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yaesu

(8,020 posts)
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:13 PM May 2022

Senator Rand Paul Blocks $39.8 Billion Ukraine Aid Bill

Source: C-span

Sen. Paul blocks passage of the $39.8B House-passed Ukraine aid package saying, "My oath of office is to the U.S. Constitution, not to any foreign nation..." The objection comes after remarks from Majority Leader Schumer & Minority Leader McConnell.

Read more: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5014864/senator-rand-paul-blocks-398-billion-ukraine-aid-bill

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Senator Rand Paul Blocks $39.8 Billion Ukraine Aid Bill (Original Post) yaesu May 2022 OP
LOLOL Skittles May 2022 #1
Has there ever been a bigger asshole than this guy? madaboutharry May 2022 #2
Hmmmmm.....let me think.......I say.......not even close!!! Peregrine Took May 2022 #10
He's a total dick. Mickju May 2022 #37
Nah, he's just foreskin--not big enough to be a full dick. lastlib May 2022 #53
Great idea! Mickju May 2022 #70
Only Jesse Helms....and Moscow Mitch. lastlib May 2022 #54
Only the guy that Al Franken likes more than the Republicans. mwooldri May 2022 #55
You mean other than Trump? cstanleytech May 2022 #59
Yes, that's a given! madaboutharry May 2022 #60
Empty words are not a denial bucolic_frolic May 2022 #3
When the money that could be generated by the Military-Industrial Complex.... TheRealNorth May 2022 #4
A hypocritical, evil human being !!! HUAJIAO May 2022 #5
And don't forget this: Rand Paul's comments on Russian invasion criticized as echoing Putin's point C Moon May 2022 #6
somebody tear him a new asshole! RussBLib May 2022 #16
Rand Paul was also one of the 8 idiots who kissed putin's feet by visiting russia on July 4th. C Moon May 2022 #58
He was not on the 2018 trip (was there another one I did not know about)? yellowdogintexas May 2022 #61
So sorry. You're correct. I guess I was thinking of when he delivered a letter to putin from trump. C Moon May 2022 #64
Maybe he can spend a night with blue-wave May 2022 #62
Lying fuck. he has allegiance to Ruzzia! DippyDem May 2022 #7
His allegiance is to Putin. Irish_Dem May 2022 #8
Indeed. He hand-carried private letters from the Orange One to Vlad personally. Wonder why?? Evolve Dammit May 2022 #20
Trump disclosing classified info is my guess. Irish_Dem May 2022 #21
via Rand Fucking Traitor Paul Evolve Dammit May 2022 #44
So that is why Putin owns Rand Paul. Irish_Dem May 2022 #45
Doesn't Russia fund one of his and his father's groups? Least that's what i dem4decades May 2022 #22
Also one of Rand Paul's was found to have funneled Russian money Irish_Dem May 2022 #24
I guess he just wanted to vote... Gore1FL May 2022 #9
and the rs were screaming at prez biden to do something. and they pull this nonsense. AllaN01Bear May 2022 #11
He's a Russian asset. /nt spudspud May 2022 #12
Yup Rand Paul is a Russian ass-et Historic NY May 2022 #13
Rand! Stop Sticking Your Head Up Putrid's Ass! Look What It Does To Your Hair!! nt smb May 2022 #18
Ditto that! WVreaper May 2022 #34
Follow the fucking 💰!!!! ashredux May 2022 #14
All this time I thought that icon was a finger! zanana1 May 2022 #68
Tyranny of the minority CloudWatcher May 2022 #15
Isthat final? Is there a workarond that jerk? brush May 2022 #17
Not final, just slows things down CloudWatcher May 2022 #19
Good. Thank you. brush May 2022 #27
They were probably trying to do a "unanimous consent" motion to pass that funding BumRushDaShow May 2022 #39
I'm sick of the Senate. dem4decades May 2022 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author dem4decades May 2022 #25
Biden should award Medal of Freedom to the neighbor who smacked Paul Submariner May 2022 #26
Putin's toilet licker Blue Owl May 2022 #28
Nothing else to say other than calling him a traitor to his face. No other excuse. NT SWBTATTReg May 2022 #29
And by "US Constitution", he of course means Russia. ColinC May 2022 #30
How is this Democracy? ZonkerHarris May 2022 #31
Excuse me Rand, but that foreign nation is here. Budi May 2022 #32
how can they do this? wryter2000 May 2022 #33
I posted upthread BumRushDaShow May 2022 #41
Rand Paul can only slow this bill down LetMyPeopleVote May 2022 #35
Methinks this was actually a good thing. Putting Paul on the spot, making him declare on the... machoneman May 2022 #67
Ukraine wouldn't be in this mess or Europe and the NATO Alliance if this twit would have turbinetree May 2022 #36
I don't get it karin_sj May 2022 #38
What he did was block a "unanimous consent" to pass the bill BumRushDaShow May 2022 #42
Putting anything on hold that will help prevent a country from being destroyed is a dangerous game yaesu May 2022 #47
He has (almost) always been against "foreign entanglements" BumRushDaShow May 2022 #49
Wow, what an asshole. EndlessWire May 2022 #40
F$cking commie pinko truthisfreedom May 2022 #43
Send up a flare when the the folks in Kentucky Golden Raisin May 2022 #46
Yes! What the hell is the matter with the people of Kentucky??? Trust_Reality May 2022 #56
Senate Rules Make It A Dysfunctional Body DallasNE May 2022 #48
Indeed. The Senate is really screwed up. Trust_Reality May 2022 #57
Rand Paul is a total disgrace LetMyPeopleVote May 2022 #50
Thought he was pinch hitting for tRumPutin...... 2Gingersnaps May 2022 #51
Gotta earn those rubles... dlk May 2022 #52
Rand Paul is a Russian lacky blue-wave May 2022 #63
What RayStar May 2022 #65
I hope there is thorough review and discussion. David__77 May 2022 #66
OMG, it is indeed right there in the Constitution DFW May 2022 #69
So when will Rand Paul move to Russia SouthernDem4ever May 2022 #71

Peregrine Took

(7,413 posts)
10. Hmmmmm.....let me think.......I say.......not even close!!!
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:33 PM
May 2022

Has anyone else noticed his extremely lowlife appearance lately?

I saw him "speaking" last week and he looked like he just rolled out of the gutter - very unkempt, actually looked seedy.

lastlib

(23,209 posts)
53. Nah, he's just foreskin--not big enough to be a full dick.
Thu May 12, 2022, 11:20 PM
May 2022

Last edited Fri May 13, 2022, 06:34 PM - Edit history (1)

Could we trade him to Russia for Britney Griner, along with a spy to be named later?

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
55. Only the guy that Al Franken likes more than the Republicans.
Fri May 13, 2022, 12:32 AM
May 2022

That being Ted Cancun Cruz. And Al hates Ted Cruz.

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
4. When the money that could be generated by the Military-Industrial Complex....
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:18 PM
May 2022

Isn't enough, then you really know that the Treason runs deep.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
6. And don't forget this: Rand Paul's comments on Russian invasion criticized as echoing Putin's point
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:22 PM
May 2022

Sen. Rand Paul got flak Tuesday for his comments on the Russian invasion of Ukraine, with some people criticizing him for echoing one of Russian President Vladimir Putin's talking points.

During an exchange with U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Paul pointed out that Russia's attacks, in the recent past, have been on countries that were once part of the Soviet Union.

Putin publicly has dismissed Ukraine's right to function as a sovereign nation separate from Russia.

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/rand-paul/2022/04/26/kentucky-sen-rand-paul-criticized-over-russian-invasion-comments/9542612002/

RussBLib

(9,006 posts)
16. somebody tear him a new asshole!
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:46 PM
May 2022

I mean a Democratic Senator. Or a Republican Senator would be even better.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
58. Rand Paul was also one of the 8 idiots who kissed putin's feet by visiting russia on July 4th.
Fri May 13, 2022, 01:19 AM
May 2022

putin belittled them further by not even showing up.
Americans (left and right) need to wake up and quit voting for these bought and paid for politicians, lest we lose our country to the rich.
I actually have lost hope, but will keep voting and doing what I can.

yellowdogintexas

(22,250 posts)
61. He was not on the 2018 trip (was there another one I did not know about)?
Fri May 13, 2022, 01:51 AM
May 2022

But the list is predictable
he GOP lawmakers, Sen. Richard Shelby (Ala.), Steve Daines (Mont.), John Thune (S.D.), John Kennedy (La.), Jerry Moran (Kan.) and John Hoeven (N.D.), and Rep. Kay Granger (R-Texas), spent July 4 in Moscow’s U.S. Embassy, NPR reported.

I do know my Congressional Rep is Kay Granger.

When I was searching for info on the trip and found this article. I was not expecting what I read.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-senators-tell-contradictory-stories-about-moscow-trip

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
64. So sorry. You're correct. I guess I was thinking of when he delivered a letter to putin from trump.
Fri May 13, 2022, 03:27 AM
May 2022

Apologies.

Gore1FL

(21,127 posts)
9. I guess he just wanted to vote...
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:32 PM
May 2022

I'm guessing they have well above he 50 they need. He's simply being Rand Paul.

AllaN01Bear

(18,150 posts)
11. and the rs were screaming at prez biden to do something. and they pull this nonsense.
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:34 PM
May 2022

so, why did u and yr buddies goto russia on the 4th rather than stay here dear sir?

CloudWatcher

(1,846 posts)
15. Tyranny of the minority
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:46 PM
May 2022

Every day I think less and less of the Senate as an institution that deserves any respect.

How undemocratic can it get? How non-functional? How not representative of the will of the people?

The Electoral College isn't the only thing that should be discarded.

CloudWatcher

(1,846 posts)
19. Not final, just slows things down
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:51 PM
May 2022
Despite the high-profile pressure from the two leaders, Paul refused to blink, meaning that Schumer will need to take procedural steps to overcome his objection, which could take several days, but will ultimately lead to passage of the supplemental spending bill sometime next week.


https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/12/politics/rand-paul-blocks-ukraine-aid/index.html

BumRushDaShow

(128,842 posts)
39. They were probably trying to do a "unanimous consent" motion to pass that funding
Thu May 12, 2022, 08:46 PM
May 2022

and he was right there to "object". So now they'll have to go through the whole "regular process".

I remember the ass Tom Coburn would do that all the time - appear out of nowhere for "unanimous consent" requests - notably for funding bills, and would "object". They used to call him "Dr. No" -

One-Man Gridlock: Meet Tom Coburn, Senate's 'Dr. No'

By Sarah Lueck
Dec. 21, 2007 11:59 pm ET


WASHINGTON -- On Tuesday afternoon, when most senators were preparing to leave Washington for the holiday recess, Tom Coburn was declaring his intention to stick around. "The floor's going to be open," said the 59-year-old Oklahoma Republican. "I'm going to have to be here...to try to stop stuff." Stopping stuff is Sen. Coburn's specialty. In a Congress that has had trouble passing even the simplest legislation, Sen. Coburn, who proudly wears the nickname "Dr. No,'' is a one-man gridlock machine.

This year, the senator, who indeed is a medical doctor, single-handedly blocked or slowed more than 90 bills, driving lawmakers on both sides of the aisle to distraction. He blocked a ban on genetic discrimination by health insurers. He thwarted a bill to set up a program to track patients with Lou Gehrig's disease. Also nixed: an effort to promote safe Internet use by children and a resolution to honor the late environmentalist Rachel Carson on the 100th anniversary of her birth.

A bill that would authorize government mapping of the ocean floor and coastal areas? No way. One that would require more data collection on the availability and quality of broadband service? Uh-uh. If Dr. Coburn had his way, there would be no new funding for a Justice Department office to investigate unsolved Civil Rights-era killings, no promotion of wild-land firefighter safety. Sometimes, Dr. Coburn, an obstetrician who sees patients one morning a week, disagrees with the proposals.

As a fiscal conservative, he usually objects to what he sees as excess spending. Sometimes, he just wants to force a debate or improve on items that would otherwise fly through the Senate. In a crowded legislative calendar, not everything gets the scrutiny voters might imagine. Dr. Coburn's weapon of choice is the "hold," a procedural maneuver that allows a single senator to prevent a bill from being passed quickly without a roll-call vote or floor debate. Until a rule change this year, senators could keep their holds secret, and they usually did. Dr. Coburn notifies colleagues about his intentions.

(snip)

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB119820693514244309


That idiot did it with the "Pigford II" appropriations, slowing the process of getting court-ordered, Congressionally-approved funding to black farmers left out of the previous Pigford I payments.

Response to yaesu (Original post)

Submariner

(12,503 posts)
26. Biden should award Medal of Freedom to the neighbor who smacked Paul
Thu May 12, 2022, 06:59 PM
May 2022

and expunge his criminal record.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
32. Excuse me Rand, but that foreign nation is here.
Thu May 12, 2022, 07:22 PM
May 2022

And you helped roll out that red carpet for them.

Not suprised that you'd vote to withhold $$$ assistance to keep RU from collapsing.

Admit it Rand, you're really cheering for Putin.


wryter2000

(46,036 posts)
33. how can they do this?
Thu May 12, 2022, 07:31 PM
May 2022

I understand a filibuster, but one asshole Senator blocking what both parties want? Can't they vote to proceed over his objections? Whatever rule he's using has to be changed.

BumRushDaShow

(128,842 posts)
41. I posted upthread
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:00 PM
May 2022

that when you have bills like this that have overwhelmingly passed the House and come over to the Senate and are known to be highly popular and would probably pass by a large margin in the Senate, then the Majority Leader will usually bring those types up at the end of a session before adjourning for the day, and will "ask for unanimous consent" to automatically pass "such-and-such" bill(s), and the assigned Senate Pro-temp will usually respond "without objection", UNLESS some idiot like the SPAWN OF RON PAUL "objects".

And then at that point, there is a process where said SPAWN may demand "more information" and "responses to questions" that he has and whatnot to slow it all down. Eventually when he gets his info he "releases" his hold, they will do some rudimentary debate, and will often go through the formal vote (usually a roll call when you have asses doing it to slow stuff down).

Carnival Cruz has done his share of these "holds" as well.

machoneman

(4,006 posts)
67. Methinks this was actually a good thing. Putting Paul on the spot, making him declare on the...
Fri May 13, 2022, 09:12 AM
May 2022

..Senate floor his allegiance to his master, Putin. Look, we have already shipped and delivered tons of pricey military gear and other needed items. A few days delay now to turn out this traitor to democratic principles is worth it.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
36. Ukraine wouldn't be in this mess or Europe and the NATO Alliance if this twit would have
Thu May 12, 2022, 07:45 PM
May 2022

voted to remove the asshole that was trying to blackmail a country....kind a has his constitutional priorities mixed up....again how did he get elected....oh that's right his daddy and that last name and the libertataian BS ....

karin_sj

(808 posts)
38. I don't get it
Thu May 12, 2022, 08:22 PM
May 2022

How can a single republican senator stop a bill or package from passing? And if they are able to do that so successfully, why didn't any of our senators stop any of Trump's horrible bills when the repukes were in power?

BumRushDaShow

(128,842 posts)
42. What he did was block a "unanimous consent" to pass the bill
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:04 PM
May 2022

and put a "hold" on it.

Democrats have done the same when the GOP was trying to ram their crap through that way - assuming they were willing to hang around and wait for the unanimous consent requests to occur - usually done before adjourning for the day.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
47. Putting anything on hold that will help prevent a country from being destroyed is a dangerous game
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:40 PM
May 2022

hours delay could lead to 100's of deaths. Fascists like Paul are dangerous to US and the world.

BumRushDaShow

(128,842 posts)
49. He has (almost) always been against "foreign entanglements"
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:46 PM
May 2022

as a pseudo-Libertarian (unless it suits him).

EndlessWire

(6,509 posts)
40. Wow, what an asshole.
Thu May 12, 2022, 08:57 PM
May 2022

He thinks that the US operates in a vacuum. He forgets how Trump effed around in Ukraine trying to get political favor. And, now he wants to stick it to Ukraine over the budget, like he's a caped crusador or something. Eff him.

He wiped his nose and then wiped his thumb on his lapel. Ewwww!!

I loved Schumer constantly referring to him as the "Junior Senator." And, even as much as I despise McConnell, his speech was perfectly reasonable. Both sides are wanting this aid to go through NOW. Only this tiny little child pretending to care about the country is holding things up. Paul has no concept of war or what it means to the security of Europe, and no ability to look ahead and see what it means to America. What a jerk.

Golden Raisin

(4,608 posts)
46. Send up a flare when the the folks in Kentucky
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:27 PM
May 2022

stop electing and re-electing Rand Paul AND Mitch McConnell. Two of the absolute worst.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
48. Senate Rules Make It A Dysfunctional Body
Thu May 12, 2022, 09:45 PM
May 2022

And it weakens America as a result. Yes, we have many problems and biggest one right now is what happens in Urkraine and that mean they need emergency funding. That the Senate has rules that lock in minority control of that body criples our nation. That 1 man can issue a "hold" that prevent a bill from coming to the floor is assinine in the extreme. Couple that with the filibuster and the body is dysfunctional. Then, in this case, you have a politician that has received dirty, dark money from Russia which makes him compromised as a Russian asset, handing Putin a win for his investment money. Treason is not too harsh of word to describe the actions of Rand Paul here. And it is past time that Holds are eliminated in the Senate.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
51. Thought he was pinch hitting for tRumPutin......
Thu May 12, 2022, 10:20 PM
May 2022

"Duty to the Constitution," if there were an omnipotent, omnipresent God in Heaven he would have been struck by lightening.

blue-wave

(4,351 posts)
63. Rand Paul is a Russian lacky
Fri May 13, 2022, 02:11 AM
May 2022

If he were for his "oath of office is to the U.S. constitution" he would realize that the constitution is under attack by the likes of Putin and the Trumptards. He loves Pooty and what he stands for, which is the destruction of everything that seemingly threatens his/their power. How did we ever regress to have so many anti-Americans in our congress? Will the insanity ever stop?

DFW

(54,341 posts)
69. OMG, it is indeed right there in the Constitution
Fri May 13, 2022, 01:30 PM
May 2022

47th Amendment, article XXIV

"No sitting Senator in the employ of a hostile foreign power shall vote to authorize material aid to an enemy of that power, provided that the Senator is a proven asshole."

Yep. he's loyal to the Constitution, alright. Well, THAT version of it anyway.
I'm not sure that Amendment was ever ratified, though....

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