2022 #35
Voters know her now. How many loses is it now? brush Jan 2022 #36
Not enough to convince her not to run again. She lost in August, and this year's primary is in May.. George II Jan 2022 #37
I'm sure you're thinking the same thing I am about... brush Jan 2022 #39
So she's bringing the van back? LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2022 #41
Of course she is.. Meanwhile Shontel Brown.. Cha Jan 2022 #38
I am not a fan of the New Congress or the Justice Democrats LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2022 #40

George II

(67,782 posts)
5. My guess is that after she loses the primary to Shontel Brown, she'll run third party as a....
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:17 AM
Jan 2022

"People's Party" candidate.

brooklynite

(94,489 posts)
27. Nope - Ohio has a "sore loser" prohibiting an Independent run
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 04:50 PM
Jan 2022

But she'll have two years to get her "People's Party on the ballot for 2024.

TexasTowelie

(112,086 posts)
4. Nina Turner is on the pathway to becoming a perennial candidate.
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:14 AM
Jan 2022

Always running for some office, but never winning so she has to run again.

GB_RN

(2,347 posts)
8. Jesus...
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:42 AM
Jan 2022

Just quit and go home already, Nina. We don't need your loud, obnoxiousness in Congress. There's already enough of that coming from the other side from Bang Bang Barbie, Empty Green, Gonzo Gosar, Cowchip Roy, MoRon Brooks, et al, as it is.

The last thing we need is to have someone like them on OUR side of the aisle hurling the same kind of bombs, creating media distractions and allowing the media and Republicans to (hypocritically) say, "Look at the foul, incendiary language the Democrat (sic) party uses!"

We need a team player Nina, and you've demonstrated by your own words that you're incapable of being a team player.

PatSeg

(47,370 posts)
16. Yes, Nina in Congress
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 12:46 PM
Jan 2022

would only give republicans more ammo to use against Democrats. Whenever anyone criticizes Marjorie Taylor Green, Matt Gaetz, or Paul Gosar, they'll play "I know I am, but what are you?" They'll shout louder and longer to drown out Democrats voices.

I've gotten the impression that once Turner got a taste of being in the limelight, she became addicted. She cannot stand to be ignored and she cannot control her mouth, a dangerous combination in politics.

Moebym

(989 posts)
26. Completely agree.
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 04:50 PM
Jan 2022

I still cringe a little whenever AOC (usually) gets into a heated Twitter exchange with MTG or whomever.

Nina would be that, but a thousand times worse. She'd do nothing but cause drama that'd distract from serious discussions and propose ideas that don't have a sliver of a chance of becoming law.

GB_RN

(2,347 posts)
28. At Least AOC Is Civil...
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 04:58 PM
Jan 2022

And she usually gets the best of whomever she's in a Twitter battle with via humor and facts. And never goes off half-cocked.

With Nina, you have no such guarantees of any of that. To me, she's the equivalent of driving a dump truck through a nitroglycerin factory.

JohnSJ

(92,116 posts)
9. The fact that Turner did not vote for Hillary in the general election in 2016, and encouraged others
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:51 AM
Jan 2022

to do likewise, and never expressed regret for that, is a huge problem

In my view we do not need people who divide Democrats, but unite them, and Turner is not that person



NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
10. Why can't she just take "NO" for an answer?
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 12:00 PM
Jan 2022

Will Turner have enough time (THIS TIME) to properly get her new "People's Party" registered so that it can appear on the Ohio ballots?

I remember LAST time she had to grudgingly run "as a Democrat" because her new "People's Party" couldn't get on the ballot because of some reason (missed deadline? not enough interest? not properly registered?)

In any case, they've had PLENTY of time to learn from previous mistakes and get all the paperwork filled-in properly and filed on time. So naturally we can expect her to run as a THIRD PARTY candidate since she lacks what it takes to be chosen in a DEMOCRATIC primary.

How can this turn out any differently from last August's primary, especially with Shontel Brown doing a GREAT job as the incumbent Representative for OH-11?
It won't turn out differently. She just needs some sort of platform from which to attack Democrats and the Democratic party. She needs a camera pointed at her face for the next time she compares Biden to a BOWL OF SHIT or some other equally disgusting insult.

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. Here's how The People's Party made the announcement last spring:
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 12:14 PM
Jan 2022
It’s official! Sen. Nina Turner is running for Congress. She’s running for the seat vacated by Rep. Marcia Fudge, who Joe Biden has chosen as secretary of Housing and Urban Development. The People’s Party isn’t on the ballot in Ohio yet so she will have to run as a Democrat.


https://peoplesparty.org/nina-turner-congress/

Moebym

(989 posts)
25. The People's Party are a long way from bring relevant or viable
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 04:42 PM
Jan 2022

They are an offshoot of far left fringe Twitter, and believe me when I say that they're among the most toxic groups I've ever encountered.

Someone acceptable to them will never win elected office except in areas that are already dark blue.

Moebym

(989 posts)
12. I have disliked Turner ever since the 2016 DNC.
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 12:15 PM
Jan 2022

She is the candidate of far left Twitter, one of the most toxic groups of people I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with.

If she were elected, she'd probably have spent all of her time picking fights and seeking attention instead of doing anything productive.

PatSeg

(47,370 posts)
18. Yes, I think you're right
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 12:51 PM
Jan 2022

Nina Turner is an attention-seeking disruptor. She doesn't really want to accomplish anything productive, she just wants to tear things down, preferably in front of a camera. Then blame everyone else when she doesn't succeed.

PatSeg

(47,370 posts)
19. Probably attention primarily
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 12:57 PM
Jan 2022

She got a taste of it years ago and now she's addicted. I think it is a common affliction among politicians, who often get caught up in their own self-importance. Maybe she didn't get enough attention as a child?

PatSeg

(47,370 posts)
21. She tries SO hard,
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 01:07 PM
Jan 2022

but essentially she is just loud, rude, and unlikable. I think she could benefit from some therapy.

Moebym

(989 posts)
24. Nina Turner in WVa would be a blowout
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 04:31 PM
Jan 2022

For the GOP. I mean, Manchin of all people is the only acceptable kind of Democrat, and he soundly defeated a far leftie who challenged him.

Plus, she does not live there.

betsuni

(25,453 posts)
30. Nina "they tried to seduce us with donuts and water" Turner is one of those who become less
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 05:13 PM
Jan 2022

and less popular the more people know them.

Nobody's in the mood for that populist revolution noise about how the evil corrupt corporate Democratic establishment is TERRIFIED of righteous True Progressives like Nina who are the only ones fighting for the working class/working families, etc. We know, we know, we know, we know, we've heard it a million times. Oh well, there'll be new vulgarities and slanders aimed at Democrats to add to "The Collected Insults of Nina Turner."

brush

(53,764 posts)
32. She keeps trying. She'll lose again as she's unlikable....
Thu Jan 27, 2022, 06:15 PM
Jan 2022

as a candidate. Her mouth always gets her in trouble.

George II

(67,782 posts)
37. Not enough to convince her not to run again. She lost in August, and this year's primary is in May..
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 12:04 AM
Jan 2022

Those two are only about 9 months apart. Is she expecting a different outcome against the same opponent who is only MORE popular now in the district?

Not going to happen.

brush

(53,764 posts)
39. I'm sure you're thinking the same thing I am about...
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 12:12 AM
Jan 2022

doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

Cha

(297,119 posts)
38. Of course she is.. Meanwhile Shontel Brown..
Fri Jan 28, 2022, 12:09 AM
Jan 2022

is actually doing a brilliant job in Congress.. getting exceptional Experience!


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