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Fri Aug 5, 2022, 09:18 AM

China halts climate, military ties over Pelosi Taiwan visit

Source: ABC News

China on Friday said it is canceling or suspending dialogue with the United States on a range of issues from climate change to military relations and anti-drug efforts in retaliation for a visit this week to Taiwan by U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

The measures, which come amid cratering relations between Beijing and Washington, are the latest in a promised series of steps intended to punish the U.S. for allowing the visit to the island it claims as its own territory, to be annexed by force if necessary. China on Thursday launched threatening military exercises in six zones just off Taiwan's coasts that it says will run through Sunday.

Missiles have also been fired over Taiwan, defense officials told state media. China routinely opposes the self-governing island having its own contacts with foreign governments, but its response to the Pelosi visit has been unusually vociferous.

The Foreign Ministry said dialogue between U.S. and Chinese regional commanders and defense department heads would be canceled, along with talks on military maritime safety.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/china-summons-european-diplomats-statement-taiwan-87981101

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Reply China halts climate, military ties over Pelosi Taiwan visit (Original post)
groundloop Aug 5 OP
JohnSJ Aug 5 #1
TeamProg Aug 5 #8
eppur_se_muova Aug 5 #2
RussBLib Aug 5 #3
BootinUp Aug 5 #4
former9thward Saturday #17
MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #18
former9thward Saturday #19
MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #20
karynnj Saturday #21
MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #23
karynnj Saturday #24
MarineCombatEngineer Saturday #25
comradebillyboy Aug 5 #5
TeamProg Aug 5 #11
BeyondGeography Aug 5 #6
PortTack Aug 5 #7
TeamProg Aug 5 #9
TeamProg Aug 5 #10
LudwigPastorius Aug 5 #12
Martin68 Aug 5 #13
3Hotdogs Aug 5 #14
AntiFascist Aug 5 #15
Owl Saturday #22
Slammer Aug 5 #16

Response to groundloop (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 09:20 AM

1. What a bunch of infantile jackasses. I suspect they are blowing this out of proportion because

the Chinese economy is faltering, and are using this as a distraction


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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 11:05 AM

8. That's what I was thinking. Blame the U.S. for their economic troubles. I'd think the pople in China

are getting pretty fed up of all this crap.

The anti-privacy, strict control, re-education camps among other F'd up things has got to be taking a toll on the society.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 09:33 AM

2. Which just proves they were never really commited to them -- just waiting for the first excuse

to back out without "losing face". Oops, doesn't work. China looks like whiny two-year olds. Face count: zero.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 09:48 AM

3. Time to pull back as many manufacturing plants ...

...as possible. The Chinese are not reliable partners, and they steal any IP they can get their hands on. Their labor is cheap and their products are cheap.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 10:02 AM

4. This kind of shit is going boomerang on them

They want to go it alone?

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:16 AM

17. Except they are not alone.

They have allies in most of Asia, Africa and much of S. America.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #17)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:20 AM

18. They may have allies,

but are they willing to come to their aid militarily?

Probably not and they couldn't match the US or it's allies in the region.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #18)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:25 AM

19. The U.S. can not beat China in an Asian war.

They could not beat small countries in Asia like N. Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, or Syria. We lost about 100,000 troops dead in those conflicts and none were a victory. China would destroy the U.S. in an Asian war.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #19)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 08:27 AM

20. Well,

we have a difference of opinion.

BTW, we won every big battle in Vietnam, we withdrew our forces because it lost the support politically and domestically, and I disagree with losing in Korea, we kept the Norks from taking over the South, that is a win IMO.

Let's hope we don't have to find out who's right or wrong.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #20)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 08:44 AM

21. On Vietnam, what you said does mean there was an alternative where we would win

Even McNamara said in FOG OF WAR that he knew in 1968 that we could not win. The war lost support because we lost 68,000 American lives and it was a quagmire. The only way to "win" was to stay there for decades or maybe forever.

Are you seriously blaming the people who argued for ending the war?

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Response to karynnj (Reply #21)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 09:21 AM

23. You completely misinterpreted my post.

I in no way am blaming anyone for our withdrawal from Vietnam, all I pointed out was that we didn't lose any of the big battles fought in VN, but we did lose the will to stay and fight, both politically and domestically, which, IMO, was the right thing to do, we should have never been there in the first place, and this is coming from someone who did 2 tours there.

On the Korean war, we did win as we prevented N. Korea from taking over the South and turning it into a bigger N. Korea and all the tyranny associated with that.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #23)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 02:51 PM

24. I read things that were not there,but I think we are in agreement that we could not

win a conclusive victory unless we were willing to stay there in force winning more battles and losing more lives.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #24)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 03:47 PM

25. Absolutely,

it was a civil war that we had no business being involved in, and the French defeat at Dien Bien Phu in 1954 should have been a warning to us, but we didn't listen and the rest is history.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 10:06 AM

5. Sure glad the CHIPS bill passed.

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 11:10 AM

11. That emblem on the Cowboys' helmets?


It's a RATING.






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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 10:56 AM

6. It's the mother of all hissy fits

Impressive.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #6)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 11:00 AM

7. It sure is....geez

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 11:06 AM

9. China got Hong Kong back, they aren't getting Taiwan. n/t

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 11:08 AM

10. Taiwan makes better products. Xi doesn't like the competition.. He also

wants complete control of the seas and straights around Taiwan.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 12:22 PM

12. Snowflakes

I've got a feeling they're going to make a move on Taiwan, sooner rather than later.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 01:05 PM

13. So China is throwing a hissy fit because Pelosi had the temerity to visit Taiwan. It's just

blackmail designed to isolate Taiwan from the rest of the world to make their conquest of the island easier.

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 03:27 PM

14. Maybe we ought'a have a dialog on

how much of their shit we wanna continue importing.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #14)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 03:32 PM

15. That should really help the economy!

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #14)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 09:13 AM

22. +1

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Response to groundloop (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 09:54 PM

16. china talks

If China is going to stop talks and cooperation over something as minor as a visit by a politician, we were never going to get anything out of "talks and cooperation" anyway.

Because they'd always stop whenever they weren't getting exactly what they wanted.

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