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progree

(10,901 posts)
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:15 PM Jul 2022

Federal investigators say US Bank workers opened fake accounts for sales goals

Source: CBS Minnesota

For more than a decade, US Bank pressured its employees to open fake accounts in their customers' names in order to meet unrealistic sales goals, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau said Thursday, in a case that is deeply similar to the sales practices scandal uncovered at Wells Fargo last decade.

The CFPB alleged that US Bank accessed consumers credit reports to open checking and savings accounts, credit cards and lines of credit without their permission. Employees were encouraged to do so, in order to meet the bank's goals of selling multiple products to each customer with the bank.

The scale of US Banks's fake accounts scandal was not disclosed immediately by the CFPB, but the bank was forced to pay $37.5 million in fines and penalties and will have to refund customers any fees they paid for the fake accounts.

...

A spokesman for US Bank said the bad sales practices were a legacy issue at the bank dating back to 2016, and that the bank has made significant improvements to its sales practices since then. The consent order reached with the CFPB acknowledges that US Bank did make improvements to its sales practices in recent years, which included no longer tying pay to opened accounts and requiring customers' consent to open new services.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/federal-investigators-say-us-bank-workers-opened-fake-accounts-for-sales-goals/



It was a huge story about 6 years ago when Wells Fargo was caught at this. I had not heard of any other bank doing this particular kind of thing, although there have been plenty of bank scandals, Bank Of America comes to mind. And of course all the corruption leading to the liars loans and 2008-9 housing bubble collapse.

Anyway, very disappointing hearing about workplace cultures like this. And they wonder why so many are not in the labor force. I mean, who wants to play corporate games 80 hours a week?

U.S. Bank / U.S. Bancorp is the 5th largest bank in the U.S.

Bow down, peasants!

https://www.bankrate.com/banking/biggest-banks-in-america/


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Federal investigators say US Bank workers opened fake accounts for sales goals (Original Post) progree Jul 2022 OP
maybe that explains the extra "rewards" credit card they sent me.... lastlib Jul 2022 #1
US Bank near my mom's seniors complex wouldn't let her open a checking account. SunSeeker Jul 2022 #2
That's the scam. Xolodno Jul 2022 #13
$37.5 million is nothing to them. Which is probably why they did what another bank already had live love laugh Jul 2022 #3
It's The American Way not fooled Jul 2022 #4
When trump got appointed DENVERPOPS Jul 2022 #6
Sociopaths is correct. LT Barclay Jul 2022 #7
Yes not fooled Jul 2022 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2022 #5
This sounds familiar. I believe something similiar happened around the 2007 crash. C Moon Jul 2022 #8
Was this bank to big to fail ? RANDYWILDMAN Jul 2022 #10
Having run several call centers in several industries melm00se Jul 2022 #11
Book: snakes in suits (nonfiction) cbabe Jul 2022 #12
Kick dalton99a Jul 2022 #14

lastlib

(23,220 posts)
1. maybe that explains the extra "rewards" credit card they sent me....
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:22 PM
Jul 2022

which I neither ordered nor wanted. Nor needed.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
2. US Bank near my mom's seniors complex wouldn't let her open a checking account.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:23 PM
Jul 2022

Her only income was social security and they told her that she didn't meet their income minimum to have a checking account. WTF But they're willing to open fake accounts?!

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
13. That's the scam.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 10:22 PM
Jul 2022

They want you to have a certain level of income and credit score, so they can "sell" to you. Otherwise, they are just servicing your account, which they could still make money on, but that's a small amount compared to the interest they get off of credit cards. I'll stay at my credit union, thank you. I got 40k in there and not once have they ever tried to "sell me".

live love laugh

(13,101 posts)
3. $37.5 million is nothing to them. Which is probably why they did what another bank already had
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:50 PM
Jul 2022

already gotten in trouble for.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
4. It's The American Way
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:52 PM
Jul 2022

Lie, cheat, and steal to make money. And sociopaths--or people close to that end of the scale--call the shots to facilitate this type of culture.

In a just society, those who abuse their fellow humans for greed would be ostracized, not lionized.




DENVERPOPS

(8,814 posts)
6. When trump got appointed
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 12:55 AM
Jul 2022

obviously, many major banks and many corporations/industries thought they could "shoot the moon", and that there was no way Trump would investigate fraudulent conduct or try to enforce any regulations.

Some day, hopefully, most of the total massive fraud will be known that occurred 2016-2020.

Corporations imbedded in, and controlling Government = Fascism....

LT Barclay

(2,596 posts)
7. Sociopaths is correct.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 01:17 AM
Jul 2022

I can't remember the name of the researcher, but (as well as I can remember it) he was studying criminals and wanted another population to study and chose CEOs. Again, if I remember correctly the CEOs scored higher on the sociopathic scale, but had better impulse control than the criminals.
Frightening implications for a society drifting into fascism, but shows the need for regulations.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
9. Yes
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 02:34 AM
Jul 2022

Thom Hartmann has said on his show that the reason CEOs are paid exorbitant amounts is because there is only a small subset of the population that has the requisite skill set = sociopaths with the appropriate business knowledge and social veneer.

Also, there is a professor who studies power and those attracted to it, e.g. politicians. He found that they tend to score high on the sociopathy scale. Sorry, can't remember the guy's name; maybe it's the same researcher you reference. Not surprising--I attended some local government meetings in my area and saw a shocking display of what I could only call sociopathy--callous, sneering indifference towards those opposed to developments the officials wanted to approve (including projects they would directly make money from, i.e. open blatant corruption) and lying and cheating to force through what they wanted. This area is notorious for being particularly corrupt but I'm sure this is par for the course in much of the country. I came away convinced that people who are attracted to those positions benefit from having sociopathic tendencies. We just don't call it out in America.

Response to progree (Original post)

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
8. This sounds familiar. I believe something similiar happened around the 2007 crash.
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 01:48 AM
Jul 2022

That's what happens when we don't have heavy jail time for white collar crimes: it's bound to repeat.
White collar crime needs to have heavy prison and fines.

I'm CMoon, and I approve this message.

melm00se

(4,991 posts)
11. Having run several call centers in several industries
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 08:59 AM
Jul 2022

If you compensate agents for "A" activities...son of a bitch: all you get are "A" activities.

cbabe

(3,541 posts)
12. Book: snakes in suits (nonfiction)
Fri Jul 29, 2022, 01:59 PM
Jul 2022
https://www.goodreads.com › book › show › 132615.Snakes_in_Suits

Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work - Goodreads

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Revised and updated with the latest scientific research and updated case studies, the business classic that offers a revealing look at psychopaths in the workplace—how to spot their destructive behavior and stop them from creating chaos in the modern corporate organization.
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