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Tom Yossarian Joad

(19,226 posts)
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 09:06 PM Sep 2022

Putin 'survives assassination attempt when he was targeted in his limo'

Source: Metro (UK)

The Russian president is said to have been targeted when ‘a loud bang sounded from the left front wheel’ before ‘heavy smoke’ billowed out.

According to the anti-Kremlin Telegram channel General SVR, Putin was travelling in the third car of a five-vehicle convoy on an unknown day.

The post read: ‘The first escort car was blocked by an ambulance and the second escort car drove around without stopping because of the sudden obstacle.’

/snip

The Kremlin has since arrested multiple people, including several of Putin’s bodyguards, according to the Telegram channel. /snip

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/15/putins-limousine-hit-by-loud-bang-in-assassination-attempt-17379773/



Not sure on this source but here it is warts and all.
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Putin 'survives assassination attempt when he was targeted in his limo' (Original Post) Tom Yossarian Joad Sep 2022 OP
Ok? irisblue Sep 2022 #1
This is a single-source unconfirmed rumour. General SVR is anonymous and not accountable Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #2
Sounds like they sent the B team, what with no convenient 5th floor window and all. Ford_Prefect Sep 2022 #3
Not "reputable mainstream news websites and blogs", but Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2022 #4
"they believe it has sufficient credence" Or there simply isnt much to report today and they needed cstanleytech Sep 2022 #30
Aww shucks. n/ t iluvtennis Sep 2022 #5
Putin is supposed to have a very loyal group of bodyguards. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #6
They may be loyal I expect those bodyguards don't want their country destroyed Flaleftist Sep 2022 #11
Knowing Putin, he would hire ruthless sociopaths to guard him. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #37
With Trump, American generals are said to have discussed the nuclear strike issue. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #38
In the end bodyguards are people and they can turn against the person they are supposed to guard if cstanleytech Sep 2022 #32
True. Look at the SS under Trump SouthernDem4ever Sep 2022 #35
Exactly, they can be bought or threatened. Irish_Dem Sep 2022 #39
drip... drip... a close call will be very encouraging to others and he's getting more paranoid certainot Sep 2022 #7
Smells funny LudwigPastorius Sep 2022 #8
Thanks for the Snopes link. Tom Yossarian Joad Sep 2022 #9
Saw this early in the morning on a multigraincracker Sep 2022 #10
Reuters has nothing. irisblue Sep 2022 #12
If there was an attempt on his life, I would expect it to be a lot less inept than this! ShazzieB Sep 2022 #13
Here is The Sun prodigitalson Sep 2022 #14
Based on the same unconfirmed Telegram post as the Mirror piece in the OP. nt sl8 Sep 2022 #44
Mmmm having read through this thread underpants Sep 2022 #15
+1 nt JoeOtterbein Sep 2022 #17
plus 1 Tom Yossarian Joad Sep 2022 #18
Well if true I would not be surprised if we hear an accouncement that he is recalling all the troops cstanleytech Sep 2022 #33
I think its still a bit too early in the game for his inner circle to come out from behind cover and artemisia1 Sep 2022 #16
Drama "Queens" maybe? Sounds like a flat tire/blowout. I don't believe anything coming from Russia. live love laugh Sep 2022 #19
They hit fucking pothole, I'm sure. LuvLoogie Sep 2022 #22
After the fender-bump involving Zelensky's car grabbed headlines Grokenstein Sep 2022 #24
This BlueWavePsych Sep 2022 #41
The story has been picked up by many sources, none super reliable Warpy Sep 2022 #20
Very much unconfirmed relayerbob Sep 2022 #21
General SVR is the same source that claimed Putin is in failing health. Eugene Sep 2022 #23
Better luck next time? dchill Sep 2022 #25
If at first you don't succeed... questionseverything Sep 2022 #34
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving guy Heather MC Sep 2022 #26
Snopes says unproven. Here's link uppityperson Sep 2022 #27
False flag. Just like the 1999 apartment bombings. Beautiful Disaster Sep 2022 #28
Trying to make him out to be a victim onetexan Sep 2022 #29
True or not, sure sounds like Hitler's biography. Putin must be extremely paranoid these days. Who Martin68 Sep 2022 #31
Yesterday, life was such an easy game we play... Slammer Sep 2022 #36
The enemy does arrive by limo, not boat. twodogsbarking Sep 2022 #40
A couple of points. Igel Sep 2022 #42
Maybe fix the ending next time, very disappointed. Brainfodder Sep 2022 #43
Careful what you ask for. Xolodno Sep 2022 #45

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,965 posts)
2. This is a single-source unconfirmed rumour. General SVR is anonymous and not accountable
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 09:10 PM
Sep 2022

However, I have read another post or two by svrgeneral (General SVR) that filled things in and accorded well with reality.

An attempt might be true.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,965 posts)
4. Not "reputable mainstream news websites and blogs", but
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 09:17 PM
Sep 2022

... mainstream news like NBC and Newsweek are reporting, though, again, as unverified rumour. So they believe it has sufficient credence they can at least be stenographers.

cstanleytech

(26,244 posts)
30. "they believe it has sufficient credence" Or there simply isnt much to report today and they needed
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 12:42 AM
Sep 2022

to fill it with something.
Mind you I would not be surprised to learn that its true nor would I be surpised if it happens again.
The real question though is how long will it take? After all the longer it takes the more likely whoever does it might also look to take out as many of Putins allies as they can just to be safe.

Irish_Dem

(46,565 posts)
6. Putin is supposed to have a very loyal group of bodyguards.
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 09:26 PM
Sep 2022

Well trained and loyal.

Once Putin's body guards desert him, he is toast.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
11. They may be loyal I expect those bodyguards don't want their country destroyed
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 09:35 PM
Sep 2022

So maybe like the Praetorian Guard if Putin gets too crazy.... he won't even get the chance to order something like a nuclear strike.

Irish_Dem

(46,565 posts)
37. Knowing Putin, he would hire ruthless sociopaths to guard him.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 07:24 AM
Sep 2022

Men who are wired like he is.

Unfortunately these are the kind of people who will sell out for a price.

And are self serving to the point they will run to protect themselves if it gets too hot.

I read that Putin pays his inner ring protective guards top dollar.
And gives them lovely living situations.

This can backfire on Putin. The guards then have a lot of assets to protect if public sentiment
arises against Putin.

But yes if there are any loyal Russians, who are normal and love their country,
they may have some choices to make.

Irish_Dem

(46,565 posts)
38. With Trump, American generals are said to have discussed the nuclear strike issue.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 07:26 AM
Sep 2022

And they had decided they would not follow any unreasonable orders from Trump concerning use of nuclear weapons.

I wonder if the Russian generals feel the same way.

cstanleytech

(26,244 posts)
32. In the end bodyguards are people and they can turn against the person they are supposed to guard if
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 12:44 AM
Sep 2022

given the right motivation.

Irish_Dem

(46,565 posts)
39. Exactly, they can be bought or threatened.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 07:28 AM
Sep 2022

Up thread I mentioned that I had read Putin pays his inner guard top dollar and gives them
huge homes, cars, etc.

This can backfire as now they have more to lose if the tide turns against Putin.
And the people come after them in anger.

If they flip on Putin, they can keep their stuff.

ShazzieB

(16,285 posts)
13. If there was an attempt on his life, I would expect it to be a lot less inept than this!
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 09:40 PM
Sep 2022

If some of his generals are plotting to take him out as the rumors say, I doubt they'd be this sloppy. Those guys are pros, and they know what will happen to them if they try and fail. (Hint: very, VERY bad things.)

I won't believe a word of this unless and until there is corroboration from a trustworthy source.

underpants

(182,632 posts)
15. Mmmm having read through this thread
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 09:51 PM
Sep 2022

I’m going with - this is old Russia. You blow up a bomb as a signal. Let’s not forget that these are Russians so their world domination thing doesn’t hold much weight.

Hell Putin probably set it up himself. They screwed up in Ukraine on a truly epic scale. Hi! Tom.

cstanleytech

(26,244 posts)
33. Well if true I would not be surprised if we hear an accouncement that he is recalling all the troops
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 12:51 AM
Sep 2022

from the Ukraine in order to "help root out those responsible for the bombing".
Especially since the Ukraine did not roll over and surrendor like I am willing to wager he was counting on so with the war not going well he needs an exit strategy and this could be used as such.

artemisia1

(756 posts)
16. I think its still a bit too early in the game for his inner circle to come out from behind cover and
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 09:55 PM
Sep 2022

attempt an assassination. A few more defeats or one more catastrophic one (like the fall of Kherson with tens of thousands of Russian POW's paraded) and perhaps. To be in his circle you have to be a low-life and such don't risk their lives unless not doing so is more dangerous.

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
24. After the fender-bump involving Zelensky's car grabbed headlines
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 10:52 PM
Sep 2022

maybe Pootler wanted some of that attention?

Warpy

(111,169 posts)
20. The story has been picked up by many sources, none super reliable
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 10:18 PM
Sep 2022

Sounds like a big firecracker, not an assassination attempt.

Somebody wants to blow that bastard away, it'll be a whole bunch of guys with Kalashnikovs, survivors of his war.

Eugene

(61,819 posts)
23. General SVR is the same source that claimed Putin is in failing health.
Thu Sep 15, 2022, 10:46 PM
Sep 2022

Reputable news sources don't seem to be touching this.

Some news sites name a Euro News Weekly report, which I can't find on their site.

My current impression: BUNK

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
28. False flag. Just like the 1999 apartment bombings.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 12:19 AM
Sep 2022

He's losing his grip on power and he realizes it. Just as the 1999 bombings helped him attain the presidency a few months later, this is probably him trying to hold onto power.

Martin68

(22,768 posts)
31. True or not, sure sounds like Hitler's biography. Putin must be extremely paranoid these days. Who
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 12:44 AM
Sep 2022

can he trust? Who is out to take his place? Who is trying to kill him? I wouldn't want to be in his shoes right now. He will die by the same dirty methods he lived by.

Slammer

(714 posts)
36. Yesterday, life was such an easy game we play...
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 06:49 AM
Sep 2022

That's what happens when you try to knock off Zelensky in a car "accident" yesterday.

Igel

(35,280 posts)
42. A couple of points.
Fri Sep 16, 2022, 07:08 PM
Sep 2022

1. Casus belli. Any attempt on the vozhd''s life is grounds for oppression of anybody the vozhd' doesn't like.

2. Same day, Zelens'skyi had an accident. This as the Khar'kiv front of the Russia invasion was collapsing.

First thought, "Gee, maybe it was a homocide attempt." Uncharitable, to be sure--accidents happen. Hence the term "accident."

But given my first thought, perhaps others thought, "Gee, claim *our* guy-in-charge was first in line for the homicide attempt."

As for the narrative ... It's ridiculous.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
43. Maybe fix the ending next time, very disappointed.
Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:40 AM
Sep 2022

Probably doesn't play well with most audiences?

Sounds like direct to video without any changes.



When this is over, I am not watching anything made about it.

Xolodno

(6,384 posts)
45. Careful what you ask for.
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 04:19 PM
Sep 2022

He could be replaced by someone even more brutal. When Putin succeeded Yeltsin, the USA thought this mid level KGB Agent who was the mayor of St. Petersberg was going to be a push over. How did that turn out?

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