Army General Fired, Loses a Star After 'Counterproductive' Leadership

[Zorro]

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Source: Military.com

One of the Army's top logistics officers was fired and demoted after an inspector general investigation found he conducted "counterproductive leadership behaviors," the service announced.

Maj. Gen. Duane Gamble, formerly a three-star general, was investigated over allegations of racist behavior during his time as deputy chief of staff for logistics, a position commonly referred to as the G-4.

That investigation found that Gamble did not discriminate on the basis of race, but he still received a general officer memorandum of reprimand, or GOMOR, over leadership issues, according to Cynthia Smith, an Army spokesperson. GOMORs are largely seen as automatic career killers for officers and are rarely handed out to top leadership. It's unclear whether Gamble will be able to retire at his previous three-star rank, which he earned in September 2019.

Smith noted that Gamble's subordinates were "satisfied with his leadership," despite it being "counterproductive."

Read more: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/04/06/army-general-fired-loses-star-after-counterproductive-leadership.html

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Sounds like he must have carried on like an asshole.

[TomSlick]

1. Thus endeth another "brilliant" military career.

If have never understood why GOs believe that being given a flag authorizes them to be stupid.

[tirebiter]

2. He'll probably retire with his rank

But lower rank for retirement pay.

[brush]

14. He's already been demoted from a 3-star general to a 2-star.

At the a tail end of the article at the link someone is quoted as saying that if he was a colonel, lt. colonel, major of captain he would've been separated from the army.

But because senior officers look out for each other he was allowed to stay in his position for a year while the investigation was going on, and his behavior was no secret for years before that.

At least his ass got demoted and he won't be getting a fourth star and continuing his racism.

[stopdiggin]

3. well that makes everything perfectly clear ...

wasn't racist - and subordinates 'satisfied' ...
So - was the guy coming to work in a speedo and flip-flops? A beanie and propeller? Glitter glue?
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[brush]

15. The article at the link goes into it. He regularly...

spoke in derogatory terms of Black general officers. The article makes that clear.

That sentence..."wasn't racist - and subordinates 'satisfied'...", is bullshit, an unnecessary attempt to placate. It shouldn't even be there. Some editor dropped the ball.

[GP6971]

4. Must have been

to be reduced in rank. That's a pretty serious action. Not unprecedented though...I served with a newly promoted 2 star who was reduced to 1 star after allegations for the same reason.

[plimsoll]

5. Comments from subordinates may mean absolutely nothing.

Depending on how they were collected.

[brush]

16. Exactly. At times subordinates suffer in silence or...

make statements that don't damage their own career chances. The article at the link makes that observation.

[H2O Man]

6. Recommended.

If he ends up touring with Michael Flynn, we'll know.

[dalton99a]

7. "He regularly made disparaging remarks about his Black general officer peers"

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-general-duane-gamble-suspended-toxic-climate/

[underpants]

9. Well that was an interesting read.

Thanks.

[Hamlette]

11. Interesting article, the comments are depressing

the examples in the article are offensive but the comments, all by people who don't know Gamble, say he didn't deserve the criticism and the one of the Black guys mentioned is the problem.

Sad.

[Phoenix61]

8. The obvious question is how did he get any stars.

He didn’t turn into a racist jerk when they pinned the third one on him.

[brush]

18. Good question. Guess rising through the ranks...

he was lower profile but once he got higher up his attitudes got magnified and other general officers, Black generals, his peers, didn't feel the need to have to bite their tongues about racism in their face.

They helped get his ass demoted and sent a message that he might as well retired because getting a GOMOR is a career killer.

[Bev54]

10. How is he fired and demoted?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. Stripped of command and demoted one star

His next command will be something less exciting than logistics. Which, since putZin's war, is a bunch more exciting than it ever was before. Always has been critical.

Undoubtedly he will be held up by the deplorables as an example of a "woke" military shooting itself in the foot.

[brush]

19. Yeah, and he's just the opposite of "woke."

[Emile]

13. The OP is not that clear what he did.

[intheflow]

17. Better info in this article:

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/army-general-duane-gamble-suspended-toxic-climate/

Three sources who spoke with Task & Purpose, including a recently retired Army colonel, described a harmful work environment which one source described as “racist and toxic.” The general was known to frequently degrade subordinates and peers alike, and regularly made inappropriate comments during staff meetings. This article is based on interviews with those three sources, all of whom have direct knowledge of Gamble’s remarks and the culture within the G-4 office, as well as documents and emails outlining the allegations against Gamble while he served as one of the Army’s most senior logisticians.

[Ray Bruns]

20. But he had a black friend so he can't be racist.

[Omaha Steve]

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