Vladimir Putin reportedly fires eight generals

[AntiFascist]

Source: EuroWeekly

Russian President Vladimir Putin has fired eight of his generals since the start of his ‘special operation’, according to Oleksiy Danilov, the head of Ukraine’s security council. Putin is rumoured to be livid over the slow advance on Kyiv by his military forces, coupled with the estimated high losses, which has led to him wielding the axe on his commanders.

The FSB security service has also apparently felt Putin’s anger too, with claims that the Russian leader is fuming over reports handed to him prior to the invasion which informed him that Ukraine was weak, and would roll over once attacked. Several of his high-ranking commanders have also been killed in action.

Speaking to The Times, a former senior British intelligence officer, Philip Ingram, said, “He blames them for seeding him the advice that led to the poor decision-making in Ukraine”. Adding that Putin is obviously very upset at the poor intelligence.

...

Danilov told state television in Ukraine, “They had about eight generals removed from their posts because they did not complete the task. Now new ones have been appointed. We clearly understand what is happening in the Russian Federation. I can say that they are desperate”.

Read more: https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/03/11/vladimir-putin-reportedly-fires-eight-generals/

[MontanaMama]

1. Sounds like Putler is having a mad

about how things are going for Russia.

[peppertree]

92. It's getting downright pathetic

[mahina]

124. I thought of this exact scene.

“I will have some new generals, for a bit”

[peppertree]

125. +1

And he'll no doubt end up the same way (or worse).

[ffr]

2. Double RESISTANCE efforts!

Hey Vlad, GO FUCK YOURSELF! Loner!

[Midnight Writer]

3. Don't tell me. Putin "is getting tired of winning"?

Note to Tucker: Yes, you can use this. About the only positive spin you can put on it.

[Pachamama]

4. Putin sounds like he is about to have his "Who ate the Strawberries" moment...

[Hekate]

54. Definitely. If only that didn't come with turning Ukraine into rubble and deep holes.

🌻🌻🌻💔🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻💔🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻💔🌻🌻🌻🌻

[Pachamama]

93. Depraved and evil

[Hekate]

99. It breaks my heart -- that and the right wing assault on American women are too much

💔. 💔💔

[Evolve Dammit]

114. and anyone who is not white and "straight." It's all being targeted by RW fascists. It's here.

[electric_blue68]

126. TFG give "permission" for all of the haters often skulking around more in the shadows to...

operate in broad daylight. 😔😥🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[Evolve Dammit]

127. From Day 1. Totally agree

[TheRealNorth]

5. It's possible he fired them....

Because they wouldn't go as far as Putin wants (in terms of death and destruction).

[swag]

26. A big worry here,

especially since he keeps pushing that US chemical weapons in Ukraine narrative, as a possible pretext for whatever extremity he has in mind.

[Irish_Dem]

32. Yes Putin looks weak now and he may have to compensate with horrific measures.

To show how strong and fearsome he is.

[SunSeeker]

73. Only a sick fuck like Putun would think bombing babies makes you look strong. nt

[Irish_Dem]

74. Russian leaders like to use terror and fear as control methods.

Going back to Stalin the tactics were barbarian.

[onetexan]

94. Yup, and people seem to forget the madman was a KGB agent

[Irish_Dem]

95. He has been using brutality and fear to control and manipulate for decades.

And is very good at it.

[onetexan]

98. Classic Communist tactics

[TheRealNorth]

132. Actually goes back to at least the Tsars....

And maybe you could even say the Mongols.

If a city didn't surrender to the Mongols, they would kill the entire population.

That happened in Russia and was the reason why a good portion of it were tributary states if not outright controlled by the successors to the Mongol Empire established by Gengis Khan. At least until the rise of Muscovy (which gave rise to the modern Russian state) in the late 1400's.

[Irish_Dem]

133. True.

[keithbvadu2]

103. Bombing babies? - Genius strategy acc to Trump

[Irish_Dem]

134. In a genocide, children are killed to wipe out the next generation.

It is standard.

Also serves to terrorize and demoralize a population.

[smb]

58. They're Lucky They Didn't Get "Fired" Out Of A Cannon nt

[C_U_L8R]

59. That's coming. If they don't get him first.

[onetexan]

85. Exactly, by fired i assume fired upon by a firing squad

[keithbvadu2]

105. Canonized

Start about 1;14 on the timeline.

[BComplex]

6. I'm afraid the generals are going to try to be more ruthless as a result of Putin's move.

Either that or someone's going to put Putin out of his misery and just shoot him. Let us pray!

[orwell]

8. I'm afraid that the Russian's recent history in warfare...

...especially under the conscience-free Putler favors choice 1.

[ck4829]

11. Or it could be sycophants all the way down (Hopefully)

[Irish_Dem]

34. Yes I think the generals will become more and more vicious to civilians to appease Putin.

[paleotn]

101. The old Russian method of regime change.

[LT Barclay]

122. They might try, but it appears that the Russian command structure might be suffering from the same

delusions that many American CEOs are: you can treat people horribly and expect better results if you treat them worse, you don't have to invest in good equipment or maintain what you have because your people can make it work somehow, that your plan is the best plan because otherwise why would you have this great position? etc.
So, it is possible that no matter how hard they try to push, there is nothing to push with.

[AntiFascist]

123. Russia does appear to be getting desperate...

calling on Syrian mercenaries and Belarus to fortify their attack force.
We may (I would hope) be witnessing the slow motion implosion of Russian military and ultimately the existing government, but at what cost to the Ukrainians who are being terrorized?

[BComplex]

128. When the soldiers start realizing that they're not going to get paid with real money

because their country is broke and their currency won't buy anything, and there are no imports to buy....it's going to be a new day in Ukraine.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

7. Emulating Joseph Stalin

Let's hope he doesn't have a Georgy Zukhov waiting in the wings.

[gordianot]

116. During WWII you only got reinforcements if you were winning.

This was Soviet doctrine even after the war. True mobile warfare eluded the Soviets who relied on brute overwhelming force. Special political forces would motivate front line troops with machine guns in the rear move or die. Partisans separated from the main force were not to be trusted even when they were successful and were sent to Gulags after the war. Trying to recruit Syrians to fight in Ukraine is very telling.

[turbinetree]

9. Did" he" throw then them out of windows.....

[Lonestarblue]

10. Time to send everything possible to Ukraine.

I read an interesting opinion piece in WaPo today that identifies the FSB as Putin’s real fear. If they determine that he’s a threat to Russia’s future and their power, they have the skill tondo something about him. That might not be death but simply removing him from power.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2022/03/10/putin-coup-russia-siloviki/

“The real threat to Putin comes from the siloviki, a Russian word used loosely to describe Russia’s security and military elite. These are people like Nikolai Patrushev, currently the secretary of the Russian security council, and Alexander Bortnikov, the head of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB), as well as other current and former senior security officials.

Men like Patrushev and Bortnikov not only possess hard power, but they know how to use it and are inclined to do so. The FSB includes around 160,000 members of the Border Guard service, as well as thousands of armed personnel with law enforcement authorities. But the strength of the FSB comes not only from its ability to do violence; the organization is also highly secretive. FSB officers are skilled at working clandestinely, keeping their most sensitive operations strictly compartmented to small groups. Putin understands this better than most: He once ran the organization himself.

The siloviki are willing to use this deadly mixture of hard power and secrecy when a serious threat to the Russian kleptocratic system emerges.”

[Salviati]

13. I have to believe that they should be concluding that soon.

If vlad was worried about his legacy, I think he's certainly cemented it in place now. If he continues on this path he will be remembered as the man who singlehandedly destroyed russia, exposing it for the Potemkin superpower that it has been for years..

[Delphinus]

61. I think

you stated things well.

[tavernier]

20. Hmm, that could cause a little paranoia.

Have a nice weekend, Vladimort.

[AntiFascist]

30. There was also an alleged email from an FSB whistleblower...

the English translation is posted here:

https://pastebin.com/2agMRGmd

One of the insiders from the special services of the Russian Federation, I will publish without edits and censorship, because this is hell:
“I’ll be honest right away: I have hardly slept all these days, almost all the time at work, my head is a little floating, like in a fog. And from overwork, sometimes I already catch states, as if all this is not real.

To be honest, the Pandora's box is open - a real global horror will begin by the summer - global famine is inevitable (Russia and Ukraine were the main suppliers of grain in the world, this year's harvest will be smaller, and logistical problems will bring the catastrophe to a peak point).

I can't tell you what guided those at the top when deciding on the operation, but now they are methodically lowering all the dogs on us (the Service). We are scolded for analytics - this is very in my profile, so I will explain what is wrong.

Recently, we have been increasingly pressed to customize reports to the requirements of management - I once touched on this topic. All these political consultants, politicians and their retinue, influence teams - all this created chaos. Strong.

...

2) Our logistics are already overstretched today. We will drive a many times larger contingent, and what will we get? Ukraine is a hefty country in terms of territory. And now the level of hatred towards us is going through the roof. Our roads simply won't be able to handle such supply caravans - everything will come to a standstill. And we won't manage to pull it out - because it's chaos.
And these two reasons fall out at the same time, although even one is enough to break everything off.

Losses: I don't know how many there are. Nobody knows. For the first two days there was still control, now no one knows what is going on there. You can lose large units in communication. They can be found, or they can dissolve due to being attacked. And there, even the commanders may not know how many of them are running around somewhere nearby, how many died, how many are in captivity. The number of deaths is definitely in the thousands. Maybe 10 thousand, maybe 5, or maybe only 2. Even at the headquarters they don’t know for sure. But it should be closer to 10. And now we don’t count the LDNR corps - they have their own accounting.

...

We have a conditional deadline of June. Conditional - because in June we have no economy left, nothing remains. By and large, next week there will be a turning point in one of the sides, simply because the situation cannot be in such an overstrain. There are no analytics - it is impossible to calculate the chaos, here no one can say anything for sure. Act intuitively, and even on emotions - but this is not poker for you. Rates will rise, in the hope that suddenly some option will shoot through. The trouble is that we, too, can now miscalculate and lose everything in one move.

...

Is there a possibility of a local nuclear strike? Yes. Not for military purposes (it will not give anything - this is a defense breakthrough weapon), but with the aim of intimidating others. At the same time, the soil is being prepared to turn everything to Ukraine - Naryshkin and his SVR are now digging the earth to prove that they secretly created nuclear weapons there. Damn, they are now hammering on what we have long studied and dismantled:

...

From the cynical, I will only add that I do not believe that VV Putin will press the red button to destroy the whole world.
Firstly, there is more than one person making a decision, at least someone will jump off. And there are a lot of people there - there is no "one-man red button".

Much more at the link.

[COL Mustard]

49. You can't remove him from power

Without killing him. He would be back like the proverbial bad penny that he is.

[global1]

12. That's Eight More Inner Circle Enemies He's Made....

the walls are closing in on Putin. He's got to be worried about who he can trust.

[canetoad]

38. My thoughts exactly global1

Eight generals would be a nice little group to organise a coup or assassination.

[housecat]

72. YESS!!

[gordianot]

117. Not to mention the 2 major battlefield commanders already killed in the field.

It would be interesting to find out exactly how the died.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

14. Maybe Pootler wants a battlefield nuke.

[RockRaven]

15. "How dare you tell me, who has been killing and imprisoning everyone who disagrees and

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oppresses him for the last three decades, only what you think I want to hear? You're fired!"

[COL Mustard]

50. And by fired, I mean

Really fired, like Lil Kim does!

[reACTIONary]

16. Russian Head of State....

.... Go Fuck Yourself. Over.

[NNadir]

17. Going full Hitler now.

[JohnSJ]

18. Was trump one of the generals he fired?

[intrepidity]

25. I have the same question

There must be little doubt that Donald inadvertently fed Vlad bad info--perhaps even recently--about how Biden and the West would respond.

[Grokenstein]

27. Nah. dim donnie would never rank that high.

If there was a military rank for "office assistant/gofer" or "pet dog" dim donnie would rank just below that.

[tikka]

64. Putin probably tapped Rubio for information.

He's on the Senate intel committee.

[Cosmocat]

48. That one would be a mission accomplished

nm

[Blue Owl]

19. I bet that gave Diarrhea Donny a raging little mini-boner

[Jazz Jon]

21. Super

This is reminiscent of Hitler's actions when WWII started turning against Germany.

It took years for Hitler's Germany to to get to that point. Vladi-boy had made it there in just two weeks! A new record.

Let's hope Putrid shoots himself in a bunker very soon. Let's say... tomorrow.

Or maybe those fired generals can get together and start a coup d'etat.

[Irish_Dem]

41. Yes very much the same scenario. Hitler furious at his generals.

Calling them incompetent. Telling them how to conduct military maneuvers.

Refusing to listen to reports he does not want to hear.

Firing them or worse.

[FSogol]

22. Puti's mad that his yes-men told him yes! Take your shirt off and go to Ukraine.

I'm sure they'll throw roses at you.

[FarPoint]

23. This is the path Putin will take ....

Blame everything on someone else....his way out....so to speak...He actually wants out of this NOW....so the blame game begins...

[milestogo]

24. "You're Fired!"

[Stuart G]

28. Putin is tooting a .".Fig Newton"...Well, I tried..You can't win them all.!!

[ancianita]

29. So now are those eight generals now "free to go"?

[Irish_Dem]

44. In the Russian tradition, military personnel who embarrass Russia do not fare well. :(

[ancianita]

55. What does that Russian tradition entail? Demotion? Surveillance? Execution? All of those?

I imagine Putin's going to have not just a brain drain but a real military drain. I wonder how many generals he's actually got left to rebuild his military with.

[Irish_Dem]

71. Arrest for treason/ jail/ execution/ demotion or separation from service.

If they are lucky they only get demotion or thrown out of the military, loss of pension, house.

There are some rumors that the weak Russian military is due to the generals secretly embezzling the military budget. If this is true, we can imagine what Putin might do to them.

The use of fear and brutal tactics against Russian officials goes back to Stalin.

[Irish_Dem]

88. Just in. Putin jails RU foreign intelligence service director and assistant director.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216471013

[ancianita]

102. That's their payback for Putin putting himself in a bubble of yes men.

[Irish_Dem]

31. Three generals killed, eight fired.

Not a good situation in the middle of a war.

[nycbos]

33. Did it go something like this?

[Best_man23]

67. Probably went more like this

Just wondering how many of them chose to "avoid the red tape"?

[Bengus81]

35. Just like Hitler........

[Buckeyeblue]

36. I wonder if he thinks he was intentionally set up

I bet he is paranoid as hell. First the bad information and then the coup. I wonder how he eats and drinks? Or even sleeps?

Remember the words of Curt Cobain: just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

[Irish_Dem]

56. Yes. Quite possible he thinks he was set up. Because he does this all the time to others.

Because he is a narcissist and sociopath, it does not occur to him to blame himself or look inward. So he will look to blame others and suspect covert action because this is his own style.

Oh yes, this will increase his paranoia. But yes, it is not paranoia when people are actually out to get you.

[catchnrelease]

107. Interview with Fiona Hill

Russian policy expert Fiona Hill was on Stephen Colbert's show last week and she gave an interesting interview. One of the things she talked about was when she was at a dinner and was seated next to Putin. Colbert asked what it was like and what did he talk about. She said that the conversation was sparse and interestingly, Putin did not touch his food or drink. So he doesn't even trust his own people with his food etc.

[link:

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[Tetrachloride]

110. An additional reason is to not show weakness by eating in front of others

[Buckeyeblue]

111. Maybe he doesn't eat. Maybe it's all protein shakes and supplements

There is many businesses that essentially offer supplements that replace food. It's all about extending life spans, etc. Putin may be on some strange diet that he thinks will allow him to live to be 150 or something.

[Talitha]

37. Fired them out of a window, I suppose.

"... informed him that Ukraine was weak, and would roll over once attacked."

Wow - if he believed that about the Ukranian people, he's REALLY stupid.

[Mawspam2]

39. Vladolf Putler - GOOD ONE 😉

Consider it stolen.

[prodigitalson]

42. "the Russian leader is fuming over reports handed to him prior to the invasion which informed him

that Ukraine is weak"

[doc03]

43. Sounds like Trump you give him bad

news off to Siberia.

[lagomorph777]

45. Well, isn't that special?

The implosion has already begun.

[LudwigPastorius]

46. Putin firing his generals:

[getagrip_already]

78. with extreme prejudice.... n/t

[ToxMarz]

47. So no pressure at all on the new presumably less experienced

military leaders. They won't be acting desperately and makkng any mistakes /s.

[Hekate]

51. Tom the Dancing Bug says "augh"....

[maxrandb]

52. Maybe Donnie Dipshit can send him some of "his" generals

I would gladly give him Flynn, Kelly, Mattis, McMasters, hell give Putin Millie too (will never forgive, or forget him for being the first CJCS to be used as a political pawn in a photo op).

[maxrandb]

53. Becoming more like Donnie Dipshit everyday

or vice versa.

Did he call them "babies and losers"?

[getagrip_already]

80. easy now.....

you don't rise to general on just your willingness to betray your country.

A US general, even one of the ones you listed, could very well be a competent leader. We don't need to be giving them any help.

[C_U_L8R]

57. They didn't stop Putin in time

Now they'll hang for it.

Time is running out. Soon there won't be any leadership left to oust Putin from office.

[tclambert]

60. That's eight generals with free time to plan Putin's overthrow.

You know, if they are looking for a retirement hobby.

[LiberalFighter]

62. Replaced by what? Even more incompetents?

[olddad65]

63. Why? Did they not meet his requirement for being inhumane?

[3Hotdogs]

65. The guy who empty's the ash trays is now in line to take over planning.

Then we'll see how things are s'pose ta be done.

[Hulk]

66. He has to keep searching for more ruthless butchers of women and children

Maybe it is time to have him taken out.

[redstatebluegirl]

68. He is like little 45, he blames everyone else for is bad decisions.

[Crowman2009]

69. Hey fired generals! Now is the time to do what Romania did to Ceaușescu.

[Jim__]

70. Firing your generals - usually one of the last moves of an idiot.

[Samrob]

75. He know more than the Generals. Like someone else we know. nt

[SayItLoud]

76. TFG called him a genius.

Compared to the Slobfather (credit to another who came up with this moniker) Putin is a genius.

[EndlessWire]

77. If ever there was a time for it

now would be the time. When did he fire these generals?

I am not saying we should do it. My heart wants to, but my head is hesitant. But, if we were to intervene militarily on behalf of Ukraine, now would be the time. After he fires his staff, and before he uses chemicals or biologicals on the population. And, before he bullies Lukashenko into joining in. This, IMO, would be the moment.

If he uses chemicals on the population, I would take him on, and I would not stop at the Russian border. I'd free the freakin Russians, too. Would be messy for awhile, but later on, the world could relax and rebuild.

Just Russia, no one else. And, NATO never, ever did want to invade Russia. Look at what Putin has done.

[IronLionZion]

79. We should just skip to the suicide in the bunker part

Why wait?

[C Moon]

81. I think those generals don't want to use biological weapons.

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(should have read the article before comment: that’s 8 since the start of the war. I thought it meant today).

[MineralMan]

82. Haha!

[orangecrush]

83. He's cracking up

Hope someone over there can put the brakes on him like the military here did Trump.

[H2O Man]

84. Recommended.

What a pathetic dick-dripping Putin is. Like his lap dog Trump, he always blames and punishes others for his mistakes.

[MineralMan]

86. Or, perhaps, they told Putin not to do something

He wanted to do. I hope that is not the case.

[DallasNE]

87. Same Problem Trump Faced And Same "Solution"

Trump worked everything backwards. His marching orders were based on the results he wanted so only yes men could apply. When the yes men were hapless and inept, they got fired. Putin is doing the same thing with the same results for the same reason.

[Skittles]

89. shouldn't it be CEDING instead of SEEDING

just curious

[AntiFascist]

100. or seeding him WITH the advice? n/t

[bluestarone]

90. TFG and pooty are two and the same!

We see NOW what America will be like IF TFG is ever back in politics! WOW just WOW!!!

[SleeplessinSoCal]

91. Remember Yakov Smirnov? Thought he could replace Puty.

Turns out he's from Ukraine!

Never mind.

[Evolve Dammit]

115. Would have been infinitely better as a leader

[machoneman]

96. Dead Men Walking!

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

97. Did it sound like this?

[SunSeeker]

104. Ah yes, mass firing of Generals. Great for military morale! Genius!

[Turbineguy]

106. Putin has entered the cannibal stage.

This may not last much longer.

I hope.

[COL Mustard]

108. If I were the Russian Minister of Defense

I would be very concerned for my future. Sergei Shoigu, that means you!

[bucolic_frolic]

109. Not kicked upstairs, not retired, not replaced ... fired ... it's a Russian Purge

[Martin68]

112. Has this been reported anywhere else? How reliable is it?

[AntiFascist]

118. This is according to Oleksiy Danilov, the head of Ukraine's security council...

as reported by UK's "The Times". Also former British intelligence officer Philip Ingram. It's probably difficult to verify reports that come from intelligence sources.

[Martin68]

120. Thanks. That sounds more authoritative than "euroweeklynews.com."

[AntiFascist]

121. The Times website unfortunately has a paywall...

so I have to post stories quoting them instead of stories from the site itself.

[Martin68]

129. Thanks for the explanation.

[DippyDem]

113. I doubt the new generals will do a good job for worthless rubles. NT

[WinstonSmith4740]

119. Good.

Maybe those eight will realize he no longer has any power over them, and they don't owe him anything. He's destroying Russia while commiting genocide. Now's their chance to be real patriots and save their country from a madman. Just sayin' there is a solution to this problem, and it has to come from the Russian people. Russian generals tried to depose Gorbachev and the Russian people handed them their butts. I think they'll support them if the generals decide Putin has to spend more time with his family. They just need to stay away from tall buildings and not drink the tea.

[Kablooie]

130. When you don't allow intel reports you don't want to hear...

This is what you get.

[Kablooie]

131. I would think they would be relieved to be relieved.

This is certainly a war they didn’t want and weer not allowed to properly prepare for.
As long as the firing doesn’t include the filtering squad.

[ck4829]

135. Kick