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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:12 AM

Jose Garcia (2,364 posts)

Supreme Court sides with inmate who wants to die by firing squad

Source: CNN

(CNN)The Supreme Court on Thursday ruled in favor of a death row inmate in Georgia who is challenging the state's lethal injection protocol and seeks to die by firing squad -- a method not currently authorized in the state.

The court said the inmate could bring the challenge under a federal civil rights law that allows individuals to seek remedies when their Constitutional rights are violated. The decision could make it easier for inmates to challenge their potential execution method.

The 5-4 majority opinion was written by Justice Elena Kagan, with Justice Amy Coney Barrett penning a dissent joined by Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch.

Kagan said that the law at issue, Section 1983, "broadly authorizes suit against state officials for the deprivation of any rights secured by the Constitution."

Read more: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/06/23/politics/supreme-court-death-row-inmates/index.html

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Supreme Court sides with inmate who wants to die by firing squad (Original post)	Jose Garcia	Jun 2022	OP
There are plenty of problem with lethal injection, gas, and electric chair	IronLionZion	Jun 2022	#1
But the trial court may disagree with allowing the firing squad.	Igel	Jun 2022	#14
Actually after seeing the John Oliver on lethal injection...	Initech	Jun 2022	#2
Why can't they use whatever drugs are used in assisted suicides?	OnlinePoker	Jun 2022	#15
Because the American right wing destroys everything they touch?	Initech	Jun 2022	#16
Or the drug the Veterinarians use on our pets?????? NC	DENVERPOPS	Jun 2022	#19
Make it very simple: end the death penalty, end the chicken shit death penalty ...	marble falls	Jun 2022	#3
+1	Auggie	Jun 2022	#7
I am not a lawyer	DENVERPOPS	Jun 2022	#10
It unfortunately does not work that way	Lithos	Jun 2022	#18
If we have a constitutional right to due process	ArizonaLib	Jun 2022	#4
If we are going to have a death penalty,	sarisataka	Jun 2022	#5
Old age!	Floyd R. Turbo	Jun 2022	#9
My #1 choice nt	sarisataka	Jun 2022	#11
😁	Floyd R. Turbo	Jun 2022	#12
The well regulated militia should jump at the chance, could be a contest with raffles....	Historic NY	Jun 2022	#6
Ummmmm!	Traildogbob	Jun 2022	#8
At first glance, this appears to be bad	Polybius	Jun 2022	#13
He wants to die in a hail of bullets, so they're going to enroll him in an elementary school.	LudwigPastorius	Jun 2022	#17
Of course	orangecrush	Jun 2022	#20

Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:18 AM

IronLionZion (43,630 posts)

1. There are plenty of problem with lethal injection, gas, and electric chair

so I can see why some folks want to go back to firing squad. Utah uses that method.

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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:40 PM

Igel (34,096 posts)

14. But the trial court may disagree with allowing the firing squad.

This just said that the defendant has the right to challenge the decision not to allow firing squad, not that the defendant will get the firing squad.

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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:18 AM

Initech (98,566 posts)

2. Actually after seeing the John Oliver on lethal injection...

Firing squad seems like the less painful way to go. But neither one are particularly good.

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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:54 PM

OnlinePoker (5,596 posts)

15. Why can't they use whatever drugs are used in assisted suicides?

Here in Canada we don't seem to have an issue with it and it is, apparently, a peaceful process.

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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:03 PM

Initech (98,566 posts)

16. Because the American right wing destroys everything they touch?

Otherwise I don't know.

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Sat Jun 25, 2022, 07:43 PM

DENVERPOPS (8,267 posts)

19. Or the drug the Veterinarians use on our pets?????? NC

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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:25 AM

marble falls (52,609 posts)

3. Make it very simple: end the death penalty, end the chicken shit death penalty ...

... "life with no parole", and finally end three strikes.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:41 AM

Auggie (30,545 posts)

7. +1

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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:02 PM

DENVERPOPS (8,267 posts)

10. I am not a lawyer

but I think the threat of the Death Penalty gives prosecutors the ability to plea bargain the charges to life imprisonment if they plead guilty to avoid the very costly trial and appeals of the Death sentence......

I am against the Death Penalty, but think, for the above reason, that it serves a purpose.........

Then again, I think the Death Penalty for Treason should be considered against the countless insurrectionists & seditionists. Or better yet, pull their citizenship and put them on planes and parachute them into Russia. Let them try the shit they are doing in America in Russia and see where it gets them........

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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:40 PM

Lithos (26,227 posts)

18. It unfortunately does not work that way

The main assumption in such an approach is that the defendant many times is at the mercy of the quality and attention of whatever court appointed attorney is present.

Texas - the attorney fell asleep multiple times in a capital case and the the case was settled with the death penalty. The defendant if I remember was totally incapable mentally of understanding the proceedings.

The Death Penalty is a very real thing with the odds of conviction going up if you are Black, mentally handicapped, poor, uneducated and live in the South. i would give better odds to the animals at a kill shelter. Remember CRT that Republicans do not want people to discuss? To be honest, I am surprised Texas has not taken a hint from the Chinese to just put a bullet in the back of the head and harvest the organs to help reimburse expenses. (Open - I live in Texas)

L-

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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:30 AM

ArizonaLib (1,193 posts)

4. If we have a constitutional right to due process

we should be able to replace the right wing justices on the SCOTUS with unbiased justices.

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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:33 AM

sarisataka (16,391 posts)

5. If we are going to have a death penalty,

I believe we should not, the condemned should be allowed to request their manner of death.

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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:58 AM

Floyd R. Turbo (23,289 posts)

9. Old age!

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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:15 PM

sarisataka (16,391 posts)

11. My #1 choice nt

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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:23 PM

Floyd R. Turbo (23,289 posts)

12. 😁

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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:38 AM

Historic NY (37,053 posts)

6. The well regulated militia should jump at the chance, could be a contest with raffles....

Will they have to hire 5 marksman? Is more than one shot allowed? What if wounded the criminal lives, would this be a completed again? So many questions? Is it even humane? The one shot scenario used in someplace in the world is to the back of the head.

Gary Gilmore was the only person in the US, Utah executed by a firing squad in 1976. Followed by John A Taylor, the last in 1996 when Utah banned a firing squad.

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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:41 AM

Traildogbob (7,514 posts)

8. Ummmmm!

BRing back firing squad in Georgia…….the state that may prosecute trump as a traitor. Finally the Supreme court gets it right.

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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 12:26 PM

Polybius (13,370 posts)

13. At first glance, this appears to be bad

But Amy Coney Barrett, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch dissented. Am I missing something, or does this go beyond supporting the firing squad?

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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 01:53 PM

LudwigPastorius (7,472 posts)

17. He wants to die in a hail of bullets, so they're going to enroll him in an elementary school.

(Yeah, I know. Very dark, but this is where we are.)

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Sat Jun 25, 2022, 09:43 PM

orangecrush (17,595 posts)

20. Of course

Anything for guns.

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