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Mon Mar 7, 2022, 07:06 AM

Ukraine decries 'immoral' Kremlin offer of civilian corridors to Russia or Belarus

Source: The Guardian

Ukraine has criticised a proposal by Moscow to open refugee corridors as “completely immoral” after the Russian defence ministry announced that civilians fleeing some cities would only be allowed to leave for Belarus or Russia.
As Russian forces continued to pound Ukrainian cities, with rockets hitting residential buildings, Oleksiy Arestovich, an adviser to the Ukrainian president’s chief of staff, said negotiations were under way with Russia on establishing safe routes out.

But humanitarian corridors were unlikely to be set up while Russian forces keep trying to advance, Arestovich said, adding that although Ukrainians should be able to decide individually where they wanted to go, evacuating to Russia was not advisable.

A spokesperson for the Ukrainian presidency, meanwhile, said people must be allowed to flee their homes through Ukrainian territory. “This is a completely immoral story. People’s suffering is used to create the desired television picture,” he said.

On Monday, Russia announced humanitarian corridors would open in several Ukrainian cities, a day after some of the hundreds of thousands of civilians trying to flee cities including Mariupol came under fire as they attempted to leave.

More at www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/07/russia-humanitarian-corridors-ukraine-war-mariupol-kyiv


Read more: www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/07/russia-humanitarian-corridors-ukraine-war-mariupol-kyiv



IMO this is 1) attempt to create propaganda films of Ukrainian's "fleeing Nazis" to the "safety of Mother Russia"
and
2) Although I know this analogy is exaggerated, it feels not very different from offering Jews dying in the Polish ghettos "humanitarian corridors" to get to "safety" in concentration camps.

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Reply Ukraine decries 'immoral' Kremlin offer of civilian corridors to Russia or Belarus (Original post)
RockCreek Mar 2022 OP
EndlessWire Mar 2022 #1
madaboutharry Mar 2022 #2
AntiFascist Mar 2022 #11
Lovie777 Mar 2022 #3
sanatanadharma Mar 2022 #4
RockCreek Mar 2022 #5
samsingh Mar 2022 #6
RockCreek Mar 2022 #7
samsingh Mar 2022 #8
sakabatou Mar 2022 #9
SomewhereInTheMiddle Mar 2022 #10
Igel Mar 2022 #12

Response to RockCreek (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2022, 07:15 AM

1. I think you nailed it. n/t

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Response to RockCreek (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2022, 07:17 AM

2. There should be no doubt that Reagan was right about one thing;

It is an evil empire.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 7, 2022, 04:01 PM

11. ...because of godless communism...

as Putin and his predecessors have now adopted Russian orthodoxy and a kleptocratic form of corrupt capitalism, they have been left alone. Perhaps Reagan felt this would 'trickle down' to the populace.

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Response to RockCreek (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2022, 07:58 AM

3. Concentration camps......

to be torture while being treated inhumane.

Looks more and more like what Hitler did.

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Response to RockCreek (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2022, 08:06 AM

4. While everyone would be reluctant to cross the border...

While everyone would be reluctant to cross the border, non-Ukrainians, like all citizens of African countries, could get out of the war zone and cause Russia a major problem.
If NATO nation nationals were to escape Ukraine into Russia, Russia would then have an obligation to protect them.
Failure to do so would give NATO nations (& others) reason to assure that Russia "goes through some things".

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Response to sanatanadharma (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 7, 2022, 10:01 AM

5. Great points, thank you!

I hope some citizens of other countries take advantage of this if such corridors do actually open. And if they are actually safe.

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Response to RockCreek (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2022, 11:56 AM

6. It's like handing someone a snake to hold onto when they're drowning

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Response to samsingh (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 7, 2022, 12:04 PM

7. And a lethal poisonous snake, or a strangling snake

And a lethal poisonous snake, or a strangling snake. Not a mild garter snake.

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Response to RockCreek (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 7, 2022, 12:05 PM

8. yup

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Response to RockCreek (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2022, 12:11 PM

9. Bingo.

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Response to RockCreek (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2022, 02:04 PM

10. Would all our ...


...future prisoners of war, slave laborers, and human shields please do us the courtesy of transporting themselves to our prepared holding facilities at the end of each 'humanitarian corridor'.

That is all.

Sounds dubious to me.

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Response to RockCreek (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2022, 08:04 PM

12. Great photo-op.

Makes for good hostages in case of insurgency.

In keeping with "Russian world" and pan-(east)slavic thought--they are one people, and ethnic identity and solidarity (imposed and enforced if necessary) is key. Losing Ukrainians to the West is *more* betrayal, I suspect.

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