Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:03 AM
TeamProg (3,017 posts)
Steve Bannon says he's willing to testify before January 6 committee after Trump waives claims of ex
Source: CNN
Steve Bannon – who defied a congressional subpoena and is set to go to trial on criminal contempt charges – told the House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, insurrection on Saturday that he is now willing to testify, ideally at a public hearing, according to a letter obtained by CNN. Bannon’s reversal comes after he received a letter from former President Donald Trump waiving executive privilege, although both the House select committee and federal prosecutors contend that privilege claim never gave Bannon carte blanche to ignore a congressional subpoena in the first place. Bannon was charged last year with two counts of criminal contempt of Congress. He has argued that he was free to ignore his congressional subpoena in order to protect Trump’s potential privilege claims. But federal prosecutors and other legal experts have argued that privilege does not apply to Bannon – who left his White House gig as chief strategist years before the Capitol riot – and did not give him the authority to refuse to provide any documents or testimony to the committee. Bannon’s team provided Trump’s new letter to the January 6 committee overnight, along with a letter from Bannon lawyer Bob Costello. “While Mr. Bannon has been steadfast in his convictions, circumstances have now changed,” Costello wrote. “Mr. Bannon is willing to, and indeed prefers, to testify at your public hearing.” Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/10/politics/steve-bannon-trump-january-6-executive-privilege/index.html Rats.. ship.. sinking..
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TeamProg | Jul 2022 | OP |
Beachnutt | Jul 2022 | #1 | |
Rebl2 | Jul 2022 | #46 | |
33taw | Jul 2022 | #2 | |
chowder66 | Jul 2022 | #16 | |
Rebl2 | Jul 2022 | #47 | |
catrose | Jul 2022 | #53 | |
vanlassie | Jul 2022 | #3 | |
flying_wahini | Jul 2022 | #4 | |
IA8IT | Jul 2022 | #13 | |
Rebl2 | Jul 2022 | #48 | |
CrispyQ | Jul 2022 | #5 | |
chowder66 | Jul 2022 | #19 | |
crickets | Jul 2022 | #39 | |
TeamProg | Jul 2022 | #6 | |
TheRealNorth | Jul 2022 | #7 | |
hibbing | Jul 2022 | #8 | |
iluvtennis | Jul 2022 | #26 | |
cayugafalls | Jul 2022 | #9 | |
pandr32 | Jul 2022 | #11 | |
TeamProg | Jul 2022 | #12 | |
madashelltoo | Jul 2022 | #20 | |
iluvtennis | Jul 2022 | #27 | |
Rebl2 | Jul 2022 | #49 | |
BumRushDaShow | Jul 2022 | #21 | |
COL Mustard | Jul 2022 | #10 | |
GB_RN | Jul 2022 | #35 | |
COL Mustard | Jul 2022 | #38 | |
GB_RN | Jul 2022 | #52 | |
Chin music | Jul 2022 | #68 | |
agingdem | Jul 2022 | #63 | |
reACTIONary | Jul 2022 | #42 | |
Eliot Rosewater | Jul 2022 | #14 | |
FakeNoose | Jul 2022 | #32 | |
BumRushDaShow | Jul 2022 | #44 | |
RussBLib | Jul 2022 | #15 | |
BumRushDaShow | Jul 2022 | #17 | |
stevebreeze | Jul 2022 | #23 | |
Lasher | Jul 2022 | #34 | |
BumRushDaShow | Jul 2022 | #36 | |
Grins | Jul 2022 | #45 | |
regnaD kciN | Jul 2022 | #18 | |
COL Mustard | Jul 2022 | #40 | |
ashredux | Jul 2022 | #22 | |
MOMFUDSKI | Jul 2022 | #24 | |
getagrip_already | Jul 2022 | #25 | |
Obvious85 | Jul 2022 | #28 | |
Joinfortmill | Jul 2022 | #29 | |
COL Mustard | Jul 2022 | #41 | |
SouthernDem4ever | Jul 2022 | #30 | |
Kid Berwyn | Jul 2022 | #31 | |
TeamProg | Jul 2022 | #57 | |
LudwigPastorius | Jul 2022 | #33 | |
Tactical Peek | Jul 2022 | #37 | |
Brainfodder | Jul 2022 | #43 | |
Kablooie | Jul 2022 | #50 | |
JohnSJ | Jul 2022 | #51 | |
New Breed Leader | Jul 2022 | #54 | |
Shanti Shanti Shanti | Jul 2022 | #55 | |
Evolve Dammit | Jul 2022 | #56 | |
TeamProg | Jul 2022 | #58 | |
Shanti Shanti Shanti | Jul 2022 | #59 | |
TeamProg | Jul 2022 | #60 | |
Samrob | Jul 2022 | #61 | |
ultralite001 | Jul 2022 | #62 | |
The Wizard | Jul 2022 | #64 | |
lees1975 | Jul 2022 | #65 | |
bucolic_frolic | Jul 2022 | #66 | |
tavernier | Jul 2022 | #67 |
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:05 AM
Beachnutt (4,685 posts)
1. Yea, right after your trial we'll let youmeet with j6 committee
in your orange jumpsuit..
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:06 AM
33taw (2,305 posts)
2. I would not allow public testimony at this point. He talks too much crap.
Response to 33taw (Reply #2)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:43 AM
chowder66 (7,761 posts)
16. 100% agree. He will turn it into some sort of call to action or a spectacle.
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:06 AM
vanlassie (4,993 posts)
3. If that clown thinks he's going to get a public hearing
he’s nuts. Because, he’s nuts.
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:10 AM
flying_wahini (4,790 posts)
4. Others are asking for "live" testimony. They should not even be an option.
Response to flying_wahini (Reply #4)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:30 AM
IA8IT (4,994 posts)
13. No unfiltered major network soapbox for insurrectionists
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:14 AM
CrispyQ (33,512 posts)
5. I hope they tell him, "Your chance for live testimony was when you first were subpoenaed." -nt
Response to CrispyQ (Reply #5)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 02:27 PM
crickets (24,097 posts)
39. +2
At this point he just wants to put on a show, not provide meaningful testimony. Nope.
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:14 AM
TeamProg (3,017 posts)
6. Later in the article, Rep. Zoe Lofgren explains that they will NOT give Bannon a public hearing. nt
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:15 AM
TheRealNorth (7,797 posts)
7. Yup
He wants to make a circus/mockery of it, because there really isn't any penalty if he squats and takes a shit in the middle of the proceedings.
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:21 AM
hibbing (9,469 posts)
8. A liar lying about another liar n/t
Response to hibbing (Reply #8)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 01:18 PM
iluvtennis (17,851 posts)
26. Yep, ain't that a blip. Fk Bannon. n/t
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:23 AM
cayugafalls (5,282 posts)
9. There's an error in the OP headline, "testify" is spelled incorrectly, it should be "lie"
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Response to cayugafalls (Reply #9)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:29 AM
pandr32 (9,666 posts)
11. It does make much more sense when corrected
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Response to cayugafalls (Reply #9)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:29 AM
TeamProg (3,017 posts)
12. Aaarf !! good one.
Response to cayugafalls (Reply #9)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:44 AM
madashelltoo (1,558 posts)
20. It's officially called
TESTALYING!
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Response to madashelltoo (Reply #20)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 01:20 PM
iluvtennis (17,851 posts)
27. I like that phrase. I'll start using that one. Thanks. n/t
Response to madashelltoo (Reply #20)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 03:46 PM
Rebl2 (9,867 posts)
49. I believe
you have created a new word! Good job!
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Response to cayugafalls (Reply #9)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 12:02 PM
BumRushDaShow (107,908 posts)
21. DUzy!
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:27 AM
COL Mustard (4,538 posts)
10. I. Will. Be. Damned.
Trump voluntarily gave up privilege? I thought it was just a thunderstorm last night. I guess it was really Hell freezing over!!!!
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Response to COL Mustard (Reply #10)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 01:57 PM
GB_RN (1,839 posts)
35. It's Not His To Waive...
Court cases have already said that it's only available for the current office holder. To which Biden subsequently waived it for the documents Dolt45 was claiming privilege over.
But as others have stated, 1) it's too little, too late for Bannon, 2) no one wants to give him the opportunity to act as a Trojan horse, or use it as an attempt to sabotage/weasel out of or otherwise undermine his contempt prosecution (and thus render any future prosecutions meaningless). |
Response to GB_RN (Reply #35)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 02:25 PM
COL Mustard (4,538 posts)
38. I know it's not TFG's privilege to waive
I’m just shocked that he’s even doing this!
I may need my fainting couch! |
Response to COL Mustard (Reply #38)
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Response to GB_RN (Reply #35)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 07:52 PM
agingdem (6,258 posts)
63. right...
Donnie is scared shitless..he needs a spy, a voice, a defender, and he sees Bannon as that guy...his Jim Jordan, caustic, insulting, never-ending screeching toxic blather...and Bannon, pissing his pants and about to go to trial on criminal contempt charges, is suddenly more than willing to hiss, sneer, threaten, accuse, and malign the validity of committee and blow up witness testimony..and do it publicly...WHAT A GUY!!
and I'll wager the committee never ever intended to put Bannon in front of camera...why would they, given Bannon, like Navarro, is neck deep in the coup to overthrow the government of the United States and more than likely facing a federal sedition charge |
Response to COL Mustard (Reply #10)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 02:31 PM
reACTIONary (5,374 posts)
42. I think he guessed Bannon would...
... testify rather than spend time in the slammer, so he did this to make himself look like a good guy.
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:37 AM
Eliot Rosewater (30,048 posts)
14. Absolutely not, he's going to lie make shit up etc.
He needs to testify off camera or on camera but not live because he’s simply going to turn it into a circus, he’s betting that the fascists will get back in to power and he will be at the top.
It would be madness. |
Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #14)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 01:37 PM
FakeNoose (27,731 posts)
32. He would take an oath when he testifies, so if he lies he faces perjury charges
Plus his lawyer Robert Costello just resigned the contempt case that's going to trial, and that really looks bad for Bannon. However I agree with you that Bannon cannot demand a public hearing, none of the other witnesses are getting that. They've all testified in private and the J-6 committee decides what goes public.
(link) https://news.yahoo.com/steve-bannon-lawyer-asks-removed-152059625.html |
Response to FakeNoose (Reply #32)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 02:33 PM
BumRushDaShow (107,908 posts)
44. Forgot his lawyer bailed on him!
And I saw that posted about Friday too!
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:43 AM
RussBLib (6,736 posts)
15. just in time, punk?
Better late than never. Maybe.
snip Bannon, who has pleaded not guilty to his contempt charges, was set to go to trial July 18. Providing testimony would not necessarily absolve him of the criminal contempt charges he faces, so it's unclear how his upcoming trial would be affected if Bannon strikes a deal with the committee to testify. He is set to appear in court for a hearing in his case Monday. |
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:43 AM
BumRushDaShow (107,908 posts)
17. Trying to avoid all but certain conviction and prison time
I expect Navarro may eventually do the same - "comply" and feed the Committee with bullshit.
But in both their cases, they need to do it under oath or go to trial. |
Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #17)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 12:32 PM
stevebreeze (1,869 posts)
23. I remember when Olie North got his ass off for testifing?
This is what Bannon is aiming for.
"A Federal judge dropped all charges today against Oliver L. North, bringing to an abrupt end the five-year prosecution of the former National Security Council aide that was the most celebrated and hotly contested legal battle of the Iran-contra affair. "This terminates the case," Judge Gerhard A. Gesell said at a brief hearing in United States District Court. He ruled after Lawrence E. Walsh, the Iran-contra independent prosecutor, said he would abandon the prosecution of Mr. North, a former Marine Corps lieutenant colonel. Mr. Walsh said prosecutors probably would be unable to show that the trial testimony used to convict Mr. North had not been affected by testimony Mr. North had given to Congress under immunity." https://www.nytimes.com/1991/09/17/us/judge-in-iran-contra-trial-drops-case-against-north-after-prosecutor-gives-up.html |
Response to stevebreeze (Reply #23)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 01:48 PM
Lasher (25,666 posts)
34. Let's hope the J6 committee isn't dumb enough to grant Bannon any sort of immunity.
Surely they are coordinating with the DOJ on this.
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Response to stevebreeze (Reply #23)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 02:15 PM
BumRushDaShow (107,908 posts)
36. Bannon is more a sideshow
vs North and if anyone who might be considered for immunity, is Meadows.
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Response to stevebreeze (Reply #23)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 03:17 PM
Grins (5,845 posts)
45. 33-Years ago last week!
05 July 1989. Got off on one of those technicalities the Reich-wing crowd hates. When it suits them.
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 11:43 AM
regnaD kciN (25,572 posts)
18. Bannon has publicly said...
…that one must lie as much as needed to win, so I’m assuming the J6C takes everything he says with a boulder of salt.
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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #18)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 02:27 PM
COL Mustard (4,538 posts)
40. As long as that boulder of salt
Doesn’t raise their blood pressure!
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 12:15 PM
ashredux (2,203 posts)
22. He will just plead the fifth. His trial is coming up, and he knew he could get up to a year in jail
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 12:44 PM
MOMFUDSKI (1,422 posts)
24. Fuck him AND
his 2 shirts.
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 01:11 PM
getagrip_already (10,196 posts)
25. he will probably insist non committee repugs participate
as well. He would love a maggie and gym show.
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 01:21 PM
Obvious85 (185 posts)
28. NOTHING he says will be honest or true
It will be ALL SPIN, ALL PROPAGANDA, period. A turd cannot change with a squirt of perfume
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 01:27 PM
Joinfortmill (9,996 posts)
29. No! He's an arrogant expounder of intellectual nationalistic bullshit.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/21/16000914/steve-bannon-devils-bargain-josh-green
Inside Steve Bannon’s apocalyptic ideology: “Like [Karl] Rove on an acid trip” He may also be batshit crazy. Here's a sample: (Josh Green) 'The way I initially got into this line of research for the book is I went and said [to Bannon], “Hey, if you’re not a racist and an anti-Semite” — Bannon of course claims not to be — “why is it that you’re so drawn to these fascist nationalist ideologues from the 1930s and 1940s?” People like Julius Evola, who was Mussolini’s ideologist and who Bannon mentioned in a video at this Vatican conference that he spoke to in 2014... (Bannon)...well, I’m a nationalist and I went looking for intellectual underpinnings to support my philosophy. And the most prominent nationalist thinkers were guys like Julius Evola, who, while they had some very ugly beliefs and associations, were doing a lot of the thinking about nationalism... (Josh Green) What attracted Bannon to them was this idea of decline. Guénon’s famous book was called Crisis of the Modern World, and it laid out this view that essentially beginning with the Enlightenment and the rise of modernity and the nation-state system, we in the West lost our connection to the esoteric, to God. And that we were entering a six-thousand-year dark age. I’m trying to think how to explain this without sounding batshit crazy... But either way, the kinds of stories he published at Breitbart are pretty consistent with the idea that the whole world is falling apart, the country is going to hell, these dangerous immigrants and criminals are kinda marauding through our culture, and meanwhile the secular PC liberals are turning a blind eye to it and destroying American identity and so on and so forth. I don’t see it as being necessarily at odds with what any of these crazy thinkers in the books are writing. What’s unsettling to me is the thought that maybe this isn’t just intellectual preening; maybe he believes it.' |
Response to Joinfortmill (Reply #29)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 02:30 PM
COL Mustard (4,538 posts)
41. Yeah, the world is falling apart
Or at least the US is, because of people like Bannon!!!
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 01:27 PM
SouthernDem4ever (2,129 posts)
30. Put him in jail for contempt of congress
so sick of that asshole.
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 01:33 PM
Kid Berwyn (11,078 posts)
31. Why give a NAZI stooge a stage?
“Destroying the administrative state isn’t against the law when the pee-resident does it to protect the disappearing white male power grip will not replace blah blah blah blah.”
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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #31)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 05:34 PM
TeamProg (3,017 posts)
57. He can plead the Fifth, he can perjure himself or he can tell the truth.. Let's find out!
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 01:47 PM
LudwigPastorius (6,094 posts)
33. "Mr. Bannon is willing to, and indeed prefers, to testify at your public hearing."
Good luck sobering him up. |
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 02:18 PM
Tactical Peek (1,128 posts)
37. Bullshit waiver for a bullshit artist from a bullshit ex-president with bullshit for executive power
The recognized privilege of the executive resides with the executive, Joe Biden, not with some has-been, and Biden waived the executive privilege for this months ago. It was reported in the press, so you would think the press would know better than to be reporting this tripe from the former guy now as "waiving" anything - except his tiny little hands in the air beseeching attention and coverage. Fuck this lying "coverage". |
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 02:32 PM
Brainfodder (5,456 posts)
43. I agree, private testimony first before deluxe lying sack plays head games with the public again?
How is that asshole not doing hard time for all the fraud, besides the pardon.
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 03:53 PM
Kablooie (18,030 posts)
50. Self preservation is finally kicking in
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 04:40 PM
JohnSJ (86,973 posts)
51. Hugfington Post reporting he will testify
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 05:12 PM
New Breed Leader (527 posts)
54. Don't trust it
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Response to New Breed Leader (Reply #54)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 05:17 PM
Shanti Shanti Shanti (11,494 posts)
55. Aye, Bannon is a slimy shit weasel, don't believe a word, for entertainment purposes only!
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 05:24 PM
Evolve Dammit (13,547 posts)
56. DO NOT Give this TRAITOR A forum. Really bad idea.
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 05:35 PM
TeamProg (3,017 posts)
58. TFG has got to be shitting Fool's Gold bricks! n/t
Response to TeamProg (Reply #58)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 05:38 PM
Shanti Shanti Shanti (11,494 posts)
59. NYT, " Mr Bannon has been authorized to testify by Mr Trump", hmmmmm
Response to Shanti Shanti Shanti (Reply #59)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 05:42 PM
TeamProg (3,017 posts)
60. No authorization is required. There is no Exec. Priv. for Bannon. He can plead the Fifth, he can
perjure himself or he can tell the truth.
TFG does not know what's going to happen. |
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 05:55 PM
Samrob (3,680 posts)
61. I would start the Hearing by stating:
"You are appearing in response to the subpoena issued .. You are appearing WITHOUT the waiver of executive privilege, which only the current President, Joe Biden can grant and has chosen to not do so. You are appearing under oath with all the judicial privileged afforded all citizens of the United States including the right to avoid self-incrimination."
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 07:23 PM
ultralite001 (885 posts)
62. Prison will be a dangerous incubator for those of Bannon's ilk...
Just saying...
That is all... |
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 08:04 PM
The Wizard (12,033 posts)
64. He's a pathological liar.
Make him testify while attached to a polygraph.
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 08:26 PM
lees1975 (2,325 posts)
65. This is a back door way for him to go in and lie through his teeth in support of the failed ex prez
and to attempt to counter all of the mountain of evidence they've accumulated. First of all, he doesn't have executive privilege to waive so they need to tear up that letter because it is meaningless. Second, if he doesn't testify on their terms, hold him until he does. But he gets no public forum. Ya hear that!
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Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Sun Jul 10, 2022, 08:39 PM
bucolic_frolic (35,396 posts)
66. He'll just try to gaslight them
Response to TeamProg (Original post)
Mon Jul 11, 2022, 05:44 AM
tavernier (11,194 posts)
67. They should make a breathalyzer mandatory
for both Bannon and Rudy.
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