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BumRushDaShow

(128,710 posts)
Wed May 25, 2022, 01:39 PM May 2022

Trump Said to Have Reacted Approvingly to Jan. 6 Chants About Hanging Pence

Source: New York Times

Shortly after hundreds of rioters at the Capitol started chanting “Hang Mike Pence!” on Jan. 6, 2021, the White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows, left the dining room off the Oval Office, walked into his own office and told colleagues that President Donald J. Trump was complaining that the vice president was being whisked to safety. Mr. Meadows, according to an account provided to the House committee investigating Jan. 6, then told the colleagues that Mr. Trump had said something to the effect of, maybe Mr. Pence should be hung.

It is not clear what tone Mr. Trump was said to have used. But the reported remark was further evidence of how extreme the rupture between the president and his vice president had become, and of how Mr. Trump not only failed to take action to call off the rioters but appeared to identify with their sentiments about Mr. Pence — whom he had unsuccessfully pressured to block certification of the Electoral College results that day — as a reflection of his own frustration at being unable to reverse his loss.

The account of Mr. Trump’s comment was initially provided to the House committee by at least one witness, according to two people briefed on their work, as the panel develops a timeline of what the president was doing during the riot.Another witness, Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to Mr. Meadows who was present in his office when he recounted Mr. Trump’s remarks, was asked by the committee about the account and confirmed it, according to the people familiar with the panel’s work. It was not immediately clear how much detailed information Ms. Hutchinson provided. She has cooperated with the committee in three separate interviews after receiving a subpoena.

Taylor Budowich, a spokesman for Mr. Trump, criticized the committee’s work. “This partisan committee’s vague ‘leaks,’ anonymous testimony and willingness to alter evidence proves it’s just an extension of the Democrat smear campaign that has been exposed time and time again for being fabricated and dishonest,” he said. “Americans are tired of the Democrat lies and the charades, but, sadly, it’s the only thing they have to offer.” Mr. Budowich did not address the substance of the information provided to the committee.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/25/us/politics/trump-pence-jan-6.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes



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Trump Said to Have Reacted Approvingly to Jan. 6 Chants About Hanging Pence (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2022 OP
since Trump has absolutely no sense of humor rurallib May 2022 #1
Hanging Mike Pence would have been a win for Trump agingdem May 2022 #19
Absolutely true, on all counts. ShazzieB May 2022 #25
Trump would be happy to kill his opponents. Irish_Dem May 2022 #2
If even that. VWolf May 2022 #5
Good point, he is above the law and he knows it. Irish_Dem May 2022 #6
Trump has been in the past, but not the future. NY State Atty General will get him, Stuart G May 2022 #15
I hope you are right. But there is no data to support any consequences for him at all. Irish_Dem May 2022 #16
Pence was smart not to leave with the security that came to pick him up underpants May 2022 #7
Exactly. Even Pence knew what could happen. Irish_Dem May 2022 #8
He'd be equally happy to kill his sycophants Warpy May 2022 #10
True. He would kill anyone if it was of benefit to him. Irish_Dem May 2022 #12
+1 SunImp May 2022 #24
Taylor Budowich, the adjective is "Democratic" and you are a fucking idiot. RobertDevereaux May 2022 #3
They are fucking idiots. But they are also contractually obligated to the GOP to use Aristus May 2022 #9
Maggie Haberman no less underpants May 2022 #4
Words I NEVER thought I'd say: God bless Dan Quayle. Hamlette May 2022 #11
So? The slow walking will just continue for 5 months and then, pfft! All gone! They'll all skate. PSPS May 2022 #13
Surprising NO ONE on this discussion board. oldsoftie May 2022 #14
Trump's empathy? keithbvadu2 May 2022 #17
I don't know why this would surprise anyone MissMillie May 2022 #18
DJT was drunk with power. JohnnyRingo May 2022 #20
Sure he was. I'm sure he was fist pumping. nt Kahuna May 2022 #21
Nothing says "I'm a great Christian" like wishing death on your fellow man... czarjak May 2022 #22
Traitor! Kid Berwyn May 2022 #23

rurallib

(62,401 posts)
1. since Trump has absolutely no sense of humor
Wed May 25, 2022, 01:43 PM
May 2022

I can't imagine he would have said something like this as sarcasm.

He is so literal in all things my guess is that we should take it literally - that is that he thought hanging Pence was a good thing.

agingdem

(7,827 posts)
19. Hanging Mike Pence would have been a win for Trump
Wed May 25, 2022, 08:07 PM
May 2022

and he knew it..declare martial law...no certifying the electoral vote, the military would swoop in and take over with Trump still in office, chaos would ensue, we'd be in the middle of a constitutional crisis...Trump, a depraved sick conniving sociopath, would have been a happy boy if the rioters had done what they were instructed to do..

ShazzieB

(16,348 posts)
25. Absolutely true, on all counts.
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:04 PM
May 2022

We know that Trump is a sociopath (narcissistic personality disorder + antisocial personality disorder = dangerous combination) with absolutely NO moral compass and NO capacity for empathy. Given his psychological makeup, there's no reason on earth why he would have cared if Pence was harmed. All he cares about in any situation is what will benefit him personally. Pence being hanged or even assaulted would have been like winning the lottery to him.

Irish_Dem

(46,771 posts)
2. Trump would be happy to kill his opponents.
Wed May 25, 2022, 01:44 PM
May 2022

His only concern is how to cover his tracks and get away with it.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
15. Trump has been in the past, but not the future. NY State Atty General will get him,
Wed May 25, 2022, 05:45 PM
May 2022

and given time, to prove the case, U.S.bAtty Garland will also get him.

When you go after a previous President of the United States, your proof must be absolute and totally perfect and
totally complete. Donald Trump will be convicted at some point. Hard to imagine, but will happen in
my opinion.

Irish_Dem

(46,771 posts)
16. I hope you are right. But there is no data to support any consequences for him at all.
Wed May 25, 2022, 05:48 PM
May 2022

He has always gotten away with all of his crimes.

The best predictor of future events are past events.

I hope this time is different.

underpants

(182,721 posts)
7. Pence was smart not to leave with the security that came to pick him up
Wed May 25, 2022, 02:21 PM
May 2022

I don’t have much to say about Pence but he knew not to get in the car without his personal trusted security guy. That was reported shortly after the event.

Irish_Dem

(46,771 posts)
8. Exactly. Even Pence knew what could happen.
Wed May 25, 2022, 02:30 PM
May 2022

He was not going to get into the car with unknown SS agents.

Warpy

(111,222 posts)
10. He'd be equally happy to kill his sycophants
Wed May 25, 2022, 03:20 PM
May 2022

if he thought it would gain him positive attention in a spotlight for the next 1o minutes. About the only person in the world he might feel a pang of regret over slaughtering for a few minutes of applause is Ivanka.

He's a malignant narcissist. This is how they tick. They have no friends, they love no one, they lack the capacity. They are surrounded by enemies and fair weather friends who will turn on them at any time and instantly become enemies, no matter how great their prior service might be..

It's got to be a miserable life, but the challenge for the rest of us is to keep them out of politics, out of the military, and out of the corporate executive suite.

Irish_Dem

(46,771 posts)
12. True. He would kill anyone if it was of benefit to him.
Wed May 25, 2022, 03:28 PM
May 2022

He is worse than just a narcissist, he is also a ruthless sociopath.

The American public seems to greatly admire these types of personalities.
That is why they keep voting them into office.

The American public could be educated about government, leadership, governance and what to look for in a leader. But the GOP is destroying education.

RobertDevereaux

(1,853 posts)
3. Taylor Budowich, the adjective is "Democratic" and you are a fucking idiot.
Wed May 25, 2022, 01:48 PM
May 2022

You're welcome . . . to a life in prison.

Aristus

(66,307 posts)
9. They are fucking idiots. But they are also contractually obligated to the GOP to use
Wed May 25, 2022, 02:39 PM
May 2022

the noun form as the adjectival form. They don't care how stupid it makes them sound, as long as it annoys us.

underpants

(182,721 posts)
4. Maggie Haberman no less
Wed May 25, 2022, 02:05 PM
May 2022

As much as she carried his water, what she reports comes from deep inside his bubble.

czarjak

(11,260 posts)
22. Nothing says "I'm a great Christian" like wishing death on your fellow man...
Thu May 26, 2022, 08:20 AM
May 2022

He really should read that book that nothing beats that he’s never read.

Kid Berwyn

(14,848 posts)
23. Traitor!
Fri May 27, 2022, 12:57 PM
May 2022
Trump 'Committed Treason' With Pence Remark: Ex-Prosecutor Glenn Kirschner

BY JON JACKSON
Newsweek ON 5/27/22

Former Army prosecutor Glenn Kirschner on Thursday said he believes Donald Trump "committed the crime of treason" if a report is true that he said former Vice President Mike Pence should be hanged.

Kirschner made the comments on his YouTube show, Justice Matters. In the video, he discussed a recently released account provided to the House select committee investigating the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021. According to The New York Times' reporting of the account, Mark Meadows, then the White House chief of staff, told colleagues on January 6 that Trump said "something to the effect of: Maybe Mr. Pence should be hanged."

"The evidence is mounting that Donald Trump didn't just incite the insurrection. He committed the crime of treason," Kirschner said.

Snip…

What tone the president of the United States used when he was saying the vice president should be hanged? Does his tone matter?" Kirschner asked incredulously.

He continued, "So, friends, based on this new reporting, let me state this as plainly and directly as I can: Donald Trump committed the crime of treason."

Continues…

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-committed-treason-pence-remark-ex-prosecutor-glenn-kirschner-1710882
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