Thu May 12, 2022, 06:13 PM
yaesu (7,149 posts)
Senator Rand Paul Blocks $39.8 Billion Ukraine Aid Bill
Source: C-span
Sen. Paul blocks passage of the $39.8B House-passed Ukraine aid package saying, "My oath of office is to the U.S. Constitution, not to any foreign nation..." The objection comes after remarks from Majority Leader Schumer & Minority Leader McConnell. Read more: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5014864/senator-rand-paul-blocks-398-billion-ukraine-aid-bill
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yaesu | May 12 | OP |
Skittles | May 12 | #1 | |
madaboutharry | May 12 | #2 | |
Peregrine Took | May 12 | #10 | |
Mickju | May 12 | #37 | |
lastlib | May 12 | #53 | |
Mickju | May 13 | #70 | |
lastlib | May 12 | #54 | |
mwooldri | May 13 | #55 | |
cstanleytech | May 13 | #59 | |
madaboutharry | May 13 | #60 | |
bucolic_frolic | May 12 | #3 | |
TheRealNorth | May 12 | #4 | |
HUAJIAO | May 12 | #5 | |
C Moon | May 12 | #6 | |
RussBLib | May 12 | #16 | |
C Moon | May 13 | #58 | |
yellowdogintexas | May 13 | #61 | |
C Moon | May 13 | #64 | |
blue-wave | May 13 | #62 | |
DippyDem | May 12 | #7 | |
Irish_Dem | May 12 | #8 | |
Evolve Dammit | May 12 | #20 | |
Irish_Dem | May 12 | #21 | |
Evolve Dammit | May 12 | #44 | |
Irish_Dem | May 12 | #45 | |
dem4decades | May 12 | #22 | |
Irish_Dem | May 12 | #24 | |
Gore1FL | May 12 | #9 | |
AllaN01Bear | May 12 | #11 | |
spudspud | May 12 | #12 | |
Historic NY | May 12 | #13 | |
smb | May 12 | #18 | |
WVreaper | May 12 | #34 | |
ashredux | May 12 | #14 | |
zanana1 | May 13 | #68 | |
CloudWatcher | May 12 | #15 | |
brush | May 12 | #17 | |
CloudWatcher | May 12 | #19 | |
brush | May 12 | #27 | |
BumRushDaShow | May 12 | #39 | |
dem4decades | May 12 | #23 | |
dem4decades | May 12 | #25 | |
Submariner | May 12 | #26 | |
Blue Owl | May 12 | #28 | |
SWBTATTReg | May 12 | #29 | |
ColinC | May 12 | #30 | |
ZonkerHarris | May 12 | #31 | |
Budi | May 12 | #32 | |
wryter2000 | May 12 | #33 | |
BumRushDaShow | May 12 | #41 | |
LetMyPeopleVote | May 12 | #35 | |
machoneman | May 13 | #67 | |
turbinetree | May 12 | #36 | |
karin_sj | May 12 | #38 | |
BumRushDaShow | May 12 | #42 | |
yaesu | May 12 | #47 | |
BumRushDaShow | May 12 | #49 | |
EndlessWire | May 12 | #40 | |
truthisfreedom | May 12 | #43 | |
Golden Raisin | May 12 | #46 | |
Trust_Reality | May 13 | #56 | |
DallasNE | May 12 | #48 | |
Trust_Reality | May 13 | #57 | |
LetMyPeopleVote | May 12 | #50 | |
2Gingersnaps | May 12 | #51 | |
dlk | May 12 | #52 | |
blue-wave | May 13 | #63 | |
RayStar | May 13 | #65 | |
David__77 | May 13 | #66 | |
DFW | May 13 | #69 | |
SouthernDem4ever | May 14 | #71 |
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:15 PM
Skittles (143,092 posts)
1. LOLOL
so of course he is in favor of Biden's infrastructure bill - yes?
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Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:15 PM
madaboutharry (37,976 posts)
2. Has there ever been a bigger asshole than this guy?
At the very least he is high up on the list.
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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #2)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:33 PM
Peregrine Took (6,833 posts)
10. Hmmmmm.....let me think.......I say.......not even close!!!
Has anyone else noticed his extremely lowlife appearance lately?
I saw him "speaking" last week and he looked like he just rolled out of the gutter - very unkempt, actually looked seedy. |
Response to madaboutharry (Reply #2)
Thu May 12, 2022, 08:08 PM
Mickju (1,529 posts)
37. He's a total dick.
Response to Mickju (Reply #37)
Thu May 12, 2022, 11:20 PM
lastlib (19,553 posts)
53. Nah, he's just foreskin--not big enough to be a full dick.
Last edited Fri May 13, 2022, 06:34 PM - Edit history (1) Could we trade him to Russia for Britney Griner, along with a spy to be named later?
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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #2)
Thu May 12, 2022, 11:22 PM
lastlib (19,553 posts)
54. Only Jesse Helms....and Moscow Mitch.
Response to madaboutharry (Reply #2)
Fri May 13, 2022, 12:32 AM
mwooldri (9,990 posts)
55. Only the guy that Al Franken likes more than the Republicans.
That being Ted Cancun Cruz. And Al hates Ted Cruz.
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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #2)
Fri May 13, 2022, 01:26 AM
cstanleytech (23,787 posts)
59. You mean other than Trump?
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #59)
Fri May 13, 2022, 01:28 AM
madaboutharry (37,976 posts)
60. Yes, that's a given!
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Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:16 PM
bucolic_frolic (31,932 posts)
3. Empty words are not a denial
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:18 PM
TheRealNorth (5,712 posts)
4. When the money that could be generated by the Military-Industrial Complex....
Isn't enough, then you really know that the Treason runs deep.
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Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:18 PM
HUAJIAO (2,027 posts)
5. A hypocritical, evil human being !!!
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:22 PM
C Moon (10,786 posts)
6. And don't forget this: Rand Paul's comments on Russian invasion criticized as echoing Putin's point
Sen. Rand Paul got flak Tuesday for his comments on the Russian invasion of Ukraine, with some people criticizing him for echoing one of Russian President Vladimir Putin's talking points.
During an exchange with U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Paul pointed out that Russia's attacks, in the recent past, have been on countries that were once part of the Soviet Union. Putin publicly has dismissed Ukraine's right to function as a sovereign nation separate from Russia. https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/rand-paul/2022/04/26/kentucky-sen-rand-paul-criticized-over-russian-invasion-comments/9542612002/ |
Response to C Moon (Reply #6)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:46 PM
RussBLib (5,765 posts)
16. somebody tear him a new asshole!
I mean a Democratic Senator. Or a Republican Senator would be even better.
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Response to RussBLib (Reply #16)
Fri May 13, 2022, 01:19 AM
C Moon (10,786 posts)
58. Rand Paul was also one of the 8 idiots who kissed putin's feet by visiting russia on July 4th.
putin belittled them further by not even showing up.
Americans (left and right) need to wake up and quit voting for these bought and paid for politicians, lest we lose our country to the rich. I actually have lost hope, but will keep voting and doing what I can. |
Response to C Moon (Reply #58)
Fri May 13, 2022, 01:51 AM
yellowdogintexas (19,118 posts)
61. He was not on the 2018 trip (was there another one I did not know about)?
But the list is predictable
he GOP lawmakers, Sen. Richard Shelby (Ala.), Steve Daines (Mont.), John Thune (S.D.), John Kennedy (La.), Jerry Moran (Kan.) and John Hoeven (N.D.), and Rep. Kay Granger (R-Texas), spent July 4 in Moscow’s U.S. Embassy, NPR reported. I do know my Congressional Rep is Kay Granger. When I was searching for info on the trip and found this article. I was not expecting what I read. https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-senators-tell-contradictory-stories-about-moscow-trip |
Response to yellowdogintexas (Reply #61)
Fri May 13, 2022, 03:27 AM
C Moon (10,786 posts)
64. So sorry. You're correct. I guess I was thinking of when he delivered a letter to putin from trump.
Apologies.
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Response to RussBLib (Reply #16)
Fri May 13, 2022, 02:05 AM
blue-wave (3,158 posts)
62. Maybe he can spend a night with
Madison Cawthorn.
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Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:24 PM
DippyDem (631 posts)
7. Lying fuck. he has allegiance to Ruzzia!
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:27 PM
Irish_Dem (24,137 posts)
8. His allegiance is to Putin.
Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #8)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:54 PM
Evolve Dammit (9,910 posts)
20. Indeed. He hand-carried private letters from the Orange One to Vlad personally. Wonder why??
Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #20)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:55 PM
Irish_Dem (24,137 posts)
21. Trump disclosing classified info is my guess.
Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #21)
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:13 PM
Evolve Dammit (9,910 posts)
44. via Rand Fucking Traitor Paul
Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #44)
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:22 PM
Irish_Dem (24,137 posts)
45. So that is why Putin owns Rand Paul.
Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #8)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:55 PM
dem4decades (9,299 posts)
22. Doesn't Russia fund one of his and his father's groups? Least that's what i
Remember
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Response to dem4decades (Reply #22)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:57 PM
Irish_Dem (24,137 posts)
24. Also one of Rand Paul's was found to have funneled Russian money
into campaigns, including Trump's.
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Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:32 PM
Gore1FL (19,551 posts)
9. I guess he just wanted to vote...
I'm guessing they have well above he 50 they need. He's simply being Rand Paul.
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Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:34 PM
AllaN01Bear (8,874 posts)
11. and the rs were screaming at prez biden to do something. and they pull this nonsense.
so, why did u and yr buddies goto russia on the 4th rather than stay here dear sir?
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Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:38 PM
spudspud (387 posts)
12. He's a Russian asset. /nt
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:45 PM
Historic NY (35,388 posts)
13. Yup Rand Paul is a Russian ass-et
Response to Historic NY (Reply #13)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:51 PM
smb (3,006 posts)
18. Rand! Stop Sticking Your Head Up Putrid's Ass! Look What It Does To Your Hair!! nt
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:45 PM
ashredux (1,858 posts)
14. Follow the fucking 💰!!!!
Response to ashredux (Reply #14)
Fri May 13, 2022, 09:33 AM
zanana1 (5,230 posts)
68. All this time I thought that icon was a finger!
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:46 PM
CloudWatcher (1,372 posts)
15. Tyranny of the minority
Every day I think less and less of the Senate as an institution that deserves any respect.
How undemocratic can it get? How non-functional? How not representative of the will of the people? The Electoral College isn't the only thing that should be discarded. |
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:47 PM
brush (41,518 posts)
17. Isthat final? Is there a workarond that jerk?
Response to brush (Reply #17)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:51 PM
CloudWatcher (1,372 posts)
19. Not final, just slows things down
Despite the high-profile pressure from the two leaders, Paul refused to blink, meaning that Schumer will need to take procedural steps to overcome his objection, which could take several days, but will ultimately lead to passage of the supplemental spending bill sometime next week.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/12/politics/rand-paul-blocks-ukraine-aid/index.html |
Response to CloudWatcher (Reply #19)
Thu May 12, 2022, 07:02 PM
brush (41,518 posts)
27. Good. Thank you.
Response to brush (Reply #27)
Thu May 12, 2022, 08:46 PM
BumRushDaShow (96,397 posts)
39. They were probably trying to do a "unanimous consent" motion to pass that funding
and he was right there to "object". So now they'll have to go through the whole "regular process".
I remember the ass Tom Coburn would do that all the time - appear out of nowhere for "unanimous consent" requests - notably for funding bills, and would "object". ![]() One-Man Gridlock: Meet Tom Coburn, Senate's 'Dr. No'
By Sarah Lueck Dec. 21, 2007 11:59 pm ET WASHINGTON -- On Tuesday afternoon, when most senators were preparing to leave Washington for the holiday recess, Tom Coburn was declaring his intention to stick around. "The floor's going to be open," said the 59-year-old Oklahoma Republican. "I'm going to have to be here...to try to stop stuff." Stopping stuff is Sen. Coburn's specialty. In a Congress that has had trouble passing even the simplest legislation, Sen. Coburn, who proudly wears the nickname "Dr. No,'' is a one-man gridlock machine. This year, the senator, who indeed is a medical doctor, single-handedly blocked or slowed more than 90 bills, driving lawmakers on both sides of the aisle to distraction. He blocked a ban on genetic discrimination by health insurers. He thwarted a bill to set up a program to track patients with Lou Gehrig's disease. Also nixed: an effort to promote safe Internet use by children and a resolution to honor the late environmentalist Rachel Carson on the 100th anniversary of her birth. A bill that would authorize government mapping of the ocean floor and coastal areas? No way. One that would require more data collection on the availability and quality of broadband service? Uh-uh. If Dr. Coburn had his way, there would be no new funding for a Justice Department office to investigate unsolved Civil Rights-era killings, no promotion of wild-land firefighter safety. Sometimes, Dr. Coburn, an obstetrician who sees patients one morning a week, disagrees with the proposals. As a fiscal conservative, he usually objects to what he sees as excess spending. Sometimes, he just wants to force a debate or improve on items that would otherwise fly through the Senate. In a crowded legislative calendar, not everything gets the scrutiny voters might imagine. Dr. Coburn's weapon of choice is the "hold," a procedural maneuver that allows a single senator to prevent a bill from being passed quickly without a roll-call vote or floor debate. Until a rule change this year, senators could keep their holds secret, and they usually did. Dr. Coburn notifies colleagues about his intentions. (snip) https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB119820693514244309 That idiot did it with the "Pigford II" appropriations, slowing the process of getting court-ordered, Congressionally-approved funding to black farmers left out of the previous Pigford I payments. |
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:56 PM
dem4decades (9,299 posts)
23. I'm sick of the Senate.
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Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:59 PM
Submariner (11,919 posts)
26. Biden should award Medal of Freedom to the neighbor who smacked Paul
and expunge his criminal record.
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Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 07:02 PM
Blue Owl (39,972 posts)
28. Putin's toilet licker
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 07:02 PM
SWBTATTReg (17,695 posts)
29. Nothing else to say other than calling him a traitor to his face. No other excuse. NT
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 07:09 PM
ColinC (5,357 posts)
30. And by "US Constitution", he of course means Russia.
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 07:13 PM
ZonkerHarris (20,657 posts)
31. How is this Democracy?
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 07:22 PM
Budi (15,199 posts)
32. Excuse me Rand, but that foreign nation is here.
And you helped roll out that red carpet for them.
Not suprised that you'd vote to withhold $$$ assistance to keep RU from collapsing. Admit it Rand, you're really cheering for Putin. |
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 07:31 PM
wryter2000 (43,219 posts)
33. how can they do this?
I understand a filibuster, but one asshole Senator blocking what both parties want? Can't they vote to proceed over his objections? Whatever rule he's using has to be changed.
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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #33)
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:00 PM
BumRushDaShow (96,397 posts)
41. I posted upthread
that when you have bills like this that have overwhelmingly passed the House and come over to the Senate and are known to be highly popular and would probably pass by a large margin in the Senate, then the Majority Leader will usually bring those types up at the end of a session before adjourning for the day, and will "ask for unanimous consent" to automatically pass "such-and-such" bill(s), and the assigned Senate Pro-temp will usually respond "without objection", UNLESS some idiot like the SPAWN OF RON PAUL "objects".
And then at that point, there is a process where said SPAWN may demand "more information" and "responses to questions" that he has and whatnot to slow it all down. Eventually when he gets his info he "releases" his hold, they will do some rudimentary debate, and will often go through the formal vote (usually a roll call when you have asses doing it to slow stuff down). Carnival Cruz has done his share of these "holds" as well. |
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 07:40 PM
LetMyPeopleVote (111,615 posts)
35. Rand Paul can only slow this bill down
The bill will be adopted some time early next week
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Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #35)
Fri May 13, 2022, 09:12 AM
machoneman (2,833 posts)
67. Methinks this was actually a good thing. Putting Paul on the spot, making him declare on the...
..Senate floor his allegiance to his master, Putin. Look, we have already shipped and delivered tons of pricey military gear and other needed items. A few days delay now to turn out this traitor to democratic principles is worth it.
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Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 07:45 PM
turbinetree (22,878 posts)
36. Ukraine wouldn't be in this mess or Europe and the NATO Alliance if this twit would have
voted to remove the asshole that was trying to blackmail a country....kind a has his constitutional priorities mixed up....again how did he get elected....oh that's right his daddy and that last name and the libertataian BS ....
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Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 08:22 PM
karin_sj (654 posts)
38. I don't get it
How can a single republican senator stop a bill or package from passing? And if they are able to do that so successfully, why didn't any of our senators stop any of Trump's horrible bills when the repukes were in power?
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Response to karin_sj (Reply #38)
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:04 PM
BumRushDaShow (96,397 posts)
42. What he did was block a "unanimous consent" to pass the bill
and put a "hold" on it.
Democrats have done the same when the GOP was trying to ram their crap through that way - assuming they were willing to hang around and wait for the unanimous consent requests to occur - usually done before adjourning for the day. |
Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #42)
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:40 PM
yaesu (7,149 posts)
47. Putting anything on hold that will help prevent a country from being destroyed is a dangerous game
hours delay could lead to 100's of deaths. Fascists like Paul are dangerous to US and the world.
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Response to yaesu (Reply #47)
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:46 PM
BumRushDaShow (96,397 posts)
49. He has (almost) always been against "foreign entanglements"
as a pseudo-Libertarian (unless it suits him).
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Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 08:57 PM
EndlessWire (3,946 posts)
40. Wow, what an asshole.
He thinks that the US operates in a vacuum. He forgets how Trump effed around in Ukraine trying to get political favor. And, now he wants to stick it to Ukraine over the budget, like he's a caped crusador or something. Eff him.
He wiped his nose and then wiped his thumb on his lapel. Ewwww!! I loved Schumer constantly referring to him as the "Junior Senator." And, even as much as I despise McConnell, his speech was perfectly reasonable. Both sides are wanting this aid to go through NOW. Only this tiny little child pretending to care about the country is holding things up. Paul has no concept of war or what it means to the security of Europe, and no ability to look ahead and see what it means to America. What a jerk. |
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:10 PM
truthisfreedom (22,658 posts)
43. F$cking commie pinko
Check his sock color.
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Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:27 PM
Golden Raisin (4,298 posts)
46. Send up a flare when the the folks in Kentucky
stop electing and re-electing Rand Paul AND Mitch McConnell. Two of the absolute worst.
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Response to Golden Raisin (Reply #46)
Fri May 13, 2022, 12:36 AM
Trust_Reality (1,629 posts)
56. Yes! What the hell is the matter with the people of Kentucky???
They keep electing these two guys.
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Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:45 PM
DallasNE (7,107 posts)
48. Senate Rules Make It A Dysfunctional Body
And it weakens America as a result. Yes, we have many problems and biggest one right now is what happens in Urkraine and that mean they need emergency funding. That the Senate has rules that lock in minority control of that body criples our nation. That 1 man can issue a "hold" that prevent a bill from coming to the floor is assinine in the extreme. Couple that with the filibuster and the body is dysfunctional. Then, in this case, you have a politician that has received dirty, dark money from Russia which makes him compromised as a Russian asset, handing Putin a win for his investment money. Treason is not too harsh of word to describe the actions of Rand Paul here. And it is past time that Holds are eliminated in the Senate.
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Response to DallasNE (Reply #48)
Fri May 13, 2022, 12:38 AM
Trust_Reality (1,629 posts)
57. Indeed. The Senate is really screwed up.
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:59 PM
LetMyPeopleVote (111,615 posts)
50. Rand Paul is a total disgrace
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 10:20 PM
2Gingersnaps (911 posts)
51. Thought he was pinch hitting for tRumPutin......
"Duty to the Constitution," if there were an omnipotent, omnipresent God in Heaven he would have been struck by lightening.
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Response to yaesu (Original post)
Thu May 12, 2022, 11:16 PM
dlk (9,323 posts)
52. Gotta earn those rubles...
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Fri May 13, 2022, 02:11 AM
blue-wave (3,158 posts)
63. Rand Paul is a Russian lacky
If he were for his "oath of office is to the U.S. constitution" he would realize that the constitution is under attack by the likes of Putin and the Trumptards. He loves Pooty and what he stands for, which is the destruction of everything that seemingly threatens his/their power. How did we ever regress to have so many anti-Americans in our congress? Will the insanity ever stop?
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Response to yaesu (Original post)
Fri May 13, 2022, 07:46 AM
RayStar (385 posts)
65. What
is his problem?
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Response to yaesu (Original post)
Fri May 13, 2022, 08:53 AM
David__77 (21,040 posts)
66. I hope there is thorough review and discussion.
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Response to yaesu (Original post)
Fri May 13, 2022, 01:30 PM
DFW (47,275 posts)
69. OMG, it is indeed right there in the Constitution
47th Amendment, article XXIV
"No sitting Senator in the employ of a hostile foreign power shall vote to authorize material aid to an enemy of that power, provided that the Senator is a proven asshole." Yep. he's loyal to the Constitution, alright. Well, THAT version of it anyway. I'm not sure that Amendment was ever ratified, though.... |
Response to yaesu (Original post)
Sat May 14, 2022, 09:46 AM
SouthernDem4ever (691 posts)
71. So when will Rand Paul move to Russia
He is more loyal to Russia than the U.S. Disgusting POS.
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