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Omaha Steve

(99,608 posts)
Fri May 13, 2022, 10:50 AM May 2022

Israeli police beat mourners at journalist's funeral

Source: AP

By JOSEPH KRAUSS

JERUSALEM (AP) — Israeli police on Friday moved in on a crowd of mourners at the funeral of Al Jazeera journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, beating demonstrators with batons and causing pallbearers to briefly drop the casket.

The crackdown came during a rare show of Palestinian nationalism in east Jerusalem — the part of the holy city that Israel captured in 1967 and that the Palestinians claim as their capital.

Israel says east Jerusalem is part of its capital and has annexed the area in a move that is not internationally recognized. Israel routinely clamps down on any displays of support for Palestinian statehood.

Thousands of mourners, some hoisting Palestinian flags and chanting “Palestine, Palestine,” attended the funeral for Abu Akleh, who witnesses say was shot and killed by Israeli forces earlier this week while covering a military raid in the occupied West Bank.



Mourners gather at the hospital where the body of slain Al Jazeera veteran journalist Shireen Abu Akleh will be taken from to to her final resting place, in east Jerusalem, Friday, May 13, 2022. Abu Akleh, a Palestinian-American reporter who covered the Mideast conflict for more than 25 years, was shot dead Wednesday during an Israeli military raid in the West Bank town of Jenin.(AP Photo/Mahmoud Illean)


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/shireen-abu-akleh-journalist-funeral-west-bank-bb71e2ec64dd034066bc6df4a9aa2fb3

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Israeli police beat mourners at journalist's funeral (Original Post) Omaha Steve May 2022 OP
Words fail. niyad May 2022 #1
No kidding underpants May 2022 #3
Horrifying. blm May 2022 #4
Sickening. mountain grammy May 2022 #2
its time for the US to cut israel off from aid moonshinegnomie May 2022 #5
Cool story. Mosby May 2022 #12
Yes Our Tax Dollars!!! McKim May 2022 #29
I hope a significant number of American politicians speak up about this outrage. TheRickles May 2022 #6
They won't. Maybe Bernie? nt Samrob May 2022 #15
Unconscionable Bayard May 2022 #7
A group of Muslim men hijacked the funeral. Mosby May 2022 #10
Well, that's different Bayard May 2022 #21
Yes, Do You Have Proof? McKim May 2022 #30
Do you have a valid link to your accusation? karynnj May 2022 #25
It was mentioned in the Washington Post article. Marius25 May 2022 #26
So the people identified as "pallbearers" in the posted article robbob May 2022 #40
Time to cut off their allowance Deuxcents May 2022 #8
Agreed Bayard May 2022 #22
You don't know what Apartheid means. Marius25 May 2022 #27
I do OrangeJoe May 2022 #37
It didn't bother Israel when they killed 34 American servicemen. marie999 May 2022 #9
Palestinians have murdered 19 Israelis in the past MONTH Mosby May 2022 #11
Better check that info. Always go back to the initiating incident. Many were acts of retaliation. Samrob May 2022 #17
And people here don't care. Marius25 May 2022 #28
I'm glad that this is getting more attention SunImp May 2022 #13
They were following her families wishes. Mosby May 2022 #14
This had very little to do with her "religion" and everything to do with what she was reporting on. Samrob May 2022 #18
The murder by Palestinians. Mosby May 2022 #19
That's quite a story!!!!! McKim May 2022 #31
Please provide a link to your source. Fla Dem May 2022 #23
Wapo Mosby May 2022 #36
It appears there may be another side to the story sarisataka May 2022 #16
Would you please provide a link to your source. Fla Dem May 2022 #20
My apologies, they did not say protesters sarisataka May 2022 #24
See the Washington Post Video McKim May 2022 #32
Sad! Truly sad! burrowowl May 2022 #33
The Times of Israel story: Ziggysmom May 2022 #34
That's not what the video showed. Duppers May 2022 #35
... ck4829 May 2022 #38
Whenever the Holocaust is mentioned, it breaks my heart. zanana1 May 2022 #39

McKim

(2,412 posts)
29. Yes Our Tax Dollars!!!
Fri May 13, 2022, 06:36 PM
May 2022

Yes, our tax dollars are funding human rights violations in Israel/Palestine! Time for a reckoning!

TheRickles

(2,059 posts)
6. I hope a significant number of American politicians speak up about this outrage.
Fri May 13, 2022, 11:33 AM
May 2022

Even though they'll probably be labeled as anti-Semitic.

Bayard

(22,062 posts)
7. Unconscionable
Fri May 13, 2022, 11:34 AM
May 2022

At a funeral, for gawdsakes! I'm thinking our government should say something about this. She was an American.

Mosby

(16,304 posts)
10. A group of Muslim men hijacked the funeral.
Fri May 13, 2022, 12:36 PM
May 2022

Abu Akleh was a Palestinian Christian, she was supposed to be placed in a hearse and taken to a Catholic church in Jerusalem’s Old City, and then a procession to the Christian cemetery where she was to be buried in a family plot. This was all agreed upon ahead of time by Israeli authorities and her FAMILY.

Instead her casket was taken over by Muslims, to be taken to God knows where, prompting her brother to scream, from atop another person's shoulders “For God’s sake, let us put her in the car and finish the day,”

But that didn't happen....

McKim

(2,412 posts)
30. Yes, Do You Have Proof?
Fri May 13, 2022, 06:38 PM
May 2022

Yes, do you have proof, footage? You seem to have a lot of special information, so please share it.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
25. Do you have a valid link to your accusation?
Fri May 13, 2022, 04:04 PM
May 2022

It is not in the NYT or Haaretz stories.

The fact is this attack on mourners appears to happen as they enter a church -- yes, a church. It may be that given that attack, plans to have a ceremonial procession to a Christian cemetery were changed. That could even be the context if the brother's statement is accurate.

This is beyond stupid on the part of Israeli authorities. This was the funeral of an AMERICAN dual citizen, a Christian and a respected journalism of 25 years. This MAY show the limbo that Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem neighborhoods exist in that is little known to most Americans.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
26. It was mentioned in the Washington Post article.
Fri May 13, 2022, 05:33 PM
May 2022
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/13/shireen-abu-akleh-al-jazeera-israel-jenin/


A bunch of Palestinians interrupted the funeral (she's Christian not Muslim) and demanded she be carried on their shoulders while they were chanting in Arabic. Her mourners were yelling demanding they let the Hearse through.

Supposedly rocks were being thrown too, but I haven't seen that confirmed yet.

While it's a bad look for Israel, it's not as innocent as it sounds among the other groups. There was a clash between Christian mourners and Muslims.

robbob

(3,528 posts)
40. So the people identified as "pallbearers" in the posted article
Wed May 18, 2022, 12:07 PM
May 2022

might be more accurately described as “body snatchers”? I’m not happy with the Israeli police and their heavy handed response, but this info definitely casts the story in an entirely different light.

Deuxcents

(16,193 posts)
8. Time to cut off their allowance
Fri May 13, 2022, 12:18 PM
May 2022

Israel won their independence on May 14, 1948...74 years ago. They are an apartheid system n we should not be supporting it.

Bayard

(22,062 posts)
22. Agreed
Fri May 13, 2022, 02:32 PM
May 2022

They are not a poor country. I put this in the same category as subsidizing oil companies.

OrangeJoe

(335 posts)
37. I do
Sat May 14, 2022, 08:18 PM
May 2022

I lived and worked in a "Front Line State" in Africa bordering on South Africa during the apartheid era. I then traveled to Israel and the Occupied Territories after that. The main difference in the two systems was that white South Africans tended to be paternalistic towards Africans. They would tell me how Africans "are like children, they don't want to work or organize a government, etc." Demeaning and racist but at the same time almost every white South African had an African family of servants living on their property and maintained that if the other Blacks were like "their" Blacks things would be ok.

Israelis on the other hand frequently told me how much the hated "the Arabs", wanted them to go back to another Arab country, that they were animals (cockroaches one person told me), etc. I personally observed armed Israeli settlers push old Palestinian men off a sidewalk, bully their way everywhere, saw police rudely questioning Arabs, demanding documents and just generally fucking with them to an extent I never witnessed in South Africa. And by the way South African police were no sweethearts.

So yeah I do know what apartheid is and it is alive and well in Israel.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
9. It didn't bother Israel when they killed 34 American servicemen.
Fri May 13, 2022, 12:23 PM
May 2022

Why would it bother them to kill Palestinians?

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
17. Better check that info. Always go back to the initiating incident. Many were acts of retaliation.
Fri May 13, 2022, 01:36 PM
May 2022
 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
28. And people here don't care.
Fri May 13, 2022, 05:36 PM
May 2022

The only stories that ever get attention among them are when Palestinians are attacked, not Jews.

SunImp

(2,224 posts)
13. I'm glad that this is getting more attention
Fri May 13, 2022, 12:42 PM
May 2022

Palestinian and anti Israeli attacks always seem to get covered by the news outlets while cases of abuse and other brutality by Israeli forces appear to mostly get thrown under the rug.

Mosby

(16,304 posts)
14. They were following her families wishes.
Fri May 13, 2022, 12:47 PM
May 2022

She's a Christian, the route was worked out ahead of time with the authorities and her FAMILY. Then a group of Muslim men came and took her corpse. The security forces responded.

Her own brother said: "For God’s sake, let us put her in the car and finish the day,”



Samrob

(4,298 posts)
18. This had very little to do with her "religion" and everything to do with what she was reporting on.
Fri May 13, 2022, 01:38 PM
May 2022

Anything else bought into the equation is a diversion from the actual murder.

Mosby

(16,304 posts)
19. The murder by Palestinians.
Fri May 13, 2022, 01:44 PM
May 2022
Directly or indirectly they are at fault.

They are largely responsible for the current situation.

They refuse to negotiate.

They refuse to have elections.

They refuse to stop paying stipends to murderer families.

They refuse to allow Jews to pray at their holiest site.

They have murdered 19 Israelis in the past month.

They refuse to stop terrorism.

They are dealing with gang wars in Jenin.

The closer we get to Abu mavens demise, the worse the violence is going to get. Hamas and Iran are wetting themselves about the prospect of taking over the WB, and if they do, the Paleatinians are going to suffer like never before, sadly.

Fla Dem

(23,654 posts)
23. Please provide a link to your source.
Fri May 13, 2022, 02:43 PM
May 2022

This is an updated AP report (16 minutes ago) No mention of Muslim inciters or intruders.



No question the procession may have become large and unruly, but see no claim of Muslim interference.

Where did you read her brother said "For God’s sake, let us put her in the car and finish the day,” as a result of Muslim interfrence, or maybe it was just because the crowd became too large and police too violent.

Mosby

(16,304 posts)
36. Wapo
Sat May 14, 2022, 06:05 PM
May 2022
By noon, a crowd of several hundred formed at the entrance to St. Joseph’s Hospital in East Jerusalem, where Abu Akleh’s body had rested overnight. In the minutes before the procession was due to leave the hospital, several dozen Muslim men lined up for Friday prayers, kneeling in the parking lot. Behind them, two mourners held up large floral crosses. Then the crowd gathered, with Palestinian flags waving.

“God is greatest,” some chanted in Arabic. “From Jerusalem to Jenin, God bless your soul, Shireen.”

But a group of men in the crowd prevented a hearse from backing up to the hospital door, saying they were intent on carrying her body on their shoulders. The standoff eventually prompted Akleh’s brother, sitting on a man’s shoulders, to beseech the crowd to let the hearse through. “For God’s sake, let us put her in the car and finish the day,” he said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/13/shireen-abu-akleh-al-jazeera-israel-jenin/

sarisataka

(18,621 posts)
16. It appears there may be another side to the story
Fri May 13, 2022, 01:28 PM
May 2022

According to NPR there were mourners and protesters both present. The protesters were interfering with the funeral, turning it into a political demonstration and throwing things at the police. The protesters refused to listen to the families request to allow them to proceed on foot with the casket to the church so they had to have a vehicle drive them.

Did the Israeli police overreact or mistake some mourners for protesters? Maybe/possibly or even probably. But the AP article leaves out several key facts.

Fla Dem

(23,654 posts)
20. Would you please provide a link to your source.
Fri May 13, 2022, 02:30 PM
May 2022
Israeli police beat pallbearers at journalist’s funeral
By JOSEF FEDERMAN
49 minutes ago (as of 2:25 EDT)

https://apnews.com/article/shireen-abu-akleh-journalist-funeral-west-bank-bb71e2ec64dd034066bc6df4a9aa2fb3

This is an updated AP article with no mention of Muslim intruders, disrupters.

sarisataka

(18,621 posts)
24. My apologies, they did not say protesters
Fri May 13, 2022, 02:50 PM
May 2022

But called them demonstrators. I do not see if they were identified as Muslim but later the article notes that the mourners at the service and cemetery included both Christians ans Muslims.

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/13/1098763536/israeli-police-beat-mourners-at-a-slain-al-jazeera-journalists-funeral

Ziggysmom

(3,406 posts)
34. The Times of Israel story:
Sat May 14, 2022, 04:05 AM
May 2022

"The police said in a subsequent statement that it intervened at the hospital because rioters had seized the casket against the wishes of the family and prevented it from being loaded onto a hearse, as previously agreed, for that part of the funeral procession."


https://www.timesofisrael.com/scenes-from-one-part-of-a-funeral-as-shireen-abu-akleh-is-laid-to-rest-in-jerusalem/

zanana1

(6,112 posts)
39. Whenever the Holocaust is mentioned, it breaks my heart.
Wed May 18, 2022, 05:30 AM
May 2022

But then I see what's going on in Israel and I'm conflicted.

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