HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » Latest Breaking News (Forum) » Students protesting teach...

Fri May 13, 2022, 04:52 PM

Students protesting teacher they say pushes conservative views on them

Source: ABC KTUL - TULSA, OK

Students at Memorial High School are calling for change.

Some, like junior Savannah Durbin, are even calling on the Tulsa Public School Board to fire a Memorial teacher.

Durbin said the teacher is blurring the line between church and state by sharing her religious and political beliefs at school.

"We were all yelling to fire her and get her out of the school," Durbin said.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/students-protesting-teacher-they-say-pushes-conservative-views-on-them/ar-AAXb6Ql?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ae37652073284b48a8e715f24e6baa13



She is the science teacher! Talk about "indoctrination"!

45 replies, 5879 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 45 replies Author Time Post
Reply Students protesting teacher they say pushes conservative views on them (Original post)
Behind the Aegis May 13 OP
louis-t May 13 #1
Prof. Toru Tanaka May 14 #37
azureblue May 15 #44
TheRealNorth May 13 #2
OnlinePoker May 13 #26
yardwork May 15 #43
DanieRains May 13 #3
Hoyt May 13 #4
bucolic_frolic May 13 #5
ancianita May 14 #28
ProfessorGAC May 14 #38
ancianita May 15 #42
CurtEastPoint May 13 #6
erronis May 13 #8
paleotn May 13 #10
COL Mustard May 13 #18
CurtEastPoint May 13 #19
COL Mustard May 13 #20
Glorfindel May 13 #22
Meadowoak May 13 #24
The Jungle 1 May 14 #32
COL Mustard May 14 #34
sop May 13 #7
The Jungle 1 May 14 #33
Skittles May 13 #9
NullTuples May 13 #11
SoCalDavidS May 13 #12
TomSlick May 13 #13
AZLD4Candidate May 13 #14
BigDemVoter May 13 #15
virgdem May 13 #23
japple May 13 #16
keithbvadu2 May 13 #17
NoMoreRepugs May 13 #21
Evolve Dammit May 13 #25
lonely bird May 13 #27
VarryOn May 14 #29
Omaha Steve May 14 #30
The Jungle 1 May 14 #31
SouthernDem4ever May 14 #35
melm00se May 14 #36
Martin68 May 14 #39
Loki Liesmith May 14 #40
Behind the Aegis May 15 #41
Alwaysna May 16 #45

Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 04:56 PM

1. Every time she spouts some right wing nonsense

students should point at her and laugh.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to louis-t (Reply #1)

Sat May 14, 2022, 05:36 PM

37. And have their cell phones on record.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to louis-t (Reply #1)

Sun May 15, 2022, 11:06 AM

44. no

Simply ask her to prove her postulate using the scientific method. Like the way a chemistry demonstration is done.. If she can't then she proves her theory is invalid...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 04:56 PM

2. IOKIYAR

if I was in H.S. today and I had a H.S. history teacher like I did back then, knowing what I know today, I would tell him where to shove his Lost Cause states-rights B.S.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #2)

Fri May 13, 2022, 08:30 PM

26. My junior high socials teacher in the 70's was an avowed communist

He literally had a hammer and sickle flag on his desk. Everything was how great life was in the USSR and how the capitalist system was collapsing. I can't remember what he was actually supposed to be teaching, but that's all I remember from that semester of class.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to OnlinePoker (Reply #26)

Sun May 15, 2022, 09:44 AM

43. I wish he could have met my HS Civics teacher in the 1970s.

He was hysterically fearful of communism and constantly talked about the communist threat. He had a map on the wall of "communist" nations - all in red - and when I questioned whether Great Britain, Sweden, Norway, etc. we're actually communist he asked me why I was a communist sympathizer.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 04:57 PM

3. Record Her Ass

 

If it is not already being done.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 05:00 PM

4. Racism/bigotry is fine to teach, but not CRT or just that racism is wrong.

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 05:05 PM

5. These types do exist

Business schools are rather conservative, with a few who can't help themselves. But religious sorts, of various stripes, pop up here and there too. The right rails against the left, but the left falls behind. But I would also say balance is lacking. Teachers, to avoid conflict, to focus on their subject matter, to do their jobs, should be advised to try to walk down the middle, but allow a left or a right point of view here or there. Total neutrality is devoid of context and meaning. You can't convert everyone no matter how hard you try.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #5)

Sat May 14, 2022, 01:08 AM

28. Because of Koch. He endows over 300 university economics departments, & demands input on hiring.

I've got the list.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ancianita (Reply #28)

Sat May 14, 2022, 08:15 PM

38. While True...

...it's probably money needlessly spent.
The economics community in grad schools have been hugely populated by hard core libertarians since well before i was in MBA school.
Since my focus was in economics & finance i knew lots of instructors. I met ONE Keynesisn. All the rest were Cato, Heartland, or U of C types.
That was way before Chuckles got involved.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #38)

Sun May 15, 2022, 06:32 AM

42. It's had its impact.

Who do you think founded Cato.

Apparently he doesn't see his spending as needless. His money built ALEC, which, as you know, offers libertarian-to-neocon templates for non-lawyers in state legislatures that have swung their states to the Right -- like WI, MI, AZ and PA.

Democrats have had to fend off his ALEC crap in these battlegrounds for decades.

He was a Mont Pelerin president, and Frank Knight, one of its founders, was the head of the University of Chicago Economics Dept, which boasted itself the most conservative on the planet, regularly validated by friends influencing the awarding of Nobel prizes. James M Buchanan got one of them; he's the guy who wrote the language of economics that systematically covered up southern institutionalized racism. He's the guy who literally wrote Pinochet's constitution for minority rule.

In the last 20 years, Koch has impacted the federal courts.

Between 1997 and 2017, the Koch brothers gave more than $6 million to the Federalist Society, a nonprofit institute that recruits libertarian and conservative judges for the federal judiciary, according to a tally by the activist group Greenpeace.

Mr. Koch’s efforts on the Supreme Court intensified after Donald Trump’s election, when a Republican-controlled Senate opened the way to install judges who could tip the court’s ideological balance. Americans for Prosperity undertook national campaigns to support President Trump’s previous Supreme Court nominees, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh. A.F.P. said the Kavanaugh campaign alone — fliers, digital ads and staff for phone banking and door knocking — ran into “seven figures.”
Now, Americans for Prosperity is doing the same for Judge Barrett. A.F.P. activists are pressuring U.S. senators in several states, with a particular eye toward vulnerable Democrats like West Virginia’s Joe Manchin. The group is also working in Alaska, where Republican Lisa Murkowski has given mixed signals about whether she is willing to vote on Judge Barrett’s nomination before the next president is elected.


Now he's near winning an Article V convention to rewrite OUR Constitution. It will likely have the same required 2/3 vote to create ANY federal laws, or to federally fund pandemic help, national parks privatizations, or climate change crises. Finally, what will be the public's chances of a 2/3 vote to codify any law that his SCOTUS strikes down.

Legislatures in nine states — Arizona, Georgia, Alaska, Florida, Alabama, Tennessee, Indiana, Oklahoma and Louisiana — have signed on to the Convention of States resolution. Texas appears likely to join in, as the state Senate approved a Convention of States bill in February. Republican Gov. Greg Abbott is fiercely campaigning for a convention and has deemed it an “emergency issue.” In 2016, he published a 70-page plan that includes nine proposed amendments aimed at severely limiting federal authority, even allowing a two-thirds majority of the states to override a Supreme Court ruling or a federal law.
https://billmoyers.com/story/kochs-to-rewrite-constitution/

I'll say this: you might minimize his impact, but Jane Mayer and others wouldn't have written books that center on him and his influence across the oligarchic class if he hadn't intended to capture the United States government. Now we on the other side of his network smokescreen ignore him at our peril.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 05:36 PM

6. Look at this woman's 'platform': Life and Guns come first, education last. Figures.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #6)

Fri May 13, 2022, 05:49 PM

8. Should be kept at least 250 feet from any children. And 50 miles from any legislature.

Wattadumbass.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #6)

Fri May 13, 2022, 06:33 PM

10. Nutters for jebus.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #6)

Fri May 13, 2022, 07:16 PM

18. She can't be a Christian...at least not a real one

She has a tattoo, so she's clearly in violation of whatever the Scripture is about marking your body.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to COL Mustard (Reply #18)

Fri May 13, 2022, 07:17 PM

19. I noticed that, too! She's a 'hip' Krisschinn.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #19)

Fri May 13, 2022, 07:19 PM

20. Bu bu but....

She's violatin' the Scripture! Clearly she's heading for H E Double Hockey Sticks! Can't pick and choose yer theology, I was told.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to COL Mustard (Reply #18)

Fri May 13, 2022, 07:29 PM

22. She's also wearing pants, she cuts her hair, and has pierced ears

No way she can be a REAL Christian.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to COL Mustard (Reply #18)

Fri May 13, 2022, 07:47 PM

24. Probably a born again. The worst kind.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to COL Mustard (Reply #18)

Sat May 14, 2022, 08:25 AM

32. She has makeup on also.

Leviticus 19:28—"Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you"—so as to prohibit tattoos, and perhaps even makeup.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to The Jungle 1 (Reply #32)

Sat May 14, 2022, 09:01 AM

34. It can't cover the

Ugly on the inside.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 05:38 PM

7. Republicans have really opened up a Pandora's box.

Did they really think kids and parents would simply roll over and play dead while they hijacked public school curriculums to spread their revisionist rightwing history and nonsensical conservative christian superstitions?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to sop (Reply #7)

Sat May 14, 2022, 08:25 AM

33. The goal is to destroy public education.

They want private education.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 06:24 PM

9. kudos to these kids

raised in a red state but they still know bullshit when they hear it

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 06:35 PM

11. She's running for state senate; this coverage is like free advertising right at her target market

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 06:36 PM

12. Well, It's Oklahoma

I bet next week's curriculum will be how Joe Biden is the devil.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 06:39 PM

13. I had teachers like that years ago.

I didn't have the good sense not to argue with them.

Maybe it was because I enjoyed arguing with teachers like that that I went on to become a lawyer. Or it could be that the personality trait that caused me to argue with them is why I went on to become a lawyer.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 06:55 PM

14. I will place even money nothing will happen. It's only if it's a "liberal groomer"

Whatever the hell that means.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 06:55 PM

15. That kind of thing was common when I was in high school decades ago.

I remember an English teacher who flat out proselytized all of her students and made negative comments to Jewish students and other students of non-Christian religions. NOTHING happened to her despite complaints. I think it must have just been the time when people still got away with shit like that.

But thankfully today is different. Even in conservative Oklahoma, this shouldn't fly. I'm pleased to see that there ARE people who are complaining.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to BigDemVoter (Reply #15)

Fri May 13, 2022, 07:40 PM

23. I also had an English teacher in 10th grade that spouted his

Conservative garbage. It was 1968, but politics really had no place in a 10th grade English class. Some things never change.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 07:12 PM

16. This harkens back to my school days in the 60s when teachers

talked about happy slaves, happy negroes. I wish I had been as strong as these students who are protesting. It was the early days of school desegregation in GA and we looked at each other when these ignorant comments were made, but we didn't feel like we had the power to take on the school system.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 07:14 PM

17. The students should ask her about conservative/Christian pedophiles and other examples of their mora

The students should ask her about conservative/Christian pedophiles and other examples of their morality.

Jesus had a lot to say about divorce and possible resultant adultery from remarriage.

Maybe some Bible quotes about killing babies and incest and such for her wall.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 07:21 PM

21. Sounds like grooming to me. Grooming religious nutters.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 08:06 PM

25. I am proud of the students standing up to brainwashing. Had a big BLM student rally today.

It warmed my heart to see hundreds of students saying they have had enough; "No justice, no peace." I can't imagine the never-ending barriers and differential treatment being brought to bear since birth because of SKIN COLOR. Such utter bullshit and contrary to our CONSTITUTION. No wonder the right-wing hate the Constitution so much. The promotion of all men created equal really pisses them off. To add women to that makes their heads explode for the last 100 years. Because as Orwell pointed out in 1984, "Some are created more equal than others." I think I got that right.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 09:46 PM

27. Hey!

I thought that they couldn’t make kids uncomfortable.

Oh, that was about making white kits uncomfortable about slavery.

Sorry, never mind.

(Where the bleep is my sarcasm button?)

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2022, 02:37 AM

29. I don't want any politics in the classroom, in my church, at a sporting event...

Or at a concert. Politics neednt be a part of every damn thing. And I love politics...the debate, the machinations of getting laws passed, working in campaigns, reading blogs of all persuasions.

Flying today from a few days in Tuurks and Caicos, I had no idea the politics of my pilots. Didn't need to know, didn't want to know.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2022, 08:01 AM

30. Kick

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2022, 08:18 AM

31. I had a civics teacher in the early 70s

He informed us in the beginning of the year. You will never know if I am a hawk or a dove. Mostly the class was a group debate. There was a lot to debate in the early 70s. Americans were being sent to the jungle with guns that jammed.
I look back with fondness, he taught us how to think! Not what to think, how. Mr Kern thank you.

The problem now is that the right only wants their message distributed. They are getting their way and we must stop them.
It is great that the students are saying NO. That is good stuff.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to The Jungle 1 (Reply #31)

Sat May 14, 2022, 09:15 AM

35. Same here - Civics in the 70's in high school

Very informative class. It didn't involve religious bullcrap and was very pointed on societal law and processes. It seems students today aren't exposed to critical thinking until they get to college.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2022, 12:16 PM

36. I got a talking to

from my department head and principal when I discussed the historicity of some figures from the past.

They included
- King Arthur
- Robin Hood
- William Tell
- Siddhārtha Gautama
- Mohammed
and I included Jesus Christ as well as Siddhartha Gautama and Mohammed

My dept head and principal got calls from parents who bitched that I was teaching Christianity and others bitching I was talking down Christianity and alternated between being a liberal commie and a conservative fascist.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2022, 11:17 PM

39. Oh my! Conservative teachers share their views, too?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2022, 11:39 PM

40. Would be good to hear the teacher's side

Students may have some motivations they aren’t telling us. Or they might be on target.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink



Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

Mon May 16, 2022, 03:34 AM

45. I had a shorthand teacher that in every class gave her "sermon" .

I resented her pushing her religion on us. Therefore, I used my big denim bag as a pillow and spread out my curly "hippie" hair and rested until she was ready to teach which was about 30 minutes into class.. One day she stood in front of me and stated " girls who put their heads on their desk will not learn shorthand". I ignored her and practiced my shorthand lessons and and earned an A in all quarters . I'm sure it pissed her off to be forced to give me all A's when I repeatedly ignored her sermons. Funny thing, the one day the principal sat in the class she had no sermon that day.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread