George W. Bush meets virtually with Zelensky

[Calista241]

Source: Axios

Former President George W. Bush confirmed on Twitter on Thursday that he'd had a video call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, whom he praised as "the Winston Churchill of our time."

Why it matters: The meeting makes Bush the first known former U.S. president to speak with Zelensky since the start of the war.

What they're saying: "President Zelensky assured me that they will not waver in their fight against Putin’s barbarism and thuggery," Bush added in an Instagram post. "Americans are inspired by their fortitude and resilience."

"We will continue to stand with Ukrainians as they stand up for their freedom."

The big picture: Back in February, Bush condemned Russia's attack on Ukraine and urged the American government to throw its full support behind Ukraine.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/2022/05/05/george-w-bush-zelensky-meet

[OAITW r.2.0]

1. Profile in Courage. nt

[Martin68]

2. George seems to be making amends. I believe in rehabilitation.

[MOMFUDSKI]

3. You

are killing me.

[BradAllison]

4. He's probably feeling pretty good this week

Seeing his buddy Alito just fucked this country for the whole issue he put him there for.

[Martin68]

5. He's a frat boy dumbass who may have learned from his many, many egregious mistakes. I believe in

redemption.

[Grasswire2]

7. even a frat boy dumbass

must know that he is responsible for god only knows how many deaths and how much injury are on his hands -- how many American families suffered loss and permanent scarring? How many brown people?

His ppl LIED us to war.
His ppl TORTURED in war crimes.

For oil, and for power, and for profit.

[Skittles]

14. people are STILL DYING because of BUSH INC

he can GO TO HELL

[LudwigPastorius]

17. This country still hasn't reaped what Bush sowed in Iraq.

He created generations of people who will make it their goal in life to seek revenge for their families and friends who were killed by the U.S. military under his order.

So, for being a mass murderer, for fucking the security of this country, for torture, for the illegal surveillance, for the indifference that facilitated the worst terrorist attack in our history, for the lies, for the Patriot Act, for Cheney, for John Roberts & Samuel Alito, for all of it...damn him.

If there's a god, s/he might forgive him, but I never will.

[quakerboy]

24. lemmie know when he does anything useful or redemptive

a former president talking to a foriegn leader is not redemptive, its irrelevant. Unless hes pulling strings to get his "Contractor" friends in country fighting for ukraine or something similar.

[NYC Liberal]

43. "frat boy dumbass" -- LOL, he was almost 60 when he became president.

[Martin68]

44. Bush never grew up. He's still a frat boy.

[Skittles]

13. fuck that warmongering piece of fucking SHIT

FUCK HIM ALL TO HELL AND BACK

[cayugafalls]

20. [phone] Never said better. Fuck that fucking fuck.

[Skittles]

23. there is NOTHING he can do to "rehabilitate" himself

the man STARTED A WAR BASED ON LIES, it truly does not get worse than that - and the fact that he and the rest of the sociopaths in his cabinet were never held accountable makes it all the more SICKENING

[littlemissmartypants]

26. Yep. When you decide to bomb the Cradle of Civilization I'd say you're done as a human.

[Carlitos Brigante]

39. While we're at it. He also foisted that bag of shit Alito on the rest of us. nt

[Skittles]

45. aw, fuck

I was in England when that shitshow election occurred - Brits who knew I lived in Texas would ask me what I thought of him - I said, he will be your worst nightmare.......it will be WAR AND A CRASHED ECONOMY - how fucking right was I?

[cayugafalls]

19. It is the BFEE that is finally trying to realize the fascist takeover of the U.S. F**k Bush.

All this fascist bullshit started long ago with Prescott Bush and his cronies...

There is no redemption if you were one of the conspirators and bumbler toady for the elite fascist pukes.

[Martin Eden]

32. I believe in justice

Prison for war crimes first, then rehabilitation.

[Achilleaze]

33. Too damn late

[Ford_Prefect]

6. W may have done a few of the right things now and then. He still owes the world

for unleashing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I remember his mendacity during the campaign, how his service records just disappeared, how he kettled the press and protestors during his inaugural parade.

[Grasswire2]

10. I have recently reconnected with Paul Lukasiac -- on twitter now

Remember Paul? He is the fellow who doggedly pursued the facts of W's AWOL during time of war. Absence from duty.

The news of the AWOL nearly broke on the Friday before the election. Many of us had been desperately trying to break it, in touch with media outlets and members of Congress.

On that Friday, Senator Bob Kerrey had called a press conference to publicly ask George W. Bush to explain his absence of duty during war.

Karl Rove blew that out of the water by feeding the W. old DUI story to someone at FOX News. Rove had a special talent for seizing the news narrative with the assistance of FOX. We never heard about the DUI story in the media before Tuesday election.

Here is a link to old discussions on DU about Lukasiak's work.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=103&topic_id=67859&mesg_id=67859

[Ford_Prefect]

28. At the time and since there were allegations of alcoholism and drug use made.

I could not track the sources of those speculations but the story was consistent.

I personally believe W had at least a drinking problem during that period. What convinced me that something like that had happened was the degree of avoidance and misdirection which shrouded any questions raised about that period in his career, along with the complete disappearance of records and witnesses.

I have no doubt whatever that until TFG came on the scene W and his neo-con cronies were the most corrupt administration by far, as well as the worst for America in terms of transparency and Civil Rights.

[olddad65]

8. Bush owes a lot to trump. Prior to trump, Bush was the worst president ever.

[zipplewrath]

9. He should be careful

It would be a "fair trade" to allow him to be tried as a war criminal, so that we can also try Putin as one. We invaded Iraq with as much justification as Putin had for invading Ukraine. He might actually "get off" in a court, but Putin doesn't have a prayer.

[Bev54]

11. Why???

[Skittles]

15. yes

WTF did Zelensky ever do to deserve THAT?

[Ferrets are Cool]

12. Hey bud, let me tell ya bout that time "I" invaded a country for no reason.

It was a hoot. Oh, btw, I killed a bunch of civilians too.

Fuck GWB

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

16. How long before TFG tries to do the same thing?

To his way of thinking, as former -- or current -- president he is a senior statesman, and his opinions are important to the world, and he cannot be ignored.

Besides, he has a close personal relationship with both leaders, so who would be better to make a deal to end this activity?

"Only I can fix it."

I may be wrong, but didn't Trump make a call to his BFF when this crap began? He did it from the patio at Mar-A-Lego, so that everyone could see how important he still was.

[LudwigPastorius]

18. Trump already had his virtual Zelensky meeting.

You remember, the one in which he withheld military aid in an attempt to get some manufactured smear material.

[cayugafalls]

21. Fuck Bush. So what if he is feeling remorseful, he was the chief toady that led us to perpetual war.

I will bet you money that his crinkly old ass is first on the list of the rethug sex/coke orgies.

Excuse me while I go bleach my brain, that image is disgusting.

[PoliticAverse]

22. Zelensky practicing how to deal with someone who invaded another country under false pretenses?

[DFW]

25. Well, on the one hand, it's good that a former Republican president who is compos mentis (sorta)

.....is saying something most Republicans are too cowardly to say.

On the other hand, when he apologizes for letting Dick Cheney take over his presidency for about 90% of its duration, THEN I'll be impressed. But apologies are a rare commodity in Washington. Of the six Democratic Senators who ran for President two years ago, five of them happily helped hound Al Franken out of the Senate, and none of them have apologized. Obviously, it's a different scale altogether, causing a few hundred thousand deaths and wrecking the US budget, but I have learned not to expect public apologies from government figures for anything, be it wrecking their own colleagues or wrecking the country's future for twenty years. Once someone is ensconced in Washington, the capacity apparently just fades from their DNA.

[PSPS]

27. I agree with W that Zelensky is "the Winston Churchill of our time."

[Emile]

29. Coming from a guy that invaded the wrong country after Saudi's attacked us

must be comforting to Zelensky.

[Martin Eden]

30. GW Bush is a war criminal

He belongs in prison, not basking in the sunlight as some kind of honored elder statesman.

This makes me want to

[Martin Eden]

31. Here's what I wanted to say to Bush, right to his face:

I'd tell you to go fuck yourself
But that is much too kind
If you could perform that feat
You'd take pleasure in your behind

I'd like to say eat shit and die
But you deserve much more
You should suffer all the grief and pain
Of your misbegotten war

Though I can never make you think
Or feel, or understand
I'll take solace when you hear your name
Cursed throughout the land

From inside a lonely prison cell
Dark and bare and cold
Where every day you pay for your crimes
Until you're sick, heartbroken, and old

Then when you finally leave this earth
You fucked over oh so well
If there is a God and afterlife
You're going straight to hell.

[raccoon]

40. Thank you for sharing that with us. Do you have another one for Trump? Nt

[Martin Eden]

41. Not yet

Hoping to end it with a verse about his actual demise (sooner the better).

[oldsoftie]

34. Just imagine where UKR would be if Trump was president. The horror.

[Gore1FL]

35. Let's hope he didn't provide him with strategic advice. nt

[myohmy2]

36. the chimp's...

...rehabilitating himself...

...WMD vs. Hitler was a Jew...

...hmmm...

[hamsterjill]

37. Serious question.

Why? What is to be gained by Zelensky giving Bush any time?

[maxsolomon]

42. Exactly what I asked as well.

Does Bush Jr. have some pull with some notional non-insane portion of the GQP that is needed to provide more military aid?

Influence with foreign leaders that Ukraine needs the support of?

Is Zelenskyy just talking to anyone?

[Aristus]

38. "Another country invaded yours unprovoked?

Wow man, that really sucks! Nobody I know would do something like that! That’s just fuzzy politics! You got my support, Mr. Zootsuitinsky!”